Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3

[Jamaaliver]

I’m working on a three team deal where Beal goes to Boston

What picks would Atlanta add to a Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown and Romeo Langford for Evan Turner and Chandler Parsons swap?

This is intriguing -- giving up little to no value for multiple wing players that could fit very well on our roster. But as the others have indicated, we have placed a premium on cap space. Taking on the last 2 years of Gordon's deal and getting Jaylen just in time to give him a huge pay increase makes this an unattractive direction for our team to go in.

But it's not a terrible deal. Just one that is counter to where we currently are headed.

[Jamaaliver]

I'd have to at least consider this...I'd probably be more likely to favor a move like this if Beal was to agree on a contract extension immediately.

Star Trade Ideas as 2019-20 NBA Season Nears

Bradley Beal Pushes Hawks into Playoffs



Hawks Receive: SG Bradley Beal

Wizards Receive: SF Cam Reddish, SG Kevin Huerter, 2020 1st-round pick (lottery-protected, via Brooklyn Nets)

The Hawks and Wizards are two Eastern Conference lottery teams heading in different directions.

While Atlanta could be a sneaky playoff team this season powered by Trae Young and John Collins, the Wizards could be among the NBA's worst while John Wall sits out the season with a ruptured Achilles.

Washington needs to trade Beal now with two years left on his deal to maximize his value. While contenders like the Denver Nuggets and New Orleans Pelicans can make significant offers, the Hawks feature plenty of young talent and draft picks to dangle as well.

Beal, 26, and Young, 21, could form one of the league's most exciting backcourts for years to come. Add in Collins (19.5 points, 9.8 rebounds), Jabari Parker (14.5 points, 6.6 rebounds) and No. 4 overall pick De'Andre Hunter (15.2 points, 5.1 rebounds, 43.8 percent three-point shooting as a Virginia sophomore) and this core should be at the top of the East soon.

For the Wizards, Reddish and Huerter give them the future of the franchise at both small forward and shooting guard, and picking up an extra first-round pick only adds to the rebuild.

Reddish, 20, could thrive as a top offensive option for the Wizards, something he never got a chance to do while sharing the court with Zion Williamson and RJ Barrett at Duke. He has ideal size (6'8", 218 lbs) and athleticism for an NBA wing.

Huerter, 21, started 59 games for Atlanta as a rookie, averaging 9.7 points, 3.3 rebounds and 2.9 assists while drilling 38.5 percent of his threes. At 6'7", he's far from just a catch-and-shoot guard, able to bring the ball up the floor and get others involved.

The Hawks make the leap from playoff hopefuls to postseason locks, while the Wizards pick up three key rebuilding pieces.

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[King Ken]

I have zero interest in that move. Beal isn't a game changer. I rather keep Reddish who could end up being better and Kevin who end up being pretty good. I'll rather cash in chips like John and picks for someone like Giannis who actually can help us win a title.

We shouldn't be nowhere near the Beal trade talks unless as a 3rd team. Teams like San Antonio and Denver should be in those talks. One very good piece away teams.

Teams like us should only cash in for game changers.

[kg01]

I’m working on a three team deal where Beal goes to Boston

What picks would Atlanta add to a Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown and Romeo Langford for Evan Turner and Chandler Parsons swap?

This is intriguing -- giving up little to no value for multiple wing players that could fit very well on our roster. But as the others have indicated, we have placed a premium on cap space. Taking on the last 2 years of Gordon's deal and getting Jaylen just in time to give him a huge pay increase makes this an unattractive direction for our team to go in.

But it's not a terrible deal. Just one that is counter to where we currently are headed.

@cleo-liver, I feel like we haven't disagreed as often as we should so I'll weigh in ...

The fact that Brown is up for his first pay day, and is apparently seeking more than the Seeees are willing to pay, makes it a terrible deal.

That said, keep tossing these out, NYG. You usually come up with some well-crafted deals that are interesting to read.

[kg01]

I have zero interest in that move. Beal isn't a game changer. I rather keep Reddish who could end up being better and Kevin who end up being pretty good. I'll rather cash in chips like John and picks for someone like Giannis who actually can help us win a title.

We shouldn't be nowhere near the Beal trade talks unless as a 3rd team. Teams like San Antonio and Denver should be in those talks. One very good piece away teams.

Teams like us should only cash in for game changers.

Yup. Plus, you could make an argument that Heurt could end up in the same stratosphere as Beal by himself.

[King Ken]

I have zero interest in that move. Beal isn't a game changer. I rather keep Reddish who could end up being better and Kevin who end up being pretty good. I'll rather cash in chips like John and picks for someone like Giannis who actually can help us win a title.

We shouldn't be nowhere near the Beal trade talks unless as a 3rd team. Teams like San Antonio and Denver should be in those talks. One very good piece away teams.

Teams like us should only cash in for game changers.

Yup. Plus, you could make an argument that Heurt could end up in the same stratosphere as Beal by himself.

While I am not of that mind, Kevin could become very good and to trade two players who could get to Beals level or better sooner than later and a 1st round pick reminds me too much of the Amare for Al Horford and Josh Smith with a 1st offer we passed on from PHX during the draft where we had the 3rd overall pick.

Brainless thinking would have set the Hawks back ten years if they made that trade.

[King Ken]

I’m working on a three team deal where Beal goes to Boston

What picks would Atlanta add to a Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown and Romeo Langford for Evan Turner and Chandler Parsons swap?

This is intriguing -- giving up little to no value for multiple wing players that could fit very well on our roster. But as the others have indicated, we have placed a premium on cap space. Taking on the last 2 years of Gordon's deal and getting Jaylen just in time to give him a huge pay increase makes this an unattractive direction for our team to go in.

But it's not a terrible deal. Just one that is counter to where we currently are headed.

@cleo-liver, I feel like we haven't disagreed as often as we should so I'll weigh in ...

The fact that Brown is up for his first pay day, and is apparently seeking more than the Seeees are willing to pay, makes it a terrible deal.

That said, keep tossing these out, NYG. You usually come up with some well-crafted deals that are interesting to read.

His stuff is far better than the average trash I see on this site. That said, it's all about where the teams are going and what they want.


NYG, what the Hawks want is a short term starting level center without trading ANY of it's young pieces. That player can have a longer contract as well.

Reqs:
Defensive minded
Size of a center
Good communication skills on the court
Good at setting screens
Can play at a fast pace
Can defend in space and protect John Collins.
Shows potential to shoot the three

Assets we would offer: expiring contracts and draft assets.

Targeted players for example:
Adams
Ibaka
Turner

[Spud2nique]

Shhhhit I wouldn’t do Huerter for Beal straight up right now. Doing that would be pulling an Ainge. We don’t want it. Plus, MCCollum is a better player than Beal anyways.

[NYG]

I’m working on a three team deal where Beal goes to Boston

What picks would Atlanta add to a Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown and Romeo Langford for Evan Turner and Chandler Parsons swap?

This is intriguing -- giving up little to no value for multiple wing players that could fit very well on our roster. But as the others have indicated, we have placed a premium on cap space. Taking on the last 2 years of Gordon's deal and getting Jaylen just in time to give him a huge pay increase makes this an unattractive direction for our team to go in.

But it's not a terrible deal. Just one that is counter to where we currently are headed.

@cleo-liver, I feel like we haven't disagreed as often as we should so I'll weigh in ...

The fact that Brown is up for his first pay day, and is apparently seeking more than the Seeees are willing to pay, makes it a terrible deal.

That said, keep tossing these out, NYG. You usually come up with some well-crafted deals that are interesting to read.

Hey as a Knicks fan, I can see them adding assets if they’re just awful. Would the Hawks make any sense for Julius Randle?

[jayu70]

This is intriguing -- giving up little to no value for multiple wing players that could fit very well on our roster. But as the others have indicated, we have placed a premium on cap space. Taking on the last 2 years of Gordon's deal and getting Jaylen just in time to give him a huge pay increase makes this an unattractive direction for our team to go in.

But it's not a terrible deal. Just one that is counter to where we currently are headed.

@cleo-liver, I feel like we haven't disagreed as often as we should so I'll weigh in ...

The fact that Brown is up for his first pay day, and is apparently seeking more than the Seeees are willing to pay, makes it a terrible deal.

That said, keep tossing these out, NYG. You usually come up with some well-crafted deals that are interesting to read.

Hey as a Knicks fan, I can see them adding assets if they’re just awful. Would the Hawks make any sense for Julius Randle?

To come off the bench behind John Collins at $20 mil per? I don't think so. Hawks are in need of a Center more than amything.
Hawks have 'Randle light' in Jabari Parker for $6mil off the bench.

[dms269]

This is intriguing -- giving up little to no value for multiple wing players that could fit very well on our roster. But as the others have indicated, we have placed a premium on cap space. Taking on the last 2 years of Gordon's deal and getting Jaylen just in time to give him a huge pay increase makes this an unattractive direction for our team to go in.

But it's not a terrible deal. Just one that is counter to where we currently are headed.

@cleo-liver, I feel like we haven't disagreed as often as we should so I'll weigh in ...

The fact that Brown is up for his first pay day, and is apparently seeking more than the Seeees are willing to pay, makes it a terrible deal.

That said, keep tossing these out, NYG. You usually come up with some well-crafted deals that are interesting to read.

Hey as a Knicks fan, I can see them adding assets if they’re just awful. Would the Hawks make any sense for Julius Randle?

Randle is a liability on defense at the 5 and with JC already at the 4 you need someone who is solid there instead of being played out of position.

And that isn't even mentioning his contract.

[jayu70]

Posted a thread on T&T board looking for a Center:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1897464

Thoughts?

[DS5]

Three way deal between ATL, OKC and MIA.

ATL in: Adams, Dragic
ATL out: Turner, Parsons, BRK pick, OKC pick

OKC in: Parsons, Turner, J. Johnson, Olynyk, BRK pick, OKC's own pick '21, MIA future 2nd
OKC out: CP3, Adams

MIA in: CP3
MIA out: Dragic, J. Johnson, Olynyk, future 2nd

Hawks make a push for the playoffs this year and doesn't hinder our cap space plans, since FAcy in '20 is not great, might as well punt to '21 with Adams' 2 years left in his contract. OKC gets some expirings, gets out of CP3's deal and picks up a couple of firsts and a 2nd. Miami takes on CP3's contract to pair with Butler w/o giving up much.

[kg01]

Three way deal between ATL, OKC and MIA.

ATL in: Adams, Dragic
ATL out: Turner, Parsons, BRK pick, OKC pick

OKC in: Parsons, Turner, J. Johnson, Olynyk, BRK pick, OKC's own pick '21, MIA future 2nd
OKC out: CP3, Adams

MIA in: CP3
MIA out: Dragic, J. Johnson, Olynyk, future 2nd

Hawks make a push for the playoffs this year and doesn't hinder our cap space plans, since FAcy in '20 is not great, might as well punt to '21 with Adams' 2 years left in his contract. OKC gets some expirings, gets out of CP3's deal and picks up a couple of firsts and a 2nd. Miami takes on CP3's contract to pair with Butler w/o giving up much.

That's actually interesting. I'd try to move Dragic as well though.

[Jamaaliver]

So glad we dumped Taurean before this became an issue for our team:

"If it don't get done...then me and my team will look somewhere else...probably another home," said Hield following the Kings preseason win over Melbourne United.

Hield added that he wants to feel respected as part of the core of the team.

“I love Sacramento, but if they don’t want me here and they don’t feel like I’m part of the core... I like respect and loyalty and I feel like I’m part of the group that’s getting the team back to where it needs to be... but if they don’t want me here, I’ll find somewhere else," according to video taken from the locker room.

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[kg01]

So glad we dumped Taurean before this became an issue for our team:

"If it don't get done...then me and my team will look somewhere else...probably another home," said Hield following the Kings preseason win over Melbourne United.

Hield added that he wants to feel respected as part of the core of the team.

“I love Sacramento, but if they don’t want me here and they don’t feel like I’m part of the core... I like respect and loyalty and I feel like I’m part of the group that’s getting the team back to where it needs to be... but if they don’t want me here, I’ll find somewhere else," according to video taken from the locker room.

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First, I'm not sure Printz has any leg to stand on to make any demands like Hield is here.

Second, things are getting out of hand when dudes like Buddy freaking Hield are making threats like this. If I were SAC, I'd call his bluff.

Dude's pretty good, but he ain't that good. Imminently replaceable.

Am I off on that?

[DS5]

That's actually interesting. I'd try to move Dragic as well though.

We still need a B/U PG, plus on this deal ET is gone too.

[Jamaaliver]

First, I'm not sure Printz has any leg to stand on to make any demands like Hield is here.

Second, things are getting out of hand when dudes like Buddy freaking Hield are making threats like this. If I were SAC, I'd call his bluff.

Dude's pretty good, but he ain't that good. Imminently replaceable.

Am I off on that?

I see Hield as a fringe-All Star a la Khris Middleton. Isn't good enough to be a lead dog, but can swing a playoff series in your direction playing next to a top player.

I think Milwaukee would have been a good place for him had that team not overspent on Khris and Eric Bledsoe.

That 2016 summer of massive overpay I think still lingers in a lot of guys minds.

A lot of cats thinking: "If Kent Bazemore can get $17+ million per season as a below-average backup player...I should be able to get waaaaaay more than that as an above average starter."

"If THJ can get $18 million per year as a sub-par starter...I can get waaaaaay more than that."

"If Malcolm Brogdon can get $21+ million per year as an over-achieving sixth man...I should be getting waaaaaay more than that."



NOTE: If Taurean was still here, entrenched as a starter and not making progress on a long term deal, I do think he would start rumbling a bit for some type of commitment. Perhaps not as abrasively.

[NYG]

@cleo-liver, I feel like we haven't disagreed as often as we should so I'll weigh in ...

The fact that Brown is up for his first pay day, and is apparently seeking more than the Seeees are willing to pay, makes it a terrible deal.

That said, keep tossing these out, NYG. You usually come up with some well-crafted deals that are interesting to read.

Hey as a Knicks fan, I can see them adding assets if they’re just awful. Would the Hawks make any sense for Julius Randle?

Randle is a liability on defense at the 5 and with JC already at the 4 you need someone who is solid there instead of being played out of position.

And that isn't even mentioning his contract.

Taj Gibson is pretty gritty defensively, would you trade that OKC 1st (essentially 2 seconds) in a Taj Gibson and Elfrid Payton for Evan Turner?

[King Ken]

Hey as a Knicks fan, I can see them adding assets if they’re just awful. Would the Hawks make any sense for Julius Randle?

Randle is a liability on defense at the 5 and with JC already at the 4 you need someone who is solid there instead of being played out of position.

And that isn't even mentioning his contract.

Taj Gibson is pretty gritty defensively, would you trade that OKC 1st (essentially 2 seconds) in a Taj Gibson and Elfrid Payton for Evan Turner?

He is not a real center. You must remember, we are looking for a center to play next to undersized John Collins and cover for him. He has to have a legit NBA center size. While I don't want him, what about Mitchell Robinson and his price tag? He isn't the center we have in mind but I am just curious to see how much you value him?