Chris Paul demanding a trade huh?

[BAMABIRD]

Realgm front page is reporting CP3 is demanding a trade. I say put a package together quick!

[td00]

It doesn't sound like he would like to play with JJ as one of his main choices.

Me being the NO GM, I would go get the best deal I could despite which team it was. I wouldn't hand CP3 to anyone on a silver platter.

CP3 would be smart to request a trade East. I would get away from the Lakers as much as I could. I can't imagine the Lakers could blow away the Hornets with a sufficient offer.

[HMFFL]

Not good if he joins Orlando or New York.

New Hornets brass already facing crisis with Paul

When Paul was quoted a few weeks ago as saying he'd be open to a trade if the Hornets aren't committed to building a championship team, it was only a small hint as to the size of the chasm that exists between the franchise and its cornerstone player. Paul, in fact, has put into motion an aggressive exit strategy that will accelerate in the coming weeks, and his clear intention is to be traded before the start of the 2010-11 season, a person with direct knowledge of his plans told CBSSports.com Wednesday.

"He wants out," said the person, who has been briefed on Paul's strategy but spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss it publicly. "He wants to play with another superstar. He wants to follow LeBron's model of teaming up with other great players."

Paul's list of preferred destinations consists of the Knicks, Magic and Lakers, and members of his inner circle already have sent word to the Hornets of his desire to be traded to one of those teams, sources say. If Paul has his way, he's played his last game in a Hornets jersey.

"He feels like they haven't put the right pieces together," said the person familiar with the star point guard's plans.

[FCNATL85]

ATL not on his wish list though...

[niffoc4]

The problem is that the Hawks pretty much have to include Smith or Horford, probably Horford since the Hornets have West at the 4. So Horford+Crawford (expiring contract/shooter) and a first...

I'm not sure that's the greatest offer ever, but it beats what NY can offer. Not sure that its better than the Lakers or Orlando's best though.

On top of that who would play center for the Hawks, Pachulia? Our needs for a defensive C would be magnified, and Shaq wouldn't work b/c he can't run.

[davefmcl]

LA and Orl don't have parts that NO would want or those teams would want to part with.

NY can trade Gallinari, Chandler, and Curry, but you wonder if they would want to part with both Gallinari and Chandler even Paul.

We can trade Josh Smith, Marvin, and Bibby to NO and take back CP and Peja.

If we did this trade bring in Shaq would become more vital.

[BAMABIRD]

Personally I think the Hawks have better talent to offer than any of the teams listed, but when you start throwing in 1st round picks, now thats a different story. Does anyone know if Paul has a no trade clause or something similar in his contract that would prevent NO from trading him somewhere other than a team he prefers?

[HMFFL]

Personally I think the Hawks have better talent to offer than any of the teams listed, but when you start throwing in 1st round picks, now thats a different story. Does anyone know if Paul has a no trade clause or something similar in his contract that would prevent NO from trading him somewhere other than a team he prefers?

Only two players have no trade clauses, Kobe Bryant, and Dirk Nowitzki after signing his latest contract. Not surprising that Chris Paul wants to join ownership that are willing to spend and have a good track record.

[BAMABIRD]

Personally I think the Hawks have better talent to offer than any of the teams listed, but when you start throwing in 1st round picks, now thats a different story. Does anyone know if Paul has a no trade clause or something similar in his contract that would prevent NO from trading him somewhere other than a team he prefers?

Only two players have no trade clauses, Kobe Bryant, and Dirk Nowitzki after signing his latest contract. Not surprising that Chris Paul wants to join ownership that are willing to spend and have a good track record.

Ok, I didn't think "no trade clauses" were popular the NBA, thanks.

[HMFFL]

Personally I think the Hawks have better talent to offer than any of the teams listed, but when you start throwing in 1st round picks, now thats a different story. Does anyone know if Paul has a no trade clause or something similar in his contract that would prevent NO from trading him somewhere other than a team he prefers?

Only two players have no trade clauses, Kobe Bryant, and Dirk Nowitzki after signing his latest contract. Not surprising that Chris Paul wants to join ownership that are willing to spend and have a good track record.

Ok, I didn't think "no trade clauses" were popular the NBA, thanks.

A player has to play four seasons or more with the team he's signing with. Joe Johnson wanted one and thankfully we said no.

[Master8492]

Paul
JJ
Marvin
Josh Smith
Okafor


Teague
Evan
Crawford v2
Powell
Joe Smith

I'd dig that.

[evildallas]

Almost any offer we could make would make sense, but the fact that he didn't include Atlanta on his list of approved teams is telling. The ASG/Rick Sund should still reach out to New Orleans to try to get into the fray. But even if they better the offers of other teams if Paul isn't happy here he's likely to opt out in 2 years. I only point that out that if they trade for him they need to be truly dedicated to spending to win or it will be a short term lease.

[niffoc4]

LA and Orl don't have parts that NO would want or those teams would want to part with.

NY can trade Gallinari, Chandler, and Curry, but you wonder if they would want to part with both Gallinari and Chandler even Paul.

We can trade Josh Smith, Marvin, and Bibby to NO and take back CP and Peja.

If we did this trade bring in Shaq would become more vital.

I disagree, I think that Shaq becomes less important once we have a PG who makes his big men look better, especially athletic big men (which Shaq is no longer).
Also, I don't think NO would take that deal b/c they would be getting rid of their star AND taking back long-term contracts. Rather than Peja, in such a deal they'd probably want us to take back Okafor and/or James Posey. Which wouldn't be so bad, though the ownership would have to be COMMITTED to spending at that point.

[D21]

...though the ownership would have to be COMMITTED to spending at that point.

Didn't they say it, that they would spend for the rigth player(s) ?

They already spent for someone lots of people don't see as "right player" unless you have one or two stars, so maybe they can now spend for these stars.

[HoopsGuru25]

NY can trade Gallinari, Chandler, and Curry, but you wonder if they would want to part with both Gallinari and Chandler even Paul.

Is this a joke? Chris Paul is the best point guard in the league and he's 25 years old. Gallinari and Chandler aren't even above average starters yet.

[FCNATL85]

Hawks give Marv, JC, Bibby, 2011 1st, PHO 2nd
gets Paul

NO give Paul, Posey
gets Mo Williams, JC, ATL 2011 1st, Cle 2nd 2011

CLE give Mo Williams, Delonte West, 2nd 2011
gets Marvin, Bibby, PHO 2nd 2011

if needed, ATL can add a 2nd to CLE and a first to NO

then ATL can sign Shaq with a bit more room.

I even like this one better with the same teams:
Paul and Jamison to ATL, ATL gets a starting PG and SF (Jamison moved to SF). by the way still a nice piece to deal later on if needed.

JC, Bibby, JJ Hickson, 1st ATL 2011 and 2012 to NO

Marvin, Zaza, Posey, PHO 2nd, ATL 2nd 11, rights to Akyol and Gladyr to CLE

I would be more confident adding Shaq knowing that the starting line-up would be:
Paul- Teague
JJ- JC2 - FA
Jamison- Evans- Sy
Smoothe- Powell- Jamison
Horford- Shaq- FA or Collins

[FCNATL85]

Can the cash consideration coming from the Childress deal be thrown in to NO as well?

[parson]

^Sadly, no. We can only use that if NO had a player who is worth the TPE we received from Childress' deal - about $3.6 million (if I remember correctly). They don't want to lose their cheaper players and Posey ($6.5 million), Okafor ($11.5 million) and Paul ($15 million) make too much.



Thanks to everyone who helped me see that earlier.

[D21]

Can the cash consideration coming from the Childress deal be thrown in to NO as well?

There was no cash coming from Childress.
We got the right to trade for one or several players for a total of up to 3.6M, but the salaries will have to be paid by ATL owners.
It's a possibility to add players, that's all, and you can't use it as part of a trade.

Meanwhile, we got almost M from the sell of the 31st pick, which is real cash, and the owners said they will use it to improve the team.
They can send up to 3M in any trade, or use it in the salaries, like going 1.5M over the tax, and pay the 1.5M of salaries and the 1.5M of tax with this 3M.

At this moment it seems they will only use it but stay under the tax, so getting a 68M total salaries that really cost them 65M.

[HoopsGuru25]

Hawks give Marv, JC, Bibby, 2011 1st, PHO 2nd
gets Paul

Seriously?