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Right now his contract to me is acceptable at $6.7 million, but during the 12/13 season he's set to make $8.2 million. When should Sund strongly consider moving him?

If nothing is done pass the trade deadline, we could talk but for now, he could be packaged.

HMFFL wrote:Right now his contract to me is acceptable at $6.7 million, but during the 12/13 season he's set to make $8.2 million. When should Sund strongly consider moving him?

Actually, it's more than 6.7M
Marvin has 550k as likely incentives, so he makes more than 7.2M this season. he also has 550k in unlikely incentives that he could get.

Each year, he has 550k likely and 550k unlikely, that 's 1.1M x 5 = 5.5M of incentives, and that's why when he signed that contract, we heard some people telling 37M, some 40M and others 43M... it was between 37.5M and 43M depending on incentives.

What is frustrating is that Marvin could be worth this contract, I still think that, but it seems more and more that it would have to be with another team.
He still has potential, but he looks like a guy needing to be a higher option.
Lots of young prospects drafting that high are getting the ball a lot on even on their rookie year, but Marvin did not get that.
Since he's on this team, he's at best the 4th option. He would certainly be on a different level now if more opportunity to develop, and we can't say that he never increased his production when he got a higher role : when one important player was injured, he often put good games.

Now, it seems it won't change with this roster, but the question is "would it change if we change the roster and keep him ?"
We have to value him between what we see and what he would be supposed to be without Joe or Josh for example.
He's now behind Al, Josh, Joe, Bibby and Crawford, so the 6th option. If at least he got the real 4th option, like Jefferson in SAS, it would be different. He's overpaid for his role, but not necessary for what he could produce if given opportunity.

So if we make other trades, maybe he will be worth that contract.
If we don't trade other players, and change the roster, then he has to be traded.

It was mentioned a lot about his contract not being worthwhile, albeit fair in general, if Joe was retained due to his role not increasing but now with 120mil extra on the books and his role not increasing it definitely has to be moved. The guy is simply not a "get mine" type of player so he will be forever lost on a roster filled with them. He needs to go to a team where the coach will make him a priority or the offense is free flowing enough to get shots up but unfortunately for us I don't think any of his positives have been showcased enough to make what we get back worthwhile outside of a salary dump.
I could see Marv moved to GS for either of Gadzuric or Radmonovics expiring deals, maybe Brandon Wright and at the far end a 1st round pick.
Maybe the Rockets to be Battiers replacement and a Knicks pick seeing as they are going to be a better team than Houston.
The Clippers seem to be going with a full youth movement so maybe they'd swap Marvin out with Gomes and Rasual Butler although unlikely since they have a chance at Harrison Barnes and Aminu is very similar in skillset to Marv.
That's really all I can think of off the top of my head.

For whatever reasons the Cavs have seemed high on Marv for years, dunno if there is a trade possibility there or not. Personally I wouldn't want him.

cavsfan_osiris wrote:For whatever reasons the Cavs have seemed high on Marv for years, dunno if there is a trade possibility there or not. Personally I wouldn't want him.

For Hickson and Gibson and all those 1st round picks K sounds good

cavsfan_osiris wrote:For whatever reasons the Cavs have seemed high on Marv for years, dunno if there is a trade possibility there or not. Personally I wouldn't want him.

For Hickson and Gibson and all those 1st round picks K sounds good

HMFFL wrote:Right now his contract to me is acceptable at $6.7 million, but during the 12/13 season he's set to make $8.2 million. When should Sund strongly consider moving him?

Hawks should have traded Marvin 2 years ago. I don't see any chance for improvement or increase role here. He reminds me of when Diaw was here, he just never was going to grow with this franchise. It worked out well in that case for everybody.