Rip2137 wrote:PandaKidd wrote:They can do whatever they want, but, I would think after locking up the #1 seed and having so much on the line, you would be a little more prudent then going out to a club at 4am the night OF a game AFTER a game.
It was stupid, no matter how many excuses you make.
No one is saying to be a hermit, but use a little common sense.
Common sense says nothing bad is going to happen. That's my point.
Again, this was not the slums they went to. They went to a upscale place meant to handle upscale clientele. If they were at some strip club at 4 am, I would have definitely had a problem with it. If they HADN'T just had a game, I would have a problem with it because that would point to more partying all night. But in this situation, they had just gotten off work about a hour earlier. But just from how they were dressed, they were just simply there to have a couple drinks, probably at the bar. Its not excuse making, its pointing out that this incident happened on a normal, everyday occurrence and in no way should could have been anticipated.
The real world equivalent would be locking up an important client and going to grab a drink at 6PM happy hour with coworkers. No one would bat a eye. So why is THIS stupid but THAT isn't? Just because?
Because certain people can only rationalize events based on their own point of view. You see similar mentalities when people argue that athletes "make too much money" because they rationalize that against them making 40k a year as some replaceable office assistant.
The great irony in all this is that Thabo and Pero weren't involved in a crime, or more specifically not by a "criminal", but rather they were involved in the response by those who are charged with protecting them from crime. So by therefore arguing that there is a supposed likelihood of a crime occurring after midnight you are then defining the act by the police as being criminal.
Secondly, there appears to be scaling issues. When confronted with the facts about the actual likelihood of a crime occurring at particular upscale establishments (CompStat for that entire precinct had a total of 104 felony assaults in 2014, day and night) you're refuted with possible statistics for the entire metropolitan area. That would be akin to arguing that there is a greater chance of being involved in a incidence of theft at a retail establishment in America in the past year (which are open predominately during daylight hours yet numbers around 25 million) than there is being involved in ANY crime in New York City in the last 5 years (250k). It's cherry picking at its finest.