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So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:32 pm
by Geaux_Hawks
So many guys can be used to help our team that aren't doing anything for their current team,who is possibly headed to the lottery..

Guys like:

PG:Ramon Sessions,Rodney Stuckey(My favorite),Aaron Brooks,Shannon Brown(Always wanted)O.J Mayo(Project PG/2nd favorite)Jonny Flynn(Sleeper),Jordan Farmar,Jarret Jack

Combo Guards:Kirk Hinrich,Lou Williams,Tracy McGrady,Randy Foye(Sleeper)

Guard Foward:Austin Daye(Favorite),Jonas Jerebko,Shane Battier,Chase Buddinger,Corey Brewer,Omri Casspi(2nd Favorite),Cartier Martin(Sleeper)

Forward Centers:Yi Jianlian,Javale McGee,Kyrylo Fesenko,Solomon Alabi, Alexis Ajinca,Jason Thompson,Greg Oden,Robin Lopez,Spencer Hawes,Cole Aldrich,Darko Milicic,Hasheem Thabeet,Jared Jefferies,Andris Biedrins,Chris Andersen,Ryan Hollins,Omer Asik,Desagana Diop,Kwame Brown,

I think I named every Big out there for the hell of it..lol

I think all those guys can be had at a cheap rate besides money costs.Some may be garbage but I firmly believe in one mans trash is another mans gold.A few of those players can retool our bench and start(mainly the "Bigs")

My Favorites and more likely to happen are Rodney Stuckey/OJ Mayo(PG);Tracy Mcgrady(SG);Austin Daye/Omri Cassspi(SF);Robin Lopez(C)

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:37 pm
by evildallas
Gerald Wallace is being dangled for an expiring contract and a pick. Would it be horrible to offer Jamal Crawford and a 2nd rounder for Wallace to see if they bite? I think Crash could inject new intensity into a lineup filled with malaise.

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:44 pm
by parson
Not sure Javale McGee, Greg Oden, Robin Lopez, Cole Aldrich, Darko Milicic, Andris Biedrins or Chris Andersen "can be had at a cheap rate besides money costs." IF you're right, I'd want us to move, especially on McGee.

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:54 pm
by Geaux_Hawks
parson wrote:Not sure Javale McGee, Greg Oden, Robin Lopez, Cole Aldrich, Darko Milicic, Andris Biedrins or Chris Andersen "can be had at a cheap rate besides money costs." IF you're right, I'd want us to move, especially on McGee.


I guess I meant to say without maybe giving up "Core" pieces(Smith,Horford,Joe,& Crawford,if you consider Crawford)

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:54 pm
by evildallas
I don't believe McGee is available. The rumor is they want a 1st rounder for Hinrich. I can't imagine what the asking price is for McGee.

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:00 pm
by Geaux_Hawks
Maybe my frustration makes me believe guys like McGee and Aldrich can be had..Wizard shouldnt trade us a potential Super Star anyway.Dang I just want a move bcuz the East is becoming full of future contenders..

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:19 pm
by ATL DirtyBird
evildallas wrote:Gerald Wallace is being dangled for an expiring contract and a pick. Would it be horrible to offer Jamal Crawford and a 2nd rounder for Wallace to see if they bite? I think Crash could inject new intensity into a lineup filled with malaise.

All Wallace does now is shoot jumpers. He cant shoot, if you dont remember. Plus, I dont think it would take Crawford plus a pick to get him.

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:40 pm
by Rafael122
evildallas wrote:I don't believe McGee is available. The rumor is they want a 1st rounder for Hinrich. I can't imagine what the asking price is for McGee.


Hinrich is prospect plus a first round pick. Wiz fan here. McGee would cost you guys an arm and a leg. Any deal would probably start with Josh Smith.

Would the Hawks do Hinrich + filler for Bibby + Evans + Jo. Crawford + 1st round pick?

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:58 pm
by Geaux_Hawks
If any deal starts with Josh then McGee is overrated by the fans,Hinrich is a prospect + a first bcuz of we want Bibby gone.McGee produces mediocre numbers with a significant 2.3 blocks and you want to start with Josh..lol

Dont get me wrong,McGee will be an All Star just not in the next 2-3 years,he has no offensive game besides maybe12-15 foot range maybe

A first, Zaza, and Jordan for starters any fillers

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:05 pm
by theatlfan
Rafael122 wrote:Would the Hawks do Hinrich + filler for Bibby + Evans + Jo. Crawford + 1st round pick?
This would be a "No". There was a fairly long conversation elsewhere, and most fans don't want him. We'd go Bibby + minor assets + filler for him, but we wouldn't touch JC2. Depends on what our FO sees as "minor" for the assets though: generally it'd be a 2nd, but with a weak draft this year we could consider a 1st.

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:21 pm
by evildallas
Rafael122 wrote:
evildallas wrote:I don't believe McGee is available. The rumor is they want a 1st rounder for Hinrich. I can't imagine what the asking price is for McGee.


Hinrich is prospect plus a first round pick. Wiz fan here. McGee would cost you guys an arm and a leg. Any deal would probably start with Josh Smith.

Would the Hawks do Hinrich + filler for Bibby + Evans + Jo. Crawford + 1st round pick?


Exactly, that was my point. Center and PG have more value. McGee is raw offensively but gives good rebounding and blocks. Ironically if we traded Smith for McGee you'd probably have to use Hinrich as filler to make the contracts work.

As for Hinrich, no. If I'm giving up a prospect and a 1st round pick then I'm going after Andre Miller, Ramon Sessions, or Aaron Brooks. I don't consider Hinrich (the highest paid of the group) to be worth that bounty. I'd consider him for either a pick or a prospect but not both (+salary match in any case). While he gives a defensive upgrade, I see him as adding little in terms of offense thus my stance.

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:53 pm
by Geaux_Hawks
McGee has no offensive game period except maybe12-15 feet,nor does he have post moves,and then only averages 9/7.A guy with his athleticism should be at least beasting the boards, and getting easy put back for dunks for a solid 15/12.Everyone knows he is going to develop but its going to take a few years and Josh should not even be mentioned..

Re: So much still available

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:46 pm
by Rafael122
Geaux_Hawks wrote:McGee has no offensive game period except maybe12-15 feet,nor does he have post moves,and then only averages 9/7.A guy with his athleticism should be at least beasting the boards, and getting easy put back for dunks for a solid 15/12.Everyone knows he is going to develop but its going to take a few years and Josh should not even be mentioned..


I'm saying, bigs are a premium. If you're trading McGee, they would probably ask for one of their top 4 players. That's just how it is. You don't trade 23 year old 7 footers that could probably block 2 shots per game.