Welcome to ATL Cam Reddish!

[graymule]

Until the Hawks find players who are much better on defense, Cam stays.
His offense will come around.

[jayu70]

I've been the most critical voice of Cam's play since the season started, and even I'm not ready to demote him out of the NBA...yet.

His being pushed into a starting role this early was clearly a mistake. He'd be better off just coming off the bench for 10-15 minutes a night early on. Getting reps in the gym, playing alongside Trae and Collins in limited run...and with a specific role in mind:

defend and hit open threes.

Starting him at SG, seeing him struggle, then starting him at PG on national TV...was ill-advised. Pushing him to the G-League directly following this underwhelming week seems like it could short circuit his confidence.

Put him on the bench, let him back up Hunter and Huerter for a few minutes each night. If we haven't seen enough growth by the end of November, quietly send him to College Park where he can work on his decision making, shooting, slashing, finishing in a lower profile setting.

I think his defense has been the reason why Pierce felt comfortable in starting him with Huerter out. And i think the plan was for him to defend and hit his open 3s, which he's had a lot of.

[Jamaaliver]

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[jayu70]

At what point do you send Cam down to the G league? I would say do it now. I mean, shouldn't this guy at least have to prove he can play competent basketball on some level higher than high school before we hand the keys over to him?

I say send him down for the year, let him be the feature guy on the G league team. Make him earn his spot on the main club.

Or is he better off riding the bench on the main team but benefiting from being around the vets and also practicing?

I think I read where like 60% of the league has g-league experience now. It's certainly not the stigma that it used to be.

The question becomes, do they think he'll develop there or does CLP want to keep his hands/eyes on him full-time?

It seems like CLP is high on him so perhaps he wants to have full access to him?

I wouldn't mind seeing him go down. It can't hurt. However, I tend to trust CLP's plan. Seemed to work for Trae, and Heurter, when they struggled early.

Will Huerter be back in starting lineup by next game? He's up to 25 mpg.

[kg01]

@Cleo-liver questioning the coach. Wake me if you've heard this one before.

Just kidding, just kidding, don't yell at me again. I generally agree with you but it shouldn't be ignored that Reddish has helped us mightily on the defensive end. And it's quite likely he was inserted into the lineup with a clear role. Give him time.

[CP War Hawks]

He needs to go down to CP to run the team and hopefully gain some real confidence. His leg strength reminds of Kobe saying he needed to workout after his airballs cause his lower body was not strong enough.

[Jamaaliver]

Amid scoring struggle, rookie Cam Reddish works on making his shot



When the Hawks were playing Oct. 29 in Miami, Lloyd Pierce had a conversation with Cam Reddish at the end of the third quarter.

Reddish had just turned the ball over on the last possession, and missed a pull-up jumper and 3-pointer in the final two minutes. With no Trae Young, the Hawks trailed by 18.

“He got flustered,” Pierce said. “And I just said, ‘This is why we have to work. This is why we have to.’ And I thought me barking at him a little bit, but also reminding him this is why he needs to work, not in that game, but now (in practice), the very next play he comes out, he rips it baseline and he dunks it. It was an aggressive play, but it was a mindset.”

That play by Reddish is just one small example of how talented the barely-20-year-old rookie out of Duke is.

But his shot, in the small sample size of five NBA games, hasn’t been falling yet, shooting 20.9 percent from the field (making an average of 1.8 shots per game, taking 8.6) and shooting 5.6 percent from 3-point range (taking an average of 3.6 per game, with his first career 3-pointer coming in Thursday’s loss to the Heat).

As far as development, Reddish has looked ahead-of-schedule on defense and has rebounded the ball well (4.6 per game). He started at point guard in Thursday’s loss and tallied four assists, and has shown himself to be a heads-up passer at times.

The biggest areas of improvement for Reddish, per Pierce, is to stay shot-ready and balanced, control the tempo so as to not let defenses speed him up and attack the rim when his outside shot won’t go (for example, DeAndre’ Bembry has only taken five 3’s all season, making one, but goes into “attack mode,” as Pierce calls it, and is 59 percent from the field).

“The focus is really just to play with pace, to play through contact and to be shot-ready,” Pierce said. “I think those are the areas of focus for him on the perimeter. Having his body and his hands ready to shoot. Sometimes, he’s such an upright player that he’s got to get to his shot. He should already be ready for his shot. With the basketball, we want all our guys to attack it downhill, that’s how we’ll create more shots and 3’s for other guys.”

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[HMFFL]

He must take one game at a time. Focus on the little things and some how gain more confidence.

He would possibly say it's not confidence issues but that seems to be what the majority believe it to be. I'm staying positive.

Amid scoring struggle, rookie Cam Reddish works on making his shot



When the Hawks were playing Oct. 29 in Miami, Lloyd Pierce had a conversation with Cam Reddish at the end of the third quarter.

Reddish had just turned the ball over on the last possession, and missed a pull-up jumper and 3-pointer in the final two minutes. With no Trae Young, the Hawks trailed by 18.

“He got flustered,” Pierce said. “And I just said, ‘This is why we have to work. This is why we have to.’ And I thought me barking at him a little bit, but also reminding him this is why he needs to work, not in that game, but now (in practice), the very next play he comes out, he rips it baseline and he dunks it. It was an aggressive play, but it was a mindset.”

That play by Reddish is just one small example of how talented the barely-20-year-old rookie out of Duke is.

But his shot, in the small sample size of five NBA games, hasn’t been falling yet, shooting 20.9 percent from the field (making an average of 1.8 shots per game, taking 8.6) and shooting 5.6 percent from 3-point range (taking an average of 3.6 per game, with his first career 3-pointer coming in Thursday’s loss to the Heat).

As far as development, Reddish has looked ahead-of-schedule on defense and has rebounded the ball well (4.6 per game). He started at point guard in Thursday’s loss and tallied four assists, and has shown himself to be a heads-up passer at times.

The biggest areas of improvement for Reddish, per Pierce, is to stay shot-ready and balanced, control the tempo so as to not let defenses speed him up and attack the rim when his outside shot won’t go (for example, DeAndre’ Bembry has only taken five 3’s all season, making one, but goes into “attack mode,” as Pierce calls it, and is 59 percent from the field).

“The focus is really just to play with pace, to play through contact and to be shot-ready,” Pierce said. “I think those are the areas of focus for him on the perimeter. Having his body and his hands ready to shoot. Sometimes, he’s such an upright player that he’s got to get to his shot. He should already be ready for his shot. With the basketball, we want all our guys to attack it downhill, that’s how we’ll create more shots and 3’s for other guys.”

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[Jamaaliver]

Hawks Assistant Coach gets so upset when talking to Reddish...that he slams a chair?

Geeezzzzzz

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[Jamaaliver]

At what point do you send Cam down to the G league? I would say do it now.

He needs to go down to CP to run the team and hopefully gain some real confidence

I'm getting closer and closer to agreeing with you guys...

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[jayu70]

If Cam was the only awful player in this game, I could see the point......but the entire team STUNK!

[King Ken]

If Cam was the only awful player in this game, I could see the point......but the entire team STUNK!

In a game where everyone was awful, JL continues to single out Cam. Interesting. From what I saw, Hunter, Trae and Kevin was terrible as well. Especially Trae

[kg01]

If Cam was the only awful player in this game, I could see the point......but the entire team STUNK!

In a game where everyone was awful, JL continues to single out Cam. Interesting. From what I saw, Hunter, Trae and Kevin was terrible as well. Especially Trae

This was a team loss. No one played well. Pointing out any one guy's +/- is agenda-ing imho

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Brad misquoted a very salient point in his tweet. CLP says Cam is worrying about "beating" guys with moves. And went on to say defenders are taught what to do when the ballhandler tries a "move". Wants him to simplify his attack.

Saying he's worried about "being guys with moves" suggests Cam is trying to be pretty or stte, which is a different problem imho.

Get it right, Brad.

[Jamaaliver]

If Cam was the only awful player in this game, I could see the point......but the entire team STUNK!

In a game where everyone was awful, JL continues to single out Cam. Interesting. From what I saw, Hunter, Trae and Kevin was terrible as well. Especially Trae

This was a team loss. No one played well. Pointing out any one guy's +/- is agenda-ing imho

Fair criticisms. But Cam's rough start as a whole plays into the calculus beyond just one game.

And I don't see things getting any easier for him offensively with J Collins out and Parker no longer coming off the bench.

(I never thought I'd say this, but I kinda wish Bazemore was still around as a veteran, stabilizing force at SG.)

[King Ken]

In a game where everyone was awful, JL continues to single out Cam. Interesting. From what I saw, Hunter, Trae and Kevin was terrible as well. Especially Trae

This was a team loss. No one played well. Pointing out any one guy's +/- is agenda-ing imho

Fair criticisms. But Cam's rough start as a whole plays into the calculus beyond just one game.

And I don't see things getting any easier for him offensively with J Collins out and Parker no longer coming off the bench.

(I never thought I'd say this, but I kinda wish Bazemore was still around as a veteran, stabilizing force at SG.)

For our system, Bazemore wasn't stabilizing but for one month in December last year. This is the good and the bad of Reddish.

Right now in general he is a 5 on offense and a 8.5 on defense. That's an overall total of 6.75 and since many people weigh offense 80 to 70% over defense, to them Cam will be trash.

For me, I am fine with it. When Trae was a 6.5 and a 5 in November last year, he eventually adjusted and got to a 9.5 on offense and a 5.5 on D.

For me, I want Cam to finish at a 6 on offense and a 9.5 on defense. That will take a lot of work as it did for Trae.

For me, the bigger disappointment is Kevin. He's been a consistent 7 and 6 when he finished last year a 8 and 6. We need to see more progress especially since he is getting better looks v. Worse players this year. He just looks a step slower and less dynamic. Add to the fact that he is bricking a lot of open shots which he didn't do much last year.

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Brad misquoted a very salient point in his tweet. CLP says Cam is worrying about "beating" guys with moves. And went on to say defenders are taught what to do when the ballhandler tries a "move". Wants him to simplify his attack.

Saying he's worried about "being guys with moves" suggests Cam is trying to be pretty or stte, which is a different problem imho.

Get it right, Brad.

Very true. Heard the exact words and context from Pierce's post game presser.

[Jamaaliver]

This is the good and the best of Reddish.
Right now in general he is a 5 on offense and a 8.5 on defense. That's an overall total of 6.75 and since many people weigh offense 80 to 70% over defense, to them Cam will be trash.

[King Ken]

This is the good and the best of Reddish.
Right now in general he is a 5 on offense and a 8.5 on defense. That's an overall total of 6.75 and since many people weigh offense 80 to 70% over defense, to them Cam will be trash.

The good and bad. not good and best, lol!

Just facts right now. Cam offensively is extremely raw like a straight from HS kid. His defense is exceptional though. He protected Trae at least 11 times tonight on Trae blown assignments