2019 NBA Draft Prep

[Spud2nique]

I haven’t wanted a prospect so much since Lebron and before that, Shaq as I do Zion.

I get it with that kid but I also still don't get it.

I'm fine with us missing on him. I mean, no one can tell me what his offense is at the next level. Once folks realize he can't shoot ... then what?

He'll absolutely be the loudest rookie next year. He'll obviously make some big-time, highlight plays. I dunno man. I see the sizzle, waiting for the steak.

Another couple guys that can’t shoot but have a huge impact are Giannis and Simmons. Plus Zion nailed a few threes a couple games ago..granted they were up by a lot but the mechanics were smoother than Giannis and Ben.

I think we need the superstar of superstars in Atlanta. Vick has been gone a while, it’s time.

[kg01]

I haven’t wanted a prospect so much since Lebron and before that, Shaq as I do Zion.

I get it with that kid but I also still don't get it.

I'm fine with us missing on him. I mean, no one can tell me what his offense is at the next level. Once folks realize he can't shoot ... then what?

He'll absolutely be the loudest rookie next year. He'll obviously make some big-time, highlight plays. I dunno man. I see the sizzle, waiting for the steak.

Another couple guys that can’t shoot but have a huge impact are Giannis and Simmons. Plus Zion nailed a few threes a couple games ago..granted they were up by a lot but the mechanics were smoother than Giannis and Ben.

I think we need the superstar of superstars in Atlanta. Vick has been gone a while, it’s time.

On both them dudes, I want to know how much better (or worse) their handle was at that stage. That's a large part of their effectiveness without being able to shoot.

And don't we want to move past the whole 'get a superstar, results be d*mned' thing? If'n we win, don't we make the superstar?

[Jamaaliver]

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[Spud2nique]

I get it with that kid but I also still don't get it.

I'm fine with us missing on him. I mean, no one can tell me what his offense is at the next level. Once folks realize he can't shoot ... then what?

He'll absolutely be the loudest rookie next year. He'll obviously make some big-time, highlight plays. I dunno man. I see the sizzle, waiting for the steak.

Another couple guys that can’t shoot but have a huge impact are Giannis and Simmons. Plus Zion nailed a few threes a couple games ago..granted they were up by a lot but the mechanics were smoother than Giannis and Ben.

I think we need the superstar of superstars in Atlanta. Vick has been gone a while, it’s time.

On both them dudes, I want to know how much better (or worse) their handle was at that stage. That's a large part of their effectiveness without being able to shoot.

And don't we want to move past the whole 'get a superstar, results be d*mned' thing? If'n we win, don't we make the superstar?

It’s like the chicken and the egg..get the superstar get the wins or get the wins that bring in the superstar. I love the unselfish ball movement style with Trae, Hurt and possibly a guy like Culver but at some point we need a name and guy like Zion wouldn’t hurt.

[jayu70]

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I think the writer forgot the additional 1st rounder .
A useless Knight alone cost a 1st to dump. Hawks are sending them two useful players.

[kg01]

Another couple guys that can’t shoot but have a huge impact are Giannis and Simmons. Plus Zion nailed a few threes a couple games ago..granted they were up by a lot but the mechanics were smoother than Giannis and Ben.

I think we need the superstar of superstars in Atlanta. Vick has been gone a while, it’s time.

On both them dudes, I want to know how much better (or worse) their handle was at that stage. That's a large part of their effectiveness without being able to shoot.

And don't we want to move past the whole 'get a superstar, results be d*mned' thing? If'n we win, don't we make the superstar?

It’s like the chicken and the egg..get the superstar get the wins or get the wins that bring in the superstar. I love the unselfish ball movement style with Trae, Hurt and possibly a guy like Culver but at some point we need a name and guy like Zion wouldn’t hurt.

But that's the thing. We need a guy that can generate his own offense. Anything less than that and it's a waste.

I'm not confident Williamson can do that at the NBA level.

[Spud2nique]

On both them dudes, I want to know how much better (or worse) their handle was at that stage. That's a large part of their effectiveness without being able to shoot.

And don't we want to move past the whole 'get a superstar, results be d*mned' thing? If'n we win, don't we make the superstar?

It’s like the chicken and the egg..get the superstar get the wins or get the wins that bring in the superstar. I love the unselfish ball movement style with Trae, Hurt and possibly a guy like Culver but at some point we need a name and guy like Zion wouldn’t hurt.

But that's the thing. We need a guy that can generate his own offense. Anything less than that and it's a waste.

I'm not confident Williamson can do that at the NBA level.

I dunno man, from what I’ve seen. Zion is a coast to coast type guy. He will get the defensive board, be able to take it coast to coast for the finish, if that’s inability to create offense I’m not sure what he has to do. He reminds me of Barkley with that aspect of his game.

[kg01]

It’s like the chicken and the egg..get the superstar get the wins or get the wins that bring in the superstar. I love the unselfish ball movement style with Trae, Hurt and possibly a guy like Culver but at some point we need a name and guy like Zion wouldn’t hurt.

But that's the thing. We need a guy that can generate his own offense. Anything less than that and it's a waste.

I'm not confident Williamson can do that at the NBA level.

I dunno man, from what I’ve seen. Zion is a coast to coast type guy. He will get the defensive board, be able to take it coast to coast for the finish, if that’s inability to create offense I’m not sure what he has to do. He reminds me of Barkley with that aspect of his game.

Bazemore can do that too. The problem is no one wins on a steady diet of fastbreaks and dunks. Teams win on the ability to generate offense as needed, despite what the defense is doing. I don't see Williamson as being able to do that at all.

[Jamaaliver]

But that's the thing. We need a guy that can generate his own offense. Anything less than that and it's a waste.

I'm not confident Williamson can do that at the NBA level.

I dunno man, from what I’ve seen. Zion is a coast to coast type guy. He will get the defensive board, be able to take it coast to coast for the finish, if that’s inability to create offense I’m not sure what he has to do. He reminds me of Barkley with that aspect of his game.

I'm with kg on this one. [Zion] seems largely unstoppable in transition. But in a halfcourt offense, I'm not sure what he does well that Collins isn't already providing.

He isn't taking NBA defenders off the dribble the way he does with underwhelming collegiate players. And at his height, his post game will similarly be negated in the pros.

He offers passing and finishing at the rim, but he occupies the same space on the floor as Collins to do it.

I accept he's the #1 prospect, but I have doubts about his role in general and his fit with our team.

...Or he's Blake Griffin 2.0. I still can't figure it out.

[kg01]

But that's the thing. We need a guy that can generate his own offense. Anything less than that and it's a waste.

I'm not confident Williamson can do that at the NBA level.

I dunno man, from what I’ve seen. Zion is a coast to coast type guy. He will get the defensive board, be able to take it coast to coast for the finish, if that’s inability to create offense I’m not sure what he has to do. He reminds me of Barkley with that aspect of his game.

I'm with kg on this one. Blah, blah, blah ...

Be honest, how much did it hurt to say this?

[Jamaaliver]

I'm with kg on this one. Blah, blah, blah ...

Be honest, how much did it hurt to say this?

[King Ken]

Jaxson Hayes has a chance to move into the top 5 of my Hawks draft board. He fits and covers a lot of space on D.

[King Ken]

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I think the writer forgot the additional 1st rounder .
A useless Knight alone cost a 1st to dump. Hawks are sending them two useful players.

Almost all Houston deals suck.

[King Ken]

Zion best value for us is his defensive value.

[EazyRoc]

Zion will have about the same kind of offensive impact as a John Collins. I think he will be better in half court sets than JC. He’s a better ball handler, has a bowling ball body, and uses all his gifts to create looks at the basket. Long term JC may be the more complete out of two as he seems to be showing a very good perimeter shot. Zion will be much more effective in close and will get more FT opportunities.

Like Ken said, the difference maker between them will be defensive capability. Zion has rare two way potential. A guy who can be a 20-25 ppg scorer and also be in the running for DPOY.

We still need to take the BPA and sort out the fit later. If Morant is who we’re left with, I’d even take him.

[atlantabbq99]

Matisse Thybulle - He could be a good pick up for the Hawks as an undrafted free agent and he would be one of the perfect teammates for Trae and Collins. He would just play defense for 20-30 minutes and never ask to touch the ball. Nothing really special about the guy but he has one of the best anticipations and defensive court visions I've seen in a while and he is not a liability at the free throw line. He is one of the top 'glue guys' in college basketball right now. Their is a small chance he makes the league but if he does, he can be another Thabo hopefully without the injury issues.

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[Hazer]

Jaxson Hayes has a chance to move into the top 5 of my Hawks draft board. He fits and covers a lot of space on D.

Pretty cool last name too.

[kg01]

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I think the writer forgot the additional 1st rounder .
A useless Knight alone cost a 1st to dump. Hawks are sending them two useful players.

Almost all Houston deals suck.

Sadly, this is true. I wish we were better trade matches 'cause that'd be a good landing spot for Bazemore. Unfortunately I want no parts of Knight or his contract. And I want no parts of Criss who I've always considered a spectacular bust who apparently has work ethic issues ... #EZPassLane.

[Spud2nique]

I dunno man, from what I’ve seen. Zion is a coast to coast type guy. He will get the defensive board, be able to take it coast to coast for the finish, if that’s inability to create offense I’m not sure what he has to do. He reminds me of Barkley with that aspect of his game.

I'm with kg on this one. Blah, blah, blah ...

Be honest, how much did it hurt to say this?

Besties now huh?

[Spud2nique]

Jaxson Hayes has a chance to move into the top 5 of my Hawks draft board. He fits and covers a lot of space on D.

Outside of his large hands I don’t want him. How can you possibly not like Keldon Johnson but somehow think this guys brings it? Comon Ken DONT make this a jjj Bagley thing lol.