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Post#3761 » by kg01 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:07 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:^This is an amazing bargain for the Heat. And a model for what we can expect hope to sign Taurean for.

Word is the Justise contract is only guaranteed for two years with a team option for year 3.

That's an amazing value for Miami.

Bold prediction: Heat will ultimately come to regret not signing him to a longer contract. Whether he emerges as a top player or as an attractive trade piece.

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A. Agree that's a pretty good bargain for a guy coming off his rookie deal.
B. I expect this to simply be the latest in a long line of bad deals given out by Pat Riley. #Commitment2Mediocrity

Winslow is a really 'meh' player. If we can get Printz on that type of deal I'd do jumping jaks.
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Post#3762 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:23 pm

kg01 wrote:Winslow is a really 'meh' player.


I think you're sleeping on my main man Justise. He's developed a lot slower than I imagined. But dude is a stud.

I previously projected him as a Jimmy Butler/Kawhi caliber prospect in the future...admittedly, that seems very unlikely now.

But I still foresee him as an Iguodala-type payer who can do wonders for a good team. Good defender, good passer.

He simply can't be the guy for a team.
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Post#3763 » by kg01 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:36 pm

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kg01 wrote:Winslow is a really 'meh' player.


I think you're sleeping on my main man Justise. He's developed a lot slower than I imagined. But dude is a stud.

I previously projected him as a Jimmy Butler/Kawhi caliber prospect in the future...admittedly, that seems very unlikely now.

But I still foresee him as an Iguodala-type payer who can do wonders for a good team. Good defender, good passer.

He simply can't be the guy for a team.


That's like a CHA fan talking to a Hawks fan trying to explain how solid Marvin Williams is. Uh, that's not what you draft a guy in the top-5 for, mayne.

I agree he's a solid guy but it's what I call 'Shane Battier Syndrome'. You don't take a guy that high to simply be 'solid'. You can develop 'solid' from the gleague or from a 2nd rounder. Also, I don't pay 'solid' $13mil per either.

Don't get me wrong, I see how a guy like WinSLOW can garner that kind of money. I'm just saying I'd prefer to simply start over with a 'solid' guy who has some upside ... for cheaper.

I never saw Kawhii potential from him. Ever. He played 4 in college which was the only reason he seemed so impactful. I never expected that to be replicated in the NBA and I was proven right. Now eggscuse me while I pop my shoulder back in. Might've torn a ligament patting myself on the back there. :)

Comparing him to Iguodala is insulting to Andre. Remember he actually led a team to the playoffs and was a pretty good scorer in PHI. If you're comparing him to Andre now, you should call him IgOLDala. I'd actually agree with that comparison but, again, that's not a guy I invest in for the future.
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Post#3764 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:39 pm

^No.

This is wrong.

Justise is good and I'd take him over Taurean all day everyday.



kg01 wrote: Also, I don't pay 'solid' $13mil per either.


1. How much does Bazemore make again?
2. Remember this when TPrince is angling for his own extension next summer.
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Post#3765 » by kg01 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:47 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:^No.

This is wrong.

Justise is good and I'd take him over Taurean all day everyday.


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Lemme calm down from the shock of that weird comment. My point is that we've seen the best WinSLOW will ever be. We don't know how good Printz will ultimately become.

kg01 wrote: Also, I don't pay 'solid' $13mil per either.


Jamaaliver wrote:1. How much does Bazemore make again?
2. Remember this when TPrince is angling for his own extension next summer.


1. Does that make it a good deal? I thought not.
2. I've happily pay Printz that contract, if not more. Clearly you didn't read what I wrote.
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Post#3766 » by MaceCase » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:53 pm

kg01 wrote:B. I expect this to simply be the latest in a long line of bad deals given out by Pat Riley. #Commitment2Mediocrity


Too many Urkels on your team that's why your Wins Low

Sorry, that was an obligatory bar.

I just would like to see a legitimate height on Justise. He went from being 6'4" and change to 6'6" now listed like a legit 6'7". Either get him out of those platform shoes or start penning a legend like Anthony Magic Randolph.
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Post#3767 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:22 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:^No.

This is wrong.

Justise is good and I'd take him over Taurean all day everyday.


My point is that we've seen the best WinSLOW will ever be. We don't know how good Printz will ultimately become.



Not sure how you can say this definitively when Justise is two years younger than Taurean...
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Post#3768 » by kg01 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:32 pm

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kg01 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:^No.

This is wrong.

Justise is good and I'd take him over Taurean all day everyday.


My point is that we've seen the best WinSLOW will ever be. We don't know how good Printz will ultimately become.


Not sure how you can say this definitively when Justise is two years younger than Taurean...


Yet we've seen Printz add far more to his game than WinSLOW has in his time in the league.
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Post#3769 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:36 pm

kg01 wrote:Yet we've seen Printz add far more to his game than WinSLOW has in his time in the league.



I'm not trying to slight Prince. But as he approaches age 25 in a few months, it becomes less likely he's still hiding a major step up in play.

He's a good player, But I'd rather have Justise filling that role as a better defender and playmaker.
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Post#3770 » by kg01 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:46 pm

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kg01 wrote:Yet we've seen Printz add far more to his game than WinSLOW has in his time in the league.


I'm not trying to slight Prince. But as he approaches age 25 in a few months, it becomes less likely he's still hiding a major step up in play.

He's a good player, But I'd rather have Justise filling that role as a better defender and playmaker.


I ... I just ....

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I'm done with you on this issue. WinSLOW is closer to dime-a-dozen than many realize.
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Post#3771 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:52 pm

kg01 wrote:WinSLOW is closer to dime-a-dozen than many realize.


^Evidence thus far seems to jutsify this line of thinking.







But...
kg01 wrote: We don't know how good Printz Justise will ultimately become.


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Post#3777 » by ChokeFasncists » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:30 am

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Post#3778 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:42 pm

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Post#3779 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:52 pm

Is AL finally starting that slow decline from pretty good to merely adequate?

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Post#3780 » by steady » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:03 am

So that Kawhi Leonard is pretty good at basketball

There will come a time pretty near in future where 76ers FO. Is going to be asking themselves what in the hell they were thinking when they refused to trade Fultz for him

That last 10 minutes of win over Celtics was a thing of beauty. Lowry stepping up to take charge from Tatum then running down and getting a crunch time three at other end. Green hitting a key 3 ptr. Then Kawhi and Green both swooping in to block a Celtics layup, reminding us how amazing a good defense can be. Getting D Green in package for Kawhi was brilliant move by Ujiri

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