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Post#1 » by HMFFL » Sat May 29, 2010 5:29 pm

Atlanta Hawks: Don’t Expect Immediate Help From Draft

Hawks assistant GM Dave Pendergraft watched dozens of college prospects throughout the season. When it ended, he was “excited” about the possibilities for the team’s No. 24 overall draft pick, figuring the Hawks would have several good prospects to choose from during the June 24 draft.

But then Pendergraft scrutinized Synergy Sports video and data, evaluated prospects’ workouts and interviews and took note of their physical measurements.

“Now, as things start to dwindle down, I’m really not so sure about that,” Pendergraft said today.

Pendergraft was fresh back from pre-draft workouts for 42 less-heralded prospects in Minneapolis this week. Of those players, Pendergraft said “a handful” were first-round material. With the Hawks picking near the bottom of the first round, those workouts plus the 23 prospects they plan to bring in between now and the draft are more important than the Chicago camp for top prospects (which have become less useful, anyway, with most players opting not to work out).

Pendergraft ranks the top five prospects, in order, as Kentucky’s John Wall, Ohio State’s Evan Turner, Kentucky’s DeMarcus Cousins, Georgia Tech’s Derrick Favor and Syracuse’s Wesley Johnson. He said one or two of those players will face a steep learning curve but that all should be good players by the end of the season.

After those five, he said the draft becomes “very, very hard to predict” but he thinks teams can find rotation players as low as No. 20 in the order, depending on their needs. “If that player is a worker, by the All-Star break they will be giving you some minutes,” he said.

The talent drops off after those top 15 or 20. So unless the Hawks move up in the order, Pendergraft doesn’t expect this draft to be deep enough for the Hawks to find a player who’s ready to contribute now.

“I think we will get a piece,” he said. “I don’t think we will necessarily get a rotational piece. We can get a player who after some seasoning can stay in the NBA for a while, that can make a career out of it. If we can keep our roster intact I don’t see a lot of playing time. It will be a situation where we take advantage of our D-League affiliate.”


“Unfortunately, the big bodies that fall to us will be more in the project range,” Pendergraft said. “You have to look at NBA free agents [at center] and say they probably are a better way to go. But if we are going to pick a skill, a need, we need one more shooter.”

Is this draft deep with shooters?

“No,” Pendergraft said. “That’s the [freakin'] problem. There are bunch of guards but not a lot of shooters. There are some good players but they can’t make shots. And the better shooters can’t play a lick of defense.”

The next important evaluation period for the Hawks is another pre-draft camp in New Jersey Jan. 9-11. The Hawks will start bringing in prospects for workouts on Jan. 13 and continue to do so up until Jan. 22.

“Coming into this thing I thought there would be maybe six or seven guys there at [No. 24],” Pendergraft said. “Now that’s shrunk a little bit to maybe three or four. But you never know. The good thing is it’s not going to make or break us because we’ve got good players coming back.”


If Rick Sund, Dave Pendergraft, and our scouts have 20/20 vision they should be able to find us a gem with the 24th pick. The same goes for any of our draft picks. I won't be surprised if our management takes the easy way out and just goes Internationally with our picks, so they can keep them overseas, and not have to worry about paying them during the upcoming season.
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Post#2 » by geeman » Sat May 29, 2010 8:15 pm

Does anyone know who we plan on bringing in?
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Post#3 » by evildallas » Sat May 29, 2010 9:48 pm

As I read that I couldn't help but think "gutless". Almost every draft has players that can contribute falling well into the 2nd round (maybe not 53rd though). It takes vision, effort, and good evaluation skills to identify and select one of these players. When I read stories talking about how the draft is which or not deep enough to help the rotation coming out a month before the draft I feel like I'm being prepared for the front office essentially phoning it in. I don't need or really want to hear their pick in advance (because at 24 it could easily be stolen by another lazy front office), but I'd rather hear stock material about turning over every stone and double checking every possible candidate than the woe is us crap.

If the draft is really weak on shooters as they claim then focus on that in free agency and look for a different skill set like rebounding, length, bulk, ball handling, or perimeter defense in the draft. Last I looked the Hawks could use quite a few different skill sets and some upgrades off the bench. For instance we have a defensive energy guy with no offense game whatsoever (West), don't have to be a great shooter to improve that. We have a situation big who can't move (Collins), I know we can improve on that and probably can at #53.
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Post#4 » by evildallas » Sat May 29, 2010 10:00 pm

Upon re-reading the article it wasn't as bad as I initially felt. I must be in a mood. Of course any big we get at 24 will need coaching and seasoning. The key is to find one worth that effort that you think can start to contribute in his 2nd year and that you'll know what you have before his rookie deal is up.

I do question the evaluation of what the Hawks really need. He says the skill we need is another shooter? No. Sure we could use more shooters as always, but that isn't the killer.

Need #1 - Better coaching (overall and position)
Need #2 - An offense that doesn't rely on isolation and a PG to make it go.
Need #3 - Some interior beef (they don't have to be able to do everything right now, but they should know how to fight for position and block out that would be a start.)
Need #4 - Less exploitable weak link on defensive (our overall defensive will be better if our weak link wasn't so weak).
Need #5 - Better shooting from players in the rotation already (adding a shooter only helps if it replaces a non-shooter in the rotation).
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Post#5 » by playa_lev » Sat May 29, 2010 11:32 pm

evildallas wrote:
1. As I read that I couldn't help but think "gutless". Almost every draft has players that can contribute falling well into the 2nd round (maybe not 53rd though).

2. If the draft is really weak on shooters as they claim then focus on that in free agency and look for a different skill set like rebounding, length, bulk, ball handling, or perimeter defense in the draft.


1. I totaly agree...

2. There aren’t many quality shooters, but they are a few who could be taken at least in consideration. For example Andy Rautins who during the draft combine shoot an amazing 77% (87/112). It’s funny though that there is a chance that he won’t be drafted… or if he isn’t in at 53, Randy Wittman surely will be available. For me it would be a no brainer to choose with the 53.pick one of them. Rautins is a termendous 3point shooter, has good court vision with solid passing ability, while Wittman is a pure all-around shooter, a decent defender who can play SF also.

Sometimes I’m wondering what GM’s are doing during the year… this years draft is extremely deep, basically this 53. pick is like in a regular draft an early second round pick. Omar Samhan (offense), Hamady Ndiaye (defense), Lazar Hayward (effort on both ends of the floor) or Jon Sheyer (shooting)… just a few of them who could be taken in consideration with the 53.pick.
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Post#6 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sun May 30, 2010 2:40 am

Maybe it's just me....but I actually think the 24th pick in this year's draft is strong compared to most years. The 6-14 picks don't excite me from a value perspective.
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Post#7 » by Hawkeyes » Sun May 30, 2010 3:37 am

HoopsGuru25 wrote:Maybe it's just me....but I actually think the 24th pick in this year's draft is strong compared to most years. The 6-14 picks don't excite me from a value perspective.


Agreed. Kind of seems like an excuse is set in stone just incase the pick is a failure.
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Post#8 » by raleigh » Mon May 31, 2010 4:20 pm

HoopsGuru25 wrote:Maybe it's just me....but I actually think the 24th pick in this year's draft is strong compared to most years.


You're absolutely right. Players declared this year that normally would've waited a year (due to fears of a work stoppage).
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Post#9 » by td00 » Wed Jun 2, 2010 2:57 pm

2 guys I want Sund to look into and consider:

James Anderson - Oklahoma St.
Quincy Poindexter - Washington

These guys were their team's offense this year and were very effective (including good numbers at the FT line).

I think you gotta prepare for JJ not being in Atlanta and Jamal needing to get someone learning behind him. That has to be your top priority in this draft. While we need some more defense in the post, we still need to be able to score.

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