ImageImage

If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum

Moderators: dms269, HMFFL, Jamaaliver

Harry10
Banned User
Posts: 8,784
And1: 1
Joined: Jun 16, 2002

If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#1 » by Harry10 » Thu Apr 7, 2011 1:48 am

If the Hawks can move Joe, and miss out on Dwight, Deron, and CP3, should the Hawks make an offer and over pay Andrew Bynum (offer an extra 2-3 million per year to what ever the Lakers offer him)?
Wizardspride
RealGM
Posts: 17,137
And1: 11,323
Joined: Nov 05, 2004
Location: Olney, MD/Kailua/Kaneohe, HI
       

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#2 » by Wizardspride » Thu Apr 7, 2011 2:09 am

Harry10 wrote:If the Hawks can move Joe, and miss out on Dwight, Deron, and CP3, should the Hawks make an offer and over pay Andrew Bynum (offer an extra 2-3 million per year to what ever the Lakers offer him)?


We don't know what the CBA will look like but either way, it'll take more than an extra 2-3 mil to get Andrew.

Now that I think about it, why would he leave L.A.?

President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
Harry10
Banned User
Posts: 8,784
And1: 1
Joined: Jun 16, 2002

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#3 » by Harry10 » Thu Apr 7, 2011 2:23 am

Wizardspride wrote:We don't know what the CBA will look like but either way, it'll take more than an extra 2-3 mil to get Andrew.

Now that I think about it, why would he leave L.A.?


to make an extra 18 million. that is an extra 900 thousand for his agent, for a guy who is not making any commericals in LA.
User avatar
Geaux_Hawks
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,473
And1: 1,154
Joined: Feb 18, 2011
     

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#4 » by Geaux_Hawks » Thu Apr 7, 2011 2:36 am

Man his knees would really have to hold up without injury before I even think about giving him 10-12 million. He is liable to go down at anytime, which is too risky for me. He could very well go on to stay healthy for the rest of his career, but I would rather let LA pay him to do so.

Why not go after Hibbert, who has a QO that year??
HoopsGuru25
General Manager
Posts: 9,321
And1: 3
Joined: Apr 18, 2006

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#5 » by HoopsGuru25 » Thu Apr 7, 2011 2:42 am

Extra 18 million? In what planet would a team like the Hawks outbid the Lakers for a player they clearly want to keep?
Harry10
Banned User
Posts: 8,784
And1: 1
Joined: Jun 16, 2002

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#6 » by Harry10 » Thu Apr 7, 2011 2:48 am

HoopsGuru25 wrote:Extra 18 million? In what planet would a team like the Hawks outbid the Lakers for a player they clearly want to keep?


the same team who gave Joe two huge contracts
User avatar
Ruhiel
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,502
And1: 45
Joined: Dec 28, 2010

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#7 » by Ruhiel » Thu Apr 7, 2011 4:29 am

I did not know that the Lakers have a Payroll of $90 million o.O
johnny878
Senior
Posts: 685
And1: 1
Joined: Jul 27, 2008

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#8 » by johnny878 » Thu Apr 7, 2011 4:33 am

if ignoring injury risk which you would need to to want bynum, would prefer to overpay oden that same amount of money which would tempt portland to a sign and trade

but would prefer to avoid both like the plague
Harry10
Banned User
Posts: 8,784
And1: 1
Joined: Jun 16, 2002

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#9 » by Harry10 » Thu Apr 7, 2011 5:13 am

johnny878 wrote:if ignoring injury risk which you would need to to want bynum, would prefer to overpay oden that same amount of money which would tempt portland to a sign and trade

but would prefer to avoid both like the plague


on average, Oden misses 61 games a year due to injury, Bynum on average misses 27 games a year. i feel better over paying Bynum for 55 games, then overpaying Joe for 82 games.
User avatar
Geaux_Hawks
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,473
And1: 1,154
Joined: Feb 18, 2011
     

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#10 » by Geaux_Hawks » Thu Apr 7, 2011 5:33 am

Harry10 wrote:
johnny878 wrote:if ignoring injury risk which you would need to to want bynum, would prefer to overpay oden that same amount of money which would tempt portland to a sign and trade

but would prefer to avoid both like the plague


on average, Oden misses 61 games a year due to injury, Bynum on average misses 27 games a year. i feel better over paying Bynum for 55 games, then overpaying Joe for 82 games.


The same reason I disagreed on overpaying for Bynum is because, we may have him for the regular season, but come play off time, he is to hurt to make the impact he did during the regular season. I think I would take Oden at a cheaper price and get similar production if not the same.

Still wouldn't mind taking Oden this off season. Just saying
User avatar
Bucked19
Pro Prospect
Posts: 819
And1: 8
Joined: Feb 23, 2011

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#11 » by Bucked19 » Thu Apr 7, 2011 9:05 pm

Ya'll act like Joe is so bad,if he gets a major injury ya'll will see how bad the team is without him
Hard in the paint like Josh Smith, do not slip, I bang mine I'm zone one bankhead shawty, I'm west side no gang signs
User avatar
Ruhiel
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,502
And1: 45
Joined: Dec 28, 2010

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#12 » by Ruhiel » Thu Apr 7, 2011 10:02 pm

Bucked19 wrote:Ya'll act like Joe is so bad,if he gets a major injury ya'll will see how bad the team is without him

He's overpaid.
User avatar
Bucked19
Pro Prospect
Posts: 819
And1: 8
Joined: Feb 23, 2011

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#13 » by Bucked19 » Thu Apr 7, 2011 11:04 pm

Ruhiel wrote:
Bucked19 wrote:Ya'll act like Joe is so bad,if he gets a major injury ya'll will see how bad the team is without him

He's overpaid.

So,its not his fault
Hard in the paint like Josh Smith, do not slip, I bang mine I'm zone one bankhead shawty, I'm west side no gang signs
User avatar
Geaux_Hawks
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,473
And1: 1,154
Joined: Feb 18, 2011
     

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#14 » by Geaux_Hawks » Fri Apr 8, 2011 12:07 am

Bucked19 wrote:
Ruhiel wrote:
Bucked19 wrote:Ya'll act like Joe is so bad,if he gets a major injury ya'll will see how bad the team is without him

He's overpaid.

So,its not his fault


I agree he is overpaid and its not his fault because of it, but we do realize we wouldn't be the 3rd-5th seed team we are now without him unless we had adequate pieces.
HoopsGuru25
General Manager
Posts: 9,321
And1: 3
Joined: Apr 18, 2006

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#15 » by HoopsGuru25 » Fri Apr 8, 2011 2:07 am

It's not his fault he's overpaid...but that doesn't mean the criticism he gets isn't warranted. He appears apathetic in any situation outside of criticizing the fans(and occasionally other players),doesn't have an impact on ticket sales,and is slowly getting a rep for being on of the worst "big game" players in the league(excluding game 4 vs Boston and game 7 vs Miami).
User avatar
evildallas
General Manager
Posts: 9,412
And1: 1
Joined: Aug 11, 2005
Location: in the land of weak ownership
Contact:

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#16 » by evildallas » Fri Apr 8, 2011 2:17 am

Should the Hawks move Joe? Yes, even as a good player he was never going to be worth what they paid him.
Should the Hawks go after Bynum? Maybe. I mean sure I'd check to see if he was available and for how much, but it isn't like he's a free agent. He can be a difference making big, but he has a history of health issues. Those haunt a lot of bigs. The truth is that it would likely be a waste to go after Bynum because of the combined cost of assets to acquire him and salary to pay him factored against his likelihood of injury and the remaining amount of talent on the roster. We'd not have enough left to truly compete after being bent over by the Lakers in any trade scenario. We'd have the key big, but then we'd have to build back up around him all the time hoping that he's still healthy when we get the pieces in place.
Going to donkey punch a leprechaun!
Harry10
Banned User
Posts: 8,784
And1: 1
Joined: Jun 16, 2002

Re: If the Hawks can move Joe, Should the team go after Bynum 

Post#17 » by Harry10 » Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:22 am

evildallas wrote:Should the Hawks move Joe? Yes, even as a good player he was never going to be worth what they paid him.
Should the Hawks go after Bynum? Maybe. I mean sure I'd check to see if he was available and for how much, but it isn't like he's a free agent. He can be a difference making big, but he has a history of health issues. Those haunt a lot of bigs. The truth is that it would likely be a waste to go after Bynum because of the combined cost of assets to acquire him and salary to pay him factored against his likelihood of injury and the remaining amount of talent on the roster. We'd not have enough left to truly compete after being bent over by the Lakers in any trade scenario. We'd have the key big, but then we'd have to build back up around him all the time hoping that he's still healthy when we get the pieces in place.


it is not a trade scenario..... its a 2013 free agent signing scenario, because i do think at Bynum and his agent are going to test the free agent market

Return to Atlanta Hawks