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Post#1 » by geeman » Wed May 19, 2010 12:28 am

well, they don't need wall! I smell trades
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Post#2 » by geeman » Wed May 19, 2010 12:34 am

If we lose Joe maybe a marvin for Iguodala trade?
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Post#3 » by raleigh » Wed May 19, 2010 12:38 am

geeman wrote:well, they don't need wall! I smell trades


They don't need Arenas. Wall they'd love.
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Post#4 » by HoopsGuru25 » Wed May 19, 2010 12:45 am

They don't need Arenas.

Arenas isn't going anywhere though.
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Post#5 » by HoopsGuru25 » Wed May 19, 2010 12:47 am

This was a very interesting lottery. I think you could find a way to play Wall with Arenas...but Iguodala and Turner are basically the same player offensively.
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Post#6 » by evildallas » Wed May 19, 2010 2:14 am

Wall's speed makes him a must selection for Washington. Arenas is a 4yr/$80M dead weight that they will probably try to make an undersized shooting guard out of unless they have the balls to make him the new microwave off the bench and start Nick Young at the 2. They've got young big in McGee and Blatche. What I think is particularly interesting about Washington is their cap space. They could have the money to offer a max deal to someone this summer or they could keep it and hope for Carmelo next summer. My prediction is they pick up Josh Howard's option and then make a play for Anthony next summer.

The other thing that I think comes out of this is that most likely let Randy Foye walk for nothing and Shaun Livingston might be available as well.
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Post#7 » by evildallas » Wed May 19, 2010 2:39 am

As for Philly at #2, while I think they could make Evan Turner work (3 man wing rotation bringing Turner along slowly before trading Igoudala down the road), I think they might at least field offers before picking. They could trade down and draft a C as well or they might be a candidate for that Utah suggestion. Igoudala and filler for Kirilenko and the 9th pick. Iggy becomes the 2 guard that Utah has always sought. Philly gets Turner to replace Iggy. With the 9th pick they land a C like Monroe or Aldrich or Whiteside. At the end of the year Kirilenko and Dalembert would both expire (along with Kapono and Green). It would mean they would have a lineup of Holiday, Turner, Young, Brand, and Aldrich (or one of the other C) and enough room under the cap to land a max free agent in 2011.
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Post#8 » by evildallas » Wed May 19, 2010 2:44 am

In terms of Atlanta, this means that NJ is unlikely to trade Harris. I think they likely go after Favors which means that they could still be in the market for Joe, just not necessarily in a S&T deal. Minnesota is likely to get Wesley Johnson which would conceivably lower the market for Marvin if he were shopped. That's all I got.
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Post#9 » by td00 » Wed May 19, 2010 4:01 am

IMO, Philly is looking to take some the $$ off their roster. They could choose a Cousins and be in very good shape to make the playoffs next year. They can move a Brand and/or Dalembert now.

Hard to find a quality big man from any draft.
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Post#10 » by HMFFL » Wed May 19, 2010 4:13 am

Not exactly draft talk....
Minnesota should fill the void at the 3 by focusing on a trade that sends Ricky Rubio to New York for Danilo Gallinari. It makes the most sense for all the parties involved and Minnesota can focus on another area with the 4th overall pick.
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Post#11 » by evildallas » Wed May 19, 2010 5:43 am

td00 wrote:IMO, Philly is looking to take some the $$ off their roster. They could choose a Cousins and be in very good shape to make the playoffs next year. They can move a Brand and/or Dalembert now.

Hard to find a quality big man from any draft.


Dalembert expires so unless someone with cap room just takes him they might as well let him expire. Brand is almost as untradable as Gilbert Arenas these days. Igoudala has trade value and can be replaced by a guy with better upside at the position with the pick. One thing for certain is that the pieces don't fit together right now in Philly. Perhaps Turner fits better and Igoudala picks up a valuable piece or other picks.
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Post#12 » by evildallas » Wed May 19, 2010 6:08 am

HMFFL wrote:Not exactly draft talk....
Minnesota should fill the void at the 3 by focusing on a trade that sends Ricky Rubio to New York for Danilo Gallinari. It makes the most sense for all the parties involved and Minnesota can focus on another area with the 4th overall pick.


Don't see that happening. Rubio is a draft pick albatross like Marvin was for Knight and Vasquez for Otis Smith. As long as the potential is there you can claim that you didn't totally botch the pick. If David Kahn traded Rubio with a big payoff he'd likely be sealing his fate.

I have a potential suggestion for Minnesota's search for a SF. Marvin Williams and the 53th for Ramon Sessions, #16, and the #45 pick. They get an experienced starting SF with high potential (especially if he can get a fresh start) signed to a reasonable contract to plug instantly into the starting lineup for a draft unknown and a spare part. We get a PG who can play in case Teague isn't ready, with the 16th pick we have a better choice of bigs or swingmen, with the 45th pick we can possibly get a senior contributor that might not have fallen to 53, and we also would pick up about a $1M in cap space (roughly). We also would have our 24th pick that could be a swingman, guard, or another big like Alabi, Pondexter, Lawal or even Babbitt. I hate giving up on Marvin before seeing him with another coach, but if he's paid too well to be the 5th offensive option and while he's a good perimeter defender I don't consider him a stopper either. Furthermore our depth has been weak for years and this is a deep draft where we get strong contributing rotation players on rookie deals to fill out the roster or luck out on a talented project that left early to avoid the lockout and dropped because of the numbers game. With a new coach maybe we can get those rookie contract contributions that other teams in the league seem to enjoy.
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Post#13 » by Harry10 » Wed May 19, 2010 6:15 am

for me, Wall and Turner are on the same level. Wall might be a 99, and Turner is a 98.

but Wall has a 8'7 standing reach, so he shouldn't have any problems playing a Dwayne Wade type of 2guard.
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Post#14 » by HoopsGuru25 » Wed May 19, 2010 6:24 am

but Wall has a 8'7 standing reach

I'll believe this when I see it at the combine.
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Post#15 » by Harry10 » Sat May 22, 2010 3:56 am

Wall - 8'5.5

only 1/2 an inch shorter than Wade, should have no problem playing the 2.
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Post#16 » by HMFFL » Sat May 22, 2010 1:53 pm

Harry10 wrote:Wall - 8'5.5

only 1/2 an inch shorter than Wade, should have no problem playing the 2.


What the Wall thinks about playing the 2.

Michael Lee: John Wall: "If they pick me, if they want me to be the player that I want to be, I have to have the ball in my hands - as a point guard." Twitter.com
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Post#17 » by Harry10 » Sat May 22, 2010 5:11 pm

^ yeah, pretty much the same thing Wade is doing right now.

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