Keith Bogans Waived

Superiorblogman · Post #1 » by **Superiorblogman** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:38 pm

I think this would be a great veteran pickup that can still play.

He could give us some backcourt depth and is a good defender. We don't have a good defender coming off the bench.

Skyhawk1 · Post #2 » by **Skyhawk1** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:45 pm

Sorry I just don't see a reason to sign this guy. He sucks!

myrak433 · Post #3 » by **myrak433** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:03 am

He sucks as a starter. Not a guy coming off the bench. he is miles better than Mario West and Damian Wilkins.

Superiorblogman · Post #4 » by **Superiorblogman** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:06 am

The guy far from sucks. He would be great as a defender and someone who can knock down a open 3 off the bench

FCNATL85 · Post #5 » by **FCNATL85** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:48 am

agreed. No need for T Mac AND Stack together; ASG is not running a retirement house!

Superiorblogman · Post #6 » by **Superiorblogman** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:45 am

After seeing T-Mac and Stack tonite I will be very disappointed if we don't cut one or both and reach out to Bogans. :evil:

D21 · Post #7 » by **D21** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:37 am

If Pargo contract is guaranteed, then Stackhouse is already out.
We are almost at the Tax threshold now, including McGrady, but not Stackhouse, and we won't pay Tax for Stackhouse.

Superiorblogman · Post #8 » by **Superiorblogman** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:22 am

D21 wrote:If Pargo contract is guaranteed, then Stackhouse is already out.
We are almost at the Tax threshold now, including McGrady, but not Stackhouse, and we won't pay Tax for Stackhouse.

Contract is not guaranteed per MC on AJC blog

Rod700 · Post #9 » by **Rod700** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:47 pm

For our bench, I wish we could have focused more on hussle guys who can hit the 3 like Mo Evans and Bogans instead of McGrady, Stack, and unproven players.

RoundMoundOfRebound · Post #10 » by **RoundMoundOfRebound** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:48 pm

Solid defensive role player. If he is your backup SG you could do worse.

MaceCase · Post #11 » by **MaceCase** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:23 pm

We already had him on the roster, his name was just Mo Evans then.

Superiorblogman · Post #12 » by **Superiorblogman** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:39 pm

Bogans is better than Mo Evans defensively and they both are better than Stack or T-Mac currently

basic21 · Post #13 » by **basic21** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:04 pm

the Rip signing might actually be a case of subtraction by addition.

Bogans was always a thug on defense, and Joe does get bothered by physical defense.

Rip was always the weakest defender on the Pistons, and Joe and Marvin always had a field day on him.

Joe dominated Bogans last year, i think on offense, Joe will destroy the older Rip.

Rip might give the Bulls 15 points, but we might see the old Joe, where he would put up 40 points on guys like Ben Gordon, and Salmons.

panthermark · Post #14 » by **panthermark** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:04 pm

Bogans is a solid bench player....but awful as a starter. He can't create is own shot, but he can be a good role player if you need defense and the occasional wide open 3. I would not mind having in back, but we basically drafted a younger version of him in Butler, and we also have Brewer as our bench defender.

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As far as Rip vs Joe goes....keep in that Joe (or Wade or Ray Ray or Kobe) can no longer "rest" on defense (the way they would do with Bogans)...and will spend the entire game chasing Rip through a multitude of screens.

The guy I miss more than Bogans is Kurt Thomas.

FCNATL85 · Post #15 » by **FCNATL85** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:32 pm

well, we are going with Willie Green. Better offensively, not sure about defense as he is only 6'3. Maybe can he help at the PG too ala Flip...
Let's hope he will be as good as Flip was for us, as this would cover for some scoring gone with JC1.
Pargo, Vlad, Green and TMac + Sy in another role + Zaza, Collins and alternance between Benson and Rolle...until Kirk is back.