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GM Rankings

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:29 pm
by HMFFL
22. Rick Sund, Hawks

Hired: 2008.

Coaches: Mike Woodson (2008-2010), Larry Drew (present)

Long-term plan: Be a championship contender while still staying under the luxury tax

Key Draft picks: Jeff Teague (19th, 2009), Jordan Crawford (27th, 2010)

Key trades:

* 2009: Traded Acie Law and Speedy Claxton's expiring contract (expiring) to the Warriors for Jamal Crawford

Key free agent signings: Josh Smith in 2008 (five years, $58 million), Mike Bibby in 2009 (three years, $18 million), Zaza Pachulia in 2009 (four years, $16 million), Marvin Williams in 2009 (five years, $38 million), Joe Johnson in 2010 (six years, $125 million).

Key free agents let go: Josh Childress (2008, 2010), Flip Murray (2009).

This may seem really low for the GM of team that was one of the eight best in the league last year, but Sund's lack of creativity drops him way down in my eyes.

The Hawks have a good, but not great team and an ownership group that won't go over the luxury tax. They're not winning a title anytime soon, that's for sure. Yet Sund seems so committed to bringing back the same core of players that have proven they can't get it done.

I'm not even talking about the ridiculous Joe Johnson contract, which we'll get to in a second. I'm talking more about all the moves that led up to it. There's little collective rhyme or reason to the contract handed out to Mike Bibby (three years), Zaza Pachulia (four years), Marvin Williams (five years) and Jamal Crawford (a trade, mind you, but two years). The contracts by themselves make sense, but taken together, they demonstrate a lack of planning. That's four key role players making a combined $25 million per season that expire in four different years.

Let's go back to Johnson now. Yes, his contract is terrible, no doubt. But Sund really got himself stuck by not thinking ahead with his other contracts. He put himself between a rock and a hard place because he did not think to give his role players contracts that all expire around the same time. He limited his options to "sign Johnson, ride it out and maybe rebuild in five years" or "don't sign Johnson and fail to rebuild for a couple years because all of Johnson's role players are clogging up our cap flexibility." Under those circumstances, it's more understandable that Johnson got what he got.

I strongly believe that a lack of creativity and long-term planning with smaller decisions ultimately leads to a lack of creativity and long-term planning with bigger decisions. Bad process leads to bad process. Rick Sund and the Hawks are the best example of this.

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Re: GM Rankings

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:12 am
by HoopsGuru25
Ainge should be higher...perhaps number 1.

Re: GM Rankings

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:07 am
by evildallas
"I strongly believe that a lack of creativity and long-term planning with smaller decisions ultimately leads to a lack of creativity and long-term planning with bigger decisions. Bad process leads to bad process. Rick Sund and the Hawks are the best example of this."

I can't argue with that.

Re: GM Rankings

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:13 am
by Harry10
Joe's and Bibby's contract should put him lower.

Re: GM Rankings

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:20 am
by HoopsGuru25
Agreed on Bibby...but can people stop blaming Sund for the Joe contract and the coaching "searches" of 2008 and 2010? Sund does not have enough power to decide on important matters such as those. It should really be listed as Rick Sund/Michael Gearon.

Re: GM Rankings

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:46 am
by KJizzle
as much as I hate Bibby and Marvin right now
back then there signings were what we needed.

i'm sure if sund knew what he was getting he wouldn't have do it

Re: GM Rankings

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:54 am
by Harry10
^ i'm not mad about Marvin and Zaza, but back then i was advocating hard for the Hawks to offer $20M to Jarret Jack, because i knew Indy would not match. from the start, i knew that Bibby was a bad signing.

Re: GM Rankings

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:47 am
by HoopsGuru25
Marvin and Zaza aren't really overpaid in this market after seeing what guys like Tyrus Thomas and Wesley Matthews got.

Signing Bibby to a 3 year deal before even exploring the possibility of guys like Jack,Sessions,Andre Miller,etc was stupid.

Re: GM Rankings

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:44 am
by D21
HMFFL wrote:Long-term plan: Be a championship contender while still staying under the luxury tax


Certainly already failed.
The last team being champion wihtout paying any tax were SAS and DET.
SAS had one Max player : Duncan. The two other big part are Parker and Ginobili, guys who are at least on Joe's level and who prefer getting good salary and stay in SAS than getting more and not win anything.

By not making a trade before Joe expired, and get a better player than him, he was creating this situation were Joe looks like a Star.
If they have trade one or two players of the core, but got solid veteran like Billups, Ginobili... no way Joe would have looked like that. Everybody would have agree that he's not worth more than 15M.

The other team is DET, where nobody was earning more than 12M.
I don't see how you can want to build like DET and give Joe 124M at the same time.


Now, I agree that Sund was not help to have to do it in two years. But he should have seen it coming more than that, and tried something to avoid that.
He's also not help by owners, because maybe I found trades, but owners vetoed it.