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Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#781 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Aug 8, 2024 4:03 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:I was really hoping for a pre-draft trade between Hawks and Spurs where SAS got #1 and DeAndre Hunter, Hawks would have gotten #4, Keldon Johnson and future draft compensation.

Keldon's contract is for less money and decreases in value every season. We could have traded back, still gotten Risacher, dumped some salary and then gone MLE shopping this summer.

Hunter for Keldon, a 2nd rounder and removal of that 2026 pick swap could be worth the trouble at this point.


Still got Zaccharie Risacher?

What makes you think he would still be available? Come on now, the kid was going first or second overall regardless.



  • Nah, there were numerous reports of teams having Reed Sheppard #1 or #2 on their boards. I believe that's the PG the Spurs wanted most...not Steph Castle.
  • Wizards seemed committed to bringing in Sarr (which is why he only worked out for them).
  • And Rockets were talking about trading down with Portland so the Blazers could grab Donovan Clingan.

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#782 » by jayu70 » Thu Aug 8, 2024 7:11 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:I was really hoping for a pre-draft trade between Hawks and Spurs where SAS got #1 and DeAndre Hunter, Hawks would have gotten #4, Keldon Johnson and future draft compensation.

Keldon's contract is for less money and decreases in value every season. We could have traded back, still gotten Risacher, dumped some salary and then gone MLE shopping this summer.

Hunter for Keldon, a 2nd rounder and removal of that 2026 pick swap could be worth the trouble at this point.


I think Risacher would have gone to the Spurs. He's a Spursy type player. Keldon Johnson has not been good for the Spurs.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#783 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Aug 8, 2024 7:17 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:I was really hoping for a pre-draft trade between Hawks and Spurs where SAS got #1 and DeAndre Hunter, Hawks would have gotten #4, Keldon Johnson and future draft compensation.

Keldon's contract is for less money and decreases in value every season. We could have traded back, still gotten Risacher, dumped some salary and then gone MLE shopping this summer.


I think Russian would have gone to the Spurs. He's a Spursy type player. Keldon Johnson has not been good for the Spurs.



Yeah, there's a decent chance Zacc would have gone #1 if the Spurs had gotten that pick.


But, I have a sneaking suspicion the Spurs wanted to grab Reed Sheppard and Tidjane Salaun with their two picks.
Just from random draft whispers i heard in the days before the draft.


Yeah, Keldon's value is almost completely in his lower/descending contract. And with the extra $10 million off the books (difference in KJ's contract vs DH plus the difference in drafting at #4 instead of #1), we could have gotten Delon Wright, Kyle Anderson for our bench this season.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#784 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Aug 9, 2024 1:25 pm

NBA World wants to see Bogdan on a more competitive roster:

Lakers Land Serbian Sniper And Rim Protector In Mock Trade Deal With Hawks

The Lakers can make a deal that lands them the perfect duo from the Hawks to contend for a title now.

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The Hawks Start To Pivot While Staying In The Playoff Hunt

The Hawks would have accepted Reaves along with picks for Dejounte Murray if the Lakers offered that package, but they wanted a lot back then. If they can compromise and take Reaves in lieu of major draft compensation for two veterans, the Hawks can find themselves in a healthier position going forward. They get rid of two players who are 30+ while adding younger talent that could help them immediately as proven NBA rotational players.

The Hawks won't want to keep Trae Young and tank outright, but they could put the pieces of success around Young starting now and have a core that grows together. With players like Young, Jalen Johnson, and Onyeka Okongwu, Reaves and Hachimura fit that perfectly. Reaves would be a high-IQ combo guard next to Young who is a high-effort team defender, while Hachimura is a versatile forward who can play across the frontcourt and provide competent two-way play.

Reaves averaged 15.9 points, 4.3 rebounds, and 5.5 assists last season while Hachimura averaged 13.6 points and 4.3 rebounds. The players will likely retain value even if the deal doesn't work out, so the Hawks have a chance of profiting more off this trade in the future. Second-round picks in large quantities can come in useful, so getting those picks alongside Reaves for two expiring contracts who are over 30 years old would be a tidy haul for the Hawks.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#785 » by tbhawksfan1 » Fri Aug 9, 2024 5:59 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:NBA World wants to see Bogdan on a more competitive roster:

Lakers Land Serbian Sniper And Rim Protector In Mock Trade Deal With Hawks

The Lakers can make a deal that lands them the perfect duo from the Hawks to contend for a title now.

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The Hawks Start To Pivot While Staying In The Playoff Hunt

The Hawks would have accepted Reaves along with picks for Dejounte Murray if the Lakers offered that package, but they wanted a lot back then. If they can compromise and take Reaves in lieu of major draft compensation for two veterans, the Hawks can find themselves in a healthier position going forward. They get rid of two players who are 30+ while adding younger talent that could help them immediately as proven NBA rotational players.

The Hawks won't want to keep Trae Young and tank outright, but they could put the pieces of success around Young starting now and have a core that grows together. With players like Young, Jalen Johnson, and Onyeka Okongwu, Reaves and Hachimura fit that perfectly. Reaves would be a high-IQ combo guard next to Young who is a high-effort team defender, while Hachimura is a versatile forward who can play across the frontcourt and provide competent two-way play.

Reaves averaged 15.9 points, 4.3 rebounds, and 5.5 assists last season while Hachimura averaged 13.6 points and 4.3 rebounds. The players will likely retain value even if the deal doesn't work out, so the Hawks have a chance of profiting more off this trade in the future. Second-round picks in large quantities can come in useful, so getting those picks alongside Reaves for two expiring contracts who are over 30 years old would be a tidy haul for the Hawks.
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I'm not expecting LJ and AD to remain as healthy next season ass they were last. If that's the case LAL might have to fight to get to the play in. AD played in 76 games. His most ever. Nearly double what he had been averaging the previous 3 seasons

LJ played in 71

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#786 » by jayu70 » Fri Aug 9, 2024 8:58 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:NBA World wants to see Bogdan on a more competitive roster:

Lakers Land Serbian Sniper And Rim Protector In Mock Trade Deal With Hawks

The Lakers can make a deal that lands them the perfect duo from the Hawks to contend for a title now.

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The Hawks Start To Pivot While Staying In The Playoff Hunt

The Hawks would have accepted Reaves along with picks for Dejounte Murray if the Lakers offered that package, but they wanted a lot back then. If they can compromise and take Reaves in lieu of major draft compensation for two veterans, the Hawks can find themselves in a healthier position going forward. They get rid of two players who are 30+ while adding younger talent that could help them immediately as proven NBA rotational players.

The Hawks won't want to keep Trae Young and tank outright, but they could put the pieces of success around Young starting now and have a core that grows together. With players like Young, Jalen Johnson, and Onyeka Okongwu, Reaves and Hachimura fit that perfectly. Reaves would be a high-IQ combo guard next to Young who is a high-effort team defender, while Hachimura is a versatile forward who can play across the frontcourt and provide competent two-way play.

Reaves averaged 15.9 points, 4.3 rebounds, and 5.5 assists last season while Hachimura averaged 13.6 points and 4.3 rebounds. The players will likely retain value even if the deal doesn't work out, so the Hawks have a chance of profiting more off this trade in the future. Second-round picks in large quantities can come in useful, so getting those picks alongside Reaves for two expiring contracts who are over 30 years old would be a tidy haul for the Hawks.
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Nope.
Not helping LAL get better this year when we own their unprotected pick.
Rui is a worse PF version of Hunter.
Reaves I think is overated from playing in LAL ((see Talen Horton-Tucker before him).
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#787 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:14 pm

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#788 » by HMFFL » Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:31 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:I was really hoping for a pre-draft trade between Hawks and Spurs where SAS got #1 and DeAndre Hunter, Hawks would have gotten #4, Keldon Johnson and future draft compensation.

Keldon's contract is for less money and decreases in value every season. We could have traded back, still gotten Risacher, dumped some salary and then gone MLE shopping this summer.

Hunter for Keldon, a 2nd rounder and removal of that 2026 pick swap could be worth the trouble at this point.


Still got Zaccharie Risacher?

What makes you think he would still be available? Come on now, the kid was going first or second overall regardless.



  • Nah, there were numerous reports of teams having Reed Sheppard #1 or #2 on their boards. I believe that's the PG the Spurs wanted most...not Steph Castle.
  • Wizards seemed committed to bringing in Sarr (which is why he only worked out for them).
  • And Rockets were talking about trading down with Portland so the Blazers could grab Donovan Clingan.

There were a ton of different scenarios at play.

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#789 » by jayu70 » Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:25 pm

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If Hawks are just looking to only salary dump Hunter, then sure.
We lose Hunter's size and wing defense. I think we'll see Hunter playing lots of backup PF this season. Not sure Mo and Roddy are ready for full backup minutes.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#790 » by Jkam31 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 1:28 am

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Jakob, Brown, and a first to get Ingram and Hunter is wild probably doesn’t even get ingram alone
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#791 » by HMFFL » Thu Aug 15, 2024 5:03 pm

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If Hawks are just looking to only salary dump Hunter, then sure.
We lose Hunter's size and wing defense. I think we'll see Hunter playing lots of backup PF this season. Not sure Mo and Roddy are ready for full backup minutes.
I believe we'll see Hunters value more this coming season due to that. I just hope he stays healthy.

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#792 » by tbhawksfan1 » Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:21 am

What would yous think about a Kobe B for Filipowski trade?

Need a follow up move to bring in a bench PG. I like the idea of bringing in a young C/PF with some offensive upside

I would also prefer to get Clingan but think there's no path to bringing him in in a trade
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#793 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:07 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:What would yous think about a Kobe B for Filipowski trade?

Need a follow up move to bring in a bench PG. I like the idea of bringing in a young C/PF with some offensive upside

I would also prefer to get Clingan but think there's no path to bringing him in in a trade


Too soon to trade for Kyle Filipowski.

Too soon to walk away from Kobe Bufkin.

But KF as a scoring big man off the bench would be a huge asset for us.



If it's any consolation, I've read that new signee Dom Barlow would have been a first round draft prospect had he come out in this year's draft class.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#794 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:07 pm

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#795 » by tbhawksfan1 » Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:28 am

I want LF to make something happen with Utah. I want Kessler but if LF can't get Kessler despite greatest efforts I would ask about Fili
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#796 » by jayu70 » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:38 am

tbhawksfan1 wrote:I want LF to make something happen with Utah. I want Kessler but if LF can't get Kessler despite greatest efforts I would ask about Fili

What are you willing to offer for Kessler?

Per a Jazz Fan on why Kessler got benched:

"He has not done what the organization has asked, which is to develop as a PnR player. He and his 'team' want him to work on developing his three point shot and the organization has rightly told him that's not his path to NBA success."

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#797 » by tbhawksfan1 » Fri Aug 30, 2024 3:08 pm

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tbhawksfan1 wrote:I want LF to make something happen with Utah. I want Kessler but if LF can't get Kessler despite greatest efforts I would ask about Fili

What are you willing to offer for Kessler?

Per a Jazz Fan on why Kessler got benched:

"He has not done what the organization has asked, which is to develop as a PnR player. He and his 'team' want him to work on developing his three point shot and the organization has rightly told him that's not his path to NBA success."



Was thinking Kobe, but I don't like your second paragraph.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#798 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Sep 2, 2024 7:47 pm

Imagining Every NBA Team's Top 3 Trade Targets

Atlanta Hawks

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Karl-Anthony Towns, F/C, Minnesota Timberwolves

If the Atlanta Hawks plan to keep and build around Trae Young, the franchise should be searching for All-Stars to pair him with given that their next three drafts are controlled by the San Antonio Spurs.

Towns is a strong candidate given his three-point shooting, rebounding and ability to be a secondary offensive hub alongside Young. The 28-year-old averaged 21.8 points, 8.3 rebounds, 3.0 assists and shot 41.6 percent from three last season and could play in big lineups between Jalen Johnson and Clint Capela or serve as a floor-spacing center in a spread-out offense.

Jerami Grant, F, Portland Trail Blazers

If the asking price for Towns is too steep, Grant is a reliable 3-and-D veteran forward who should fit in nicely alongside Young.

The 30-year-old put up 21.0 points and made 40.2 percent of his threes for the Blazers last season and would be fairly interchangeable at forward with Johnson, especially if No. 1 overall pick Zaccharie Risacher can play shooting guard on a full-time basis.

Derrick Jones Jr., F, Los Angeles Clippers


If the season goes south for the Clippers without Paul George, Jones would be an ideal trade deadline target for Atlanta.

The veteran forward is one of the best lob targets in the NBA given his special athleticism and would thrive off passes from Young.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#799 » by tbhawksfan1 » Tue Sep 3, 2024 10:33 am

Jamaaliver wrote:
Imagining Every NBA Team's Top 3 Trade Targets

Atlanta Hawks

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Karl-Anthony Towns, F/C, Minnesota Timberwolves

If the Atlanta Hawks plan to keep and build around Trae Young, the franchise should be searching for All-Stars to pair him with given that their next three drafts are controlled by the San Antonio Spurs.

Towns is a strong candidate given his three-point shooting, rebounding and ability to be a secondary offensive hub alongside Young. The 28-year-old averaged 21.8 points, 8.3 rebounds, 3.0 assists and shot 41.6 percent from three last season and could play in big lineups between Jalen Johnson and Clint Capela or serve as a floor-spacing center in a spread-out offense.

Jerami Grant, F, Portland Trail Blazers

If the asking price for Towns is too steep, Grant is a reliable 3-and-D veteran forward who should fit in nicely alongside Young.

The 30-year-old put up 21.0 points and made 40.2 percent of his threes for the Blazers last season and would be fairly interchangeable at forward with Johnson, especially if No. 1 overall pick Zaccharie Risacher can play shooting guard on a full-time basis.

Derrick Jones Jr., F, Los Angeles Clippers


If the season goes south for the Clippers without Paul George, Jones would be an ideal trade deadline target for Atlanta.

The veteran forward is one of the best lob targets in the NBA given his special athleticism and would thrive off passes from Young.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV 

Post#800 » by jayu70 » Tue Sep 3, 2024 12:44 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
Imagining Every NBA Team's Top 3 Trade Targets

Atlanta Hawks

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Karl-Anthony Towns, F/C, Minnesota Timberwolves

If the Atlanta Hawks plan to keep and build around Trae Young, the franchise should be searching for All-Stars to pair him with given that their next three drafts are controlled by the San Antonio Spurs.

Towns is a strong candidate given his three-point shooting, rebounding and ability to be a secondary offensive hub alongside Young. The 28-year-old averaged 21.8 points, 8.3 rebounds, 3.0 assists and shot 41.6 percent from three last season and could play in big lineups between Jalen Johnson and Clint Capela or serve as a floor-spacing center in a spread-out offense.

Jerami Grant, F, Portland Trail Blazers

If the asking price for Towns is too steep, Grant is a reliable 3-and-D veteran forward who should fit in nicely alongside Young.

The 30-year-old put up 21.0 points and made 40.2 percent of his threes for the Blazers last season and would be fairly interchangeable at forward with Johnson, especially if No. 1 overall pick Zaccharie Risacher can play shooting guard on a full-time basis.

Derrick Jones Jr., F, Los Angeles Clippers


If the season goes south for the Clippers without Paul George, Jones would be an ideal trade deadline target for Atlanta.

The veteran forward is one of the best lob targets in the NBA given his special athleticism and would thrive off passes from Young.
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:lol: .
I saw a Blazer trade for Grant that had Hunter, Bufkin and our 2029 1st as the trade :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:

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