Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV

[Jamaaliver]

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[Jamaaliver]

Avdija's been benched in Portland...I'd be all over adding him to this roster.

[tbhawksfan1]

Avdija's been benched in Portland...I'd be all over adding him to this roster.

Does the money work? Hunter makes $6M more. Hunter and Deni are similar level now. Avi has more upside and much better availability. Love to get him on the team

[Jamaaliver]

Does the money work? Hunter makes $6M more. Hunter and Deni are similar level now. Deni has more upside and much better availability. Love to get him on the team

According to the trade checker, that is a valid and viable trade option.

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[jayu70]

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I'd gladly trade them Zeller for a 1st

[HMFFL]

Avdija's been benched in Portland...I'd be all over adding him to this roster.

Does the money work? Hunter makes $6M more. Hunter and Deni are similar level now. Avi has more upside and much better availability. Love to get him on the team

Deni Avdija is better? I will take DH all day.

However, I have always wanted Deni Avdija, but his game is questionable, and he's not the shooter he's been advertised to be. Maybe we can change that with consistent minutes.

I love his contract:
24/25 $15,625,000
25/26 $14,375,000
26/27 $13,125,000
27/28 $11,875,000


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[King Ken]

Avdija's been benched in Portland...I'd be all over adding him to this roster.

This trade works but it puts PTL way over the LT.
Dre for Deni works but also puts Portland over the LT.
Deni is someone they really value and Dre contract and injury history....
They aren't touching this.

[King Ken]

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Isiah is coming back soon and they somehow are still winning games with a 6'5 guard playing center. They aren't the team that could consider trading a 1st for a center. I think Indy may. While Atlanta isn't touching Okongwu for Obi Toppin and a lottery protected 1st right now, they may by Dec 15th.

[King Ken]

Kessler and Claxton are my top guys who I am okay with moving a 1st.
Secondary guys are Ayton and Robert Williams if he can prove he's healthy for a 2nd.

Either way, we gotta upgrade the 5. Capela is washed more so than the previous years. OO just will never be a starter. He's a high-end backup center at best. Matchup dependent as ever. Nance Jr. has been a good quality backup 5 so we got 3 of them and no starters. We gotta fix that.

No one is going to touch Hunter's contract.

Also, I would like to look into OO for Obi Toppin. We need scoring and shooting off the bench badly. Even though he's far more costly, I would also like to look into trading CC for Kuzma. The Kuzma trade would probably be expensive since they will likely want a pick and no way we are trading a 1st for Kuzma.

How about Ayton for Hunter, Capela and the lower (least favorable) of the Lakers and Kings picks?

Ayton isn't worth a 1st of any sort. He's playing worse right now than Capela. Why would we do that?

[King Ken]

Kessler and Claxton are my top guys who I am okay with moving a 1st.
Secondary guys are Ayton and Robert Williams if he can prove he's healthy for a 2nd.

Either way, we gotta upgrade the 5. Capela is washed more so than the previous years. OO just will never be a starter. He's a high-end backup center at best. Matchup dependent as ever. Nance Jr. has been a good quality backup 5 so we got 3 of them and no starters. We gotta fix that.

No one is going to touch Hunter's contract.

Also, I would like to look into OO for Obi Toppin. We need scoring and shooting off the bench badly. Even though he's far more costly, I would also like to look into trading CC for Kuzma. The Kuzma trade would probably be expensive since they will likely want a pick and no way we are trading a 1st for Kuzma.

Sacramento would especially in a package for Nance to back up Sabonis. Huerter/Lyles and cap fillies works would depend on what picks Atlanta wants I think we’d give up a first if Hunter can come back and start playing soon

There is no interest in trading anyone on our roster to attach a 1st with. No one. The 1st is way too valuable to us. Even if we had a super trash contract like Chandler Parsons who's hurt and trash with 3 years and big monet, we still aren't interested in attaching a 1st to move him

[Village Idiot]

Kessler and Claxton are my top guys who I am okay with moving a 1st.
Secondary guys are Ayton and Robert Williams if he can prove he's healthy for a 2nd.

Either way, we gotta upgrade the 5. Capela is washed more so than the previous years. OO just will never be a starter. He's a high-end backup center at best. Matchup dependent as ever. Nance Jr. has been a good quality backup 5 so we got 3 of them and no starters. We gotta fix that.

No one is going to touch Hunter's contract.

Also, I would like to look into OO for Obi Toppin. We need scoring and shooting off the bench badly. Even though he's far more costly, I would also like to look into trading CC for Kuzma. The Kuzma trade would probably be expensive since they will likely want a pick and no way we are trading a 1st for Kuzma.

How about Ayton for Hunter, Capela and the lower (least favorable) of the Lakers and Kings picks?

Ayton isn't worth a 1st of any sort. He's playing worse right now than Capela. Why would we do that?

I agree with you. Take the first out.

Portland has looked way better with Simons and Ayton out.

Whether Capela is playing better than Ayton is a different question. I haven´t seen enough of Capela this season to have a well formed opinion but my impression was that he is horrid and completely washed and that one of the Hawks primary issues is the sorrid state of the center rotation.

I imagine that I speak on behalf of most Trailblazers fans in being happy getting rid of Ayton for ending contracts such as Nance and Capela or a less wanted guy on a larger contract. My impression from reading this board and others is that Hunter might be such a guy.

[tbhawksfan1]

How about Ayton for Hunter, Capela and the lower (least favorable) of the Lakers and Kings picks?

Ayton isn't worth a 1st of any sort. He's playing worse right now than Capela. Why would we do that?

I agree with you. Take the first out.

Portland has looked way better with Simons and Ayton out.

Whether Capela is playing better than Ayton is a different question. I haven´t seen enough of Capela this season to have a well formed opinion but my impression was that he is horrid and completely washed and that one of the Hawks primary issues is the sorrid state of the center rotation.

I imagine that I speak on behalf of most Trailblazers fans in being happy getting rid of Ayton for ending contracts such as Nance and Capela or a less wanted guy on a larger contract. My impression from reading this board and others is that Hunter might be such a guy.

There are a hand full of teams looking for a starting C. Hawks aren't one of them. The fact that no one is asking about Ayton probably tells you everything you need to know

[Village Idiot]

Ayton isn't worth a 1st of any sort. He's playing worse right now than Capela. Why would we do that?

I agree with you. Take the first out.

Portland has looked way better with Simons and Ayton out.

Whether Capela is playing better than Ayton is a different question. I haven´t seen enough of Capela this season to have a well formed opinion but my impression was that he is horrid and completely washed and that one of the Hawks primary issues is the sorrid state of the center rotation.

I imagine that I speak on behalf of most Trailblazers fans in being happy getting rid of Ayton for ending contracts such as Nance and Capela or a less wanted guy on a larger contract. My impression from reading this board and others is that Hunter might be such a guy.

There are a hand full of teams looking for a starting C. Hawks aren't one of them. The fact that no one is asking about Ayton probably tells you everything you need to know

I quoted KingKen in my original post so he, for one, was.

[tbhawksfan1]

I agree with you. Take the first out.

Portland has looked way better with Simons and Ayton out.

Whether Capela is playing better than Ayton is a different question. I haven´t seen enough of Capela this season to have a well formed opinion but my impression was that he is horrid and completely washed and that one of the Hawks primary issues is the sorrid state of the center rotation.

I imagine that I speak on behalf of most Trailblazers fans in being happy getting rid of Ayton for ending contracts such as Nance and Capela or a less wanted guy on a larger contract. My impression from reading this board and others is that Hunter might be such a guy.

There are a hand full of teams looking for a starting C. Hawks aren't one of them. The fact that no one is asking about Ayton probably tells you everything you need to know

I quoted KingKen in my original post so he, for one, was.

I may have missed something, but I see where he says that Ayton is playing worse than CC. With their contract, I would never trade CC for Ayton

Would also rather keep Hunter than get Ayton. If you find a Hawk fan that disagrees, more power to you. I think that Ayton is your tank commander for a while

Best of luck though. I would love to see PORT put a team together. Lot of west teams I like less than PORT

[Village Idiot]

There are a hand full of teams looking for a starting C. Hawks aren't one of them. The fact that no one is asking about Ayton probably tells you everything you need to know

I quoted KingKen in my original post so he, for one, was.

I may have missed something, but I see where he says that Ayton is playing worse than CC. With their contract, I would never trade CC for Ayton

Would also rather keep Hunter than get Ayton. If you find a Hawk fan that disagrees, more power to you. I think that Ayton is your tank commander for a while

Best of luck though. I would love to see PORT put a team together. Lot of west teams I like less than PORT

In post 833 of this thread KingKen wrote:

Kessler and Claxton are my top guys who I am okay with moving a 1st.
Secondary guys are Ayton and Robert Williams if he can prove he's healthy for a 2nd.

Either way, we gotta upgrade the 5. Capela is washed more so than the previous years. OO just will never be a starter. He's a high-end backup center at best. Matchup dependent as ever. Nance Jr. has been a good quality backup 5 so we got 3 of them and no starters. We gotta fix that.

so it's not like I was making something up. He seems to have changed his mind and I think Portland winning with Ayton out has hurt his value but made him more available.

[tbhawksfan1]

I quoted KingKen in my original post so he, for one, was.

I may have missed something, but I see where he says that Ayton is playing worse than CC. With their contract, I would never trade CC for Ayton

Would also rather keep Hunter than get Ayton. If you find a Hawk fan that disagrees, more power to you. I think that Ayton is your tank commander for a while

Best of luck though. I would love to see PORT put a team together. Lot of west teams I like less than PORT

In post 833 of this thread KingKen wrote:

Kessler and Claxton are my top guys who I am okay with moving a 1st.
Secondary guys are Ayton and Robert Williams if he can prove he's healthy for a 2nd.

Either way, we gotta upgrade the 5. Capela is washed more so than the previous years. OO just will never be a starter. He's a high-end backup center at best. Matchup dependent as ever. Nance Jr. has been a good quality backup 5 so we got 3 of them and no starters. We gotta fix that.

so it's not like I was making something up. He seems to have changed his mind and I think Portland winning with Ayton out has hurt his value but made him more available.

No worries. I see that you're a PORT fan in Spain

[Jkam31]

Kessler and Claxton are my top guys who I am okay with moving a 1st.
Secondary guys are Ayton and Robert Williams if he can prove he's healthy for a 2nd.

Either way, we gotta upgrade the 5. Capela is washed more so than the previous years. OO just will never be a starter. He's a high-end backup center at best. Matchup dependent as ever. Nance Jr. has been a good quality backup 5 so we got 3 of them and no starters. We gotta fix that.

No one is going to touch Hunter's contract.

Also, I would like to look into OO for Obi Toppin. We need scoring and shooting off the bench badly. Even though he's far more costly, I would also like to look into trading CC for Kuzma. The Kuzma trade would probably be expensive since they will likely want a pick and no way we are trading a 1st for Kuzma.

Sacramento would especially in a package for Nance to back up Sabonis. Huerter/Lyles and cap fillies works would depend on what picks Atlanta wants I think we’d give up a first if Hunter can come back and start playing soon

There is no interest in trading anyone on our roster to attach a 1st with. No one. The 1st is way too valuable to us. Even if we had a super trash contract like Chandler Parsons who's hurt and trash with 3 years and big monet, we still aren't interested in attaching a 1st to move him

I’m a kings fan I meant we would give up a first most likely remove all protections from this years pick and add two second round picks with Huerter and Jones as salary filler. Huerter could probably be rerouted for more picks

[King Ken]

I agree with you. Take the first out.

Portland has looked way better with Simons and Ayton out.

Whether Capela is playing better than Ayton is a different question. I haven´t seen enough of Capela this season to have a well formed opinion but my impression was that he is horrid and completely washed and that one of the Hawks primary issues is the sorrid state of the center rotation.

I imagine that I speak on behalf of most Trailblazers fans in being happy getting rid of Ayton for ending contracts such as Nance and Capela or a less wanted guy on a larger contract. My impression from reading this board and others is that Hunter might be such a guy.

There are a hand full of teams looking for a starting C. Hawks aren't one of them. The fact that no one is asking about Ayton probably tells you everything you need to know

I quoted KingKen in my original post so he, for one, was.

Ayton was playing solid in the first 5 games but has since regressed back to bad Ayton. His value fluctuate a lot as he's not consistent but his contract is extremely consistent

Capela is washed so he's going to have good streaks like now and bad ones like how he was playing in the first 5 games

[tbhawksfan1]

Looking at the numbers, even with CC and LNJr expiring, we are going to be too hard up against the cap next offseason. DD will need an extension at some point next season and we'll have to do something with back up C unless one of CC / Nance are brought back

The only two players I see with control that could be moved for cap reasons are Hunter and Bog... maybe OO but doubt it. Am I miscalculating?

I know we want to win this season and continue to improve going forward, but we also know that odds are the team stays below the first apron next season

[jayu70]

Looking at the numbers, even with CC and LNJr expiring, we are going to be too hard up against the cap next offseason. DD will need an extension at some point next season and we'll have to do something with back up C unless one of CC / Nance are brought back

The only two players I see with control that could be moved for cap reasons are Hunter and Bog... maybe OO but doubt it. Am I miscalculating?

I know we want to win this season and continue to improve going forward, but we also know that odds are the team stays below the first apron next season

Dyson will be eligible for an early extension but his salary won't kick in until the following season- similar to JJ this year.
Bogi may be likely due to age and contract since his last year is a team option.
Hunter is always the wild card - he has to stay on the floor.