Should the Hawks trade Josh Smith, what best return could we

[FCNATL85]

As a disclaimer, I would hope that the hawks would keep Josh but I am also realistic:

He is not happy
Team does not have sufficient assetts to move and rebuild around him and JJ

So I would go for a vet presence in the post and picks while cutting salary a bit
ATL
In: Gasol + #30 from GSW
Out: Smith (LAL) and Marvin (to GSW)

LAL
In: Smith and Biedrins +3M from GSW
Out: Gasol (ATL) and Roberts and 2nd (to GSW)

GSW
In: Marvin and Roberts
Out: Biedrins + #30 to ATL

ATL adds at
23: T Wroten, a high risk high rewards prospect...so was Josh Smith.Looking back, it paid off well for a #17
30: Ezeli, again high potential but will need time to develop. Immediate defensive impact.
43: hoping for Joseph to slid a bit. Could happen with Portland and Bucks ahead of us. Neither team needs (or would find) help at SF this late in the draft. If ATL plays it safe by drafting SF Taylor or Miller with 23, then they could go for SG K. English at 43.

JT- Pargo (resigned)- (FA) Dooling or Ivey
JJ- Green (resigned)- Wroten (23)
(FA) Wallace - K.Joseph (43)- Vladman (resigned)
Horford- Johnson- Vladman
Gasol- Zaza- Ezeli (30)

experienced starting 5. Proven bench with substarction of Marvin but addition of hungry players with Wroten/ Taylor, Ezeli, Joseph/ English.
One could even see us resigning T Mac rather than Vladman

[myrak433]

As a disclaimer, I would hope that the hawks would keep Josh but I am also realistic:

He is not happy
Team does not have sufficient assetts to move and rebuild around him and JJ

So I would go for a vet presence in the post and picks while cutting salary a bit
ATL
In: Gasol + #30 from GSW
Out: Smith (LAL) and Marvin (to GSW)

LAL
In: Smith and Biedrins +3M from GSW
Out: Gasol (ATL) and Roberts and 2nd (to GSW)

GSW
In: Marvin and Roberts
Out: Biedrins + #30 to ATL

ATL adds at
23: T Wroten, a high risk high rewards prospect...so was Josh Smith.Looking back, it paid off well for a #17
30: Ezeli, again high potential but will need time to develop. Immediate defensive impact.
43: hoping for Joseph to slid a bit. Could happen with Portland and Bucks ahead of us. Neither team needs (or would find) help at SF this late in the draft. If ATL plays it safe by drafting SF Taylor or Miller with 23, then they could go for SG K. English at 43.

JT- Pargo (resigned)- (FA) Dooling or Ivey
JJ- Green (resigned)- Wroten (23)
(FA) Wallace - K.Joseph (43)- Vladman (resigned)
Horford- Johnson- Vladman
Gasol- Zaza- Ezeli (30)

experienced starting 5. Proven bench with substarction of Marvin but addition of hungry players with Wroten/ Taylor, Ezeli, Joseph/ English.
One could even see us resigning T Mac rather than Vladman

that is not that realistic. 40 mil on two players Paul and JJ. I would be ok with it but it would be hard to fill out the rest of the roster.

[Superiorblogman]

I just don't see how we can keep Josh Smith and grow. Even if we amnesty Marvin next offseason we will be at $33.46 million with just 2 players under contract. Even if we simply pay Josh the same $12 million Al is getting we are at $45 million plus with just 3 players. In order to keep Josh and grow we would need to trade like Teague+Zaza for Trevor Ariza and # 10 PICK. That is about the only way we are going to be able to keep Josh and grow.

Sign a FA PG to mid-level exception A.Miller/Nash/Felton/select 1 at #23 T Wroten/Teague/Pargo
Joe/Willie Green
Josh/Ariza
Al/Marvin/Ivan
#10 pick Meyers Leonard/J Collins/2nd rd pick

So team is:

Andre Miller/Tony Wroten/Pargo
Joe/Willie Green
Josh/Ariza
Al/Marvin/Ivan
Meyers Leonard/Jason Collins/2nd rd pick

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=ccnuu2y

[MaceCase]

As a disclaimer, I would hope that the hawks would keep Josh but I am also realistic:

He is not happy
Team does not have sufficient assetts to move and rebuild around him and JJ

So I would go for a vet presence in the post and picks while cutting salary a bit
ATL
In: Gasol + #30 from GSW
Out: Smith (LAL) and Marvin (to GSW)

LAL
In: Smith and Biedrins +3M from GSW
Out: Gasol (ATL) and Roberts and 2nd (to GSW)

GSW
In: Marvin and Roberts
Out: Biedrins + #30 to ATL

ATL adds at
23: T Wroten, a high risk high rewards prospect...so was Josh Smith.Looking back, it paid off well for a #17
30: Ezeli, again high potential but will need time to develop. Immediate defensive impact.
43: hoping for Joseph to slid a bit. Could happen with Portland and Bucks ahead of us. Neither team needs (or would find) help at SF this late in the draft. If ATL plays it safe by drafting SF Taylor or Miller with 23, then they could go for SG K. English at 43.

JT- Pargo (resigned)- (FA) Dooling or Ivey
JJ- Green (resigned)- Wroten (23)
(FA) Wallace - K.Joseph (43)- Vladman (resigned)
Horford- Johnson- Vladman
Gasol- Zaza- Ezeli (30)

experienced starting 5. Proven bench with substarction of Marvin but addition of hungry players with Wroten/ Taylor, Ezeli, Joseph/ English.
One could even see us resigning T Mac rather than Vladman

that is not that realistic. 40 mil on two players Paul and JJ. I would be ok with it but it would be hard to fill out the rest of the roster.

There's about a half dozen if not more teams that already follow that model and fill out their roster so I don't see how it's not realistic. That's 18 mil in cap sanz capholds, 28 mil from the lux tax, 33 mil from the first lux tax raise, etc. etc. Add in that Pau is only on the books for 2 years whereas you'd be in a worse situation with Josh because his more than likely pay raise (which will be in the same neighborhood) will be for this 1 + 4 or 5 more years.

[Superiorblogman]

As a disclaimer, I would hope that the hawks would keep Josh but I am also realistic:

He is not happy
Team does not have sufficient assetts to move and rebuild around him and JJ

So I would go for a vet presence in the post and picks while cutting salary a bit
ATL
In: Gasol + #30 from GSW
Out: Smith (LAL) and Marvin (to GSW)

LAL
In: Smith and Biedrins +3M from GSW
Out: Gasol (ATL) and Roberts and 2nd (to GSW)

GSW
In: Marvin and Roberts
Out: Biedrins + #30 to ATL

ATL adds at
23: T Wroten, a high risk high rewards prospect...so was Josh Smith.Looking back, it paid off well for a #17
30: Ezeli, again high potential but will need time to develop. Immediate defensive impact.
43: hoping for Joseph to slid a bit. Could happen with Portland and Bucks ahead of us. Neither team needs (or would find) help at SF this late in the draft. If ATL plays it safe by drafting SF Taylor or Miller with 23, then they could go for SG K. English at 43.

JT- Pargo (resigned)- (FA) Dooling or Ivey
JJ- Green (resigned)- Wroten (23)
(FA) Wallace - K.Joseph (43)- Vladman (resigned)
Horford- Johnson- Vladman
Gasol- Zaza- Ezeli (30)

experienced starting 5. Proven bench with substarction of Marvin but addition of hungry players with Wroten/ Taylor, Ezeli, Joseph/ English.
One could even see us resigning T Mac rather than Vladman

that is not that realistic. 40 mil on two players Paul and JJ. I would be ok with it but it would be hard to fill out the rest of the roster.

I agree.

Joe-20
Gasol-20
Wallace-10
Horford-12
Teague-8

Your starting lineup costing you $70 million is what you are looking at in 2013-14.

[evildallas]

With Pau Gasol, Luol Deng, Andre Igoudala, and Rudy Gay on the trade block and Gerald Wallace, Brandon Bass, Jeff Green and Kevin Garnett in free agency is this a matter of bad timing for exploring trade options on Josh Smith? Deng, Gay and Igoudala are all more natural SFs at a similar price to Josh.

I just think so many teams are trying to sell players to get better cap situations that the Hawks are better off standing pat with Josh rather than sell him for cents on the dollar to get something.

[Andrew McCeltic]

As a Celtic fan, I'd do Pierce for Josh Smith/Williams, or Pierce to LAL, Gasol to ATL, Smith/MWill to Boston..

[Geaux_Hawks]

As a Celtic fan, I'd do Pierce for Josh Smith/Williams, or Pierce to LAL, Gasol to ATL, Smith/MWill to Boston..

Throw us one of your first and I'm down. Then again Gasol has a kicker..

[myrak433]

As a disclaimer, I would hope that the hawks would keep Josh but I am also realistic:

He is not happy
Team does not have sufficient assetts to move and rebuild around him and JJ

So I would go for a vet presence in the post and picks while cutting salary a bit
ATL
In: Gasol + #30 from GSW
Out: Smith (LAL) and Marvin (to GSW)

LAL
In: Smith and Biedrins +3M from GSW
Out: Gasol (ATL) and Roberts and 2nd (to GSW)

GSW
In: Marvin and Roberts
Out: Biedrins + #30 to ATL

ATL adds at
23: T Wroten, a high risk high rewards prospect...so was Josh Smith.Looking back, it paid off well for a #17
30: Ezeli, again high potential but will need time to develop. Immediate defensive impact.
43: hoping for Joseph to slid a bit. Could happen with Portland and Bucks ahead of us. Neither team needs (or would find) help at SF this late in the draft. If ATL plays it safe by drafting SF Taylor or Miller with 23, then they could go for SG K. English at 43.

JT- Pargo (resigned)- (FA) Dooling or Ivey
JJ- Green (resigned)- Wroten (23)
(FA) Wallace - K.Joseph (43)- Vladman (resigned)
Horford- Johnson- Vladman
Gasol- Zaza- Ezeli (30)

experienced starting 5. Proven bench with substarction of Marvin but addition of hungry players with Wroten/ Taylor, Ezeli, Joseph/ English.
One could even see us resigning T Mac rather than Vladman

that is not that realistic. 40 mil on two players Paul and JJ. I would be ok with it but it would be hard to fill out the rest of the roster.

There's about a half dozen if not more teams that already follow that model and fill out their roster so I don't see how it's not realistic. That's 18 mil in cap sanz capholds, 28 mil from the lux tax, 33 mil from the first lux tax raise, etc. etc. Add in that Pau is only on the books for 2 years whereas you'd be in a worse situation with Josh because his more than likely pay raise (which will be in the same neighborhood) will be for this 1 + 4 or 5 more years.

That simply is not true. Name the teams that have two players on their roster that salary adds up to 40 million that doesn’t have Kobe on the roster. Only the Knicks. And I can almost assure you that those team will have major problems next season. With the Lakers being the exception . You simply can’t pay that much for only two players when neither one is a superstar (gets super star treatment from the officiating) Kobe does, Melo does……. Joe Johnson does not, Gasol (if he was in Atlanta) would not.

[FCNATL85]

Here is another trade to do (dream off):

Smoothe and Justin harper to LA

Gasol, Marvin, Zaza and ATL 1st 2013

Howard, Turk and Eyenga (for cap purpose) to ATL if Howard is considering an extension!

ATL then turns around and trade JJ for D williams in a sign and trade with Brooklyn the in a second trade Brooks for JT with the same Brooklyn. Brooks is signed for 3 years so we have time before putting money down.

ATL resigns Pargo, T Mac, Collins and Green at the min while letting Hinrich go (8M in savings). ATL also signs Ivey as a 3rd string vet PG at min. ATL could also amnesty Turk and sign Wallace (2x 5-6M), the time that our draft pans out.

Deron - Pargo- Ivey (FA)
Brooks - Green, Tmac
Wallace - Harkless, P. Jones or Taylor at 23, Eyenga
Horford- I Johnson- Turk or Jones (if available)
Howard, Sims at 43, Collins

...and all that until Sund woke me-up and told me that we drafted Fab Melo at 23 and Shengelia at 43...(he would not make the team and we could save another 500K! yehee!)

[myrak433]

Here is another trade to do (dream off):

Smoothe and Justin harper to LA

Gasol, Marvin, Zaza and ATL 1st 2013

Howard, Turk and Eyenga (for cap purpose) to ATL if Howard is considering an extension!

ATL then turns around and trade JJ for D williams in a sign and trade with Brooklyn the in a second trade Brooks for JT with the same Brooklyn. Brooks is signed for 3 years so we have time before putting money down.

ATL resigns Pargo, T Mac, Collins and Green at the min while letting Hinrich go (8M in savings). ATL also signs Ivey as a 3rd string vet PG at min. ATL could also amnesty Turk and sign Wallace (2x 5-6M), the time that our draft pans out.

Deron - Pargo- Ivey (FA)
Brooks - Green, Tmac
Wallace - Harkless, P. Jones or Taylor at 23, Eyenga
Horford- I Johnson- Turk or Jones (if available)
Howard, Sims at 43, Collins

...and all that until Sund woke me-up and told me that we drafted Fab Melo at 23 and Shengelia at 43...(he would not make the team and we could save another 500K! yehee!)

First that would be a damn good trade for Atlanta. But I don’t think Brooklyn nor the Magic do this. Both can get better. You may be able to do Teague, JJ, and 2012 1st for D-Will. But you would have to add a lot more than Gasol, Marvin, Zaza, and Future first to get Howard. Besides I would imagine L.A. cuts us out and offers Bynum 2012, and 2014 first round picks and take Howard for them selves.

[MaceCase]

That simply is not true. Name the teams that have two players on their roster that salary adds up to 40 million that doesn’t have Kobe on the roster. Only the Knicks. And I can almost assure you that those team will have major problems next season. With the Lakers being the exception . You simply can’t pay that much for only two players when neither one is a superstar (gets super star treatment from the officiating) Kobe does, Melo does……. Joe Johnson does not, Gasol (if he was in Atlanta) would not.

Knicks, Heat, Boston then teams with two players at 35 million such as Memphis then OKC and Chicago who will be once their players non-rookie extensions kick in then teams such as the Nets, Clippers and Dallas that are looking precisely to add/retain 2 max salaries. A lot of living breathing examples for something that is supposedly not realistic especially considering that it's been the in chic defacto model that teams have been pursuing after the Boston big three got together and leading to the summer of the Decision. If you want to quibble over an amount less than an MLE deal for them not being exactly at 40 mil then keep in mind that Joe and Pau will only be 680K over 40 mil in the last year of Pau's deal, the previous season is only 38.2 mil. If you want to preface it now with guys getting superstar calls somehow affecting the team you build around them's salary....you can be my guest also but if you want to add any talent comparable or better to Joe you had better believe that you will be paying them close to Joe and yes that includes Josh unless it's also your belief that he doesn't want out of Atlanta, so much so that he's willing to take a paycut to ensure it.

[myrak433]

That simply is not true. Name the teams that have two players on their roster that salary adds up to 40 million that doesn’t have Kobe on the roster. Only the Knicks. And I can almost assure you that those team will have major problems next season. With the Lakers being the exception . You simply can’t pay that much for only two players when neither one is a superstar (gets super star treatment from the officiating) Kobe does, Melo does……. Joe Johnson does not, Gasol (if he was in Atlanta) would not.

Knicks, Heat, Boston then teams with two players at 35 million such as Memphis then OKC and Chicago who will be once their players non-rookie extensions kick in then teams such as the Nets, Clippers and Dallas that are looking precisely to add/retain 2 max salaries. A lot of living breathing examples for something that is supposedly not realistic especially considering that it's been the in chic defacto model that teams have been pursuing after the Boston big three got together and leading to the summer of the Decision. If you want to quibble over an amount less than an MLE deal for them not being exactly at 40 mil then keep in mind that Joe and Pau will only be 680K over 40 mil in the last year of Pau's deal, the previous season is only 38.2 mil. If you want to preface it now with guys getting superstar calls somehow affecting the team you build around them's salary....you can be my guest also but if you want to add any talent comparable or better to Joe you had better believe that you will be paying them close to Joe and yes that includes Josh unless it's also your belief that he doesn't want out of Atlanta, so much so that he's willing to take a paycut to ensure it.

Well I said the Knick and L.A where about the only two teams. Boston does not unless the resign KG to 23 million a year. Right now Pierce is their highest paid player at 16.8 mil. And Memphis highest two players are at 33 not 35, but even if they were at 35 that is still not 40. And OKC KD and Perkins are the highest paid players and they combine salaries are about 25.5 million. Now if and when they resign Westbrook he should be the 2nd highest player on the team and that 25.5 for the highest two players should go up to about 31 million. And as far as Chicago go I am not sure what they are going to do with Rose, but even if they pay him 20 mil a year that still will only be 35 mil a year for he and Boozer. And they are not liking it seems, that is why they are shopping Deng.
And as far as the Nets???? What are you talking about what rookie do they have would be worth a 10 year vet max deal? Because you don’t get 20 million a year on your first contract extension. You know that right? And who do the Nets have on that team that is worth that any way? Brook Lopez? Please. Marshon Brooks? LOL. But even if they were worth that: that is another 4 or 5 years from now and who is to say they will still be on the team? Same with the Clippers we are talking the year 2014 before they could have two players making 40 million that is two seasons from now….. you don’t know what could happen by then maybe Griffin gets hurt and never gets that contract. Is he even worth that? Is say no not at the moment he maybe by then though. Are CP3 could be traded again. We only can go by the 2012/13 season.

The Heat they have two of the best players on the planet. They are the exception to the rule but the highest two still don’t make 40m they are at 35 that is 5 mil less. How much more talent can you get on a team with 5 more million? Chris Bosh is not the best player on that team. Do you at least agree with that? But if he were on a team with let’s say Joe Johnson making 19.8 million and I don’t know Pau Gasol Making 19 million how much would be left for Bosh? That would be 13 Million if we follow the Heat model and paid our highest 3 players 52 million. Do you believe Bosh would be ok with making that much less than two players that he is better than?

And Josh will not get a Joe Johnson deal any where I am willing to bet a months worth of salary on that home boy. And Josh is my favorite player on this team.

[Jamaaliver]

At this point, I'm ready to part with Josh Smooth for cap space and a 1st rounder. Even a low one.

boston has two 1st rounders and a far amount of cap space. There's a good chance they go after Josh next summer anyway, to appease Rondo.

I say we trade Josh for the 22nd pick, Avery Bradley and change.

We can use the extra money from dumping Smooth to go after a Center and use the pick to provide cheap depth.

We might even be able to package both picks (after the draft?) and a player to get another player of consequence.

At this point, I'm in favor of using Smooth as a chip to improve long term whilst reloading the roster.

[MaceCase]

Well I said the Knick and L.A where about the only two teams. Boston does not unless the resign KG to 23 million a year. Right now Pierce is their highest paid player at 16.8 mil.

What is this goal post moving? So now that the salaries have expired we just ignore the entirety of the big three era? Ok.

And Memphis highest two players are at 33 not 35, but even if they were at 35 that is still not 40.

This is the upcoming combined salaries of Gay and ZBo over the length of their deals
33mil, 35.6 mil, 35.8 mil.
Like I said, you can quibble over an amount less than an MLE deal as though it makes all the difference in the world but then you'd also have to admit since, for some reason you're taking present tense in your critiques but then bitching about Joe and Pau two years from now, that Joe and Pau won't be exactly at 40 million either.... They'd be at 38.7, that is still not 40.

And OKC KD and Perkins are the highest paid players and they combine salaries are about 25.5 million. Now if and when they resign Westbrook he should be the 2nd highest player on the team and that 25.5 for the highest two players should go up to about 31 million.

Westbrook already signed an extension in January, the only two rookies they have left to extend are Harden (likely max as well) and Ibaka. After this season, Westbrook and Durant will have a combined salary over 31 mil culminating in 35.9 in the last year of Durant's current deal when he'll be 28 and up for an even bigger extension.

And as far as Chicago go I am not sure what they are going to do with Rose, but even if they pay him 20 mil a year that still will only be 35 mil a year for he and Boozer. And they are not liking it seems, that is why they are shopping Deng.

Rose already received an extension as well and it doesn't matter what they do with Deng, they'd still be paying Rose and Boozer 30 mil combined starting this upcoming season culminating at 34.6 in 3 seasons. Yes, that's even if they amnesty him because add another team, Orlando still paid Dwight and Arenas 37.3 mil last season and will pay 40.3 mil next season to the two even though Gilbert isn't on their roster anymore.

And as far as the Nets???? What are you talking about what rookie do they have would be worth a 10 year vet max deal? Because you don’t get 20 million a year on your first contract extension. You know that right? And who do the Nets have on that team that is worth that any way? Brook Lopez? Please. Marshon Brooks? LOL. But even if they were worth that: that is another 4 or 5 years from now and who is to say they will still be on the team? Same with the Clippers we are talking the year 2014 before they could have two players making 40 million that is two seasons from now….. you don’t know what could happen by then maybe Griffin gets hurt and never gets that contract. Is he even worth that? Is say no not at the moment he maybe by then though. Are CP3 could be traded again. We only can go by the 2012/13 season.

Did you forget Deron Williams for some reason? Have you been in a cave the past two years or something where you've missed the whole Dwight and Deron teaming up in Brooklyn fiasco? How much do you think Dwight and Deron will cost and again......If you want to be such an Anal Andy about the years when these deals will happen why are you bitching about what Joe and Pau will make 2 years from now? Oh you're a hypocrite? Gotcha.

The Heat they have two of the best players on the planet. They are the exception to the rule but the highest two still don’t make 40m they are at 35 that is 5 mil less. How much more talent can you get on a team with 5 more million? Chris Bosh is not the best player on that team. Do you at least agree with that? But if he were on a team with let’s say Joe Johnson making 19.8 million and I don’t know Pau Gasol Making 19 million how much would be left for Bosh? That would be 13 Million if we follow the Heat model and paid our highest 3 players 52 million. Do you believe Bosh would be ok with making that much less than two players that he is better than?

Here is the Heat salary of their top two PAID players for the length of their deals 35mil, 38.12, 41.18, 44.22. To answer your question on how much more can you get for 5 mil? 5 Eric Dampiers.....nothing else, it's less than an MLE deal. If the team is paying tax then they don't even have that 5 mil they have 3. Why are we moving the goal posts again? Why is the team trying to add a 3rd max....stay on topic please.

And Josh will not get a Joe Johnson deal any where I am willing to bet a months worth of salary on that home boy. And Josh is my favorite player on this team.

If Josh even gets a deal that pays him just 15 mil flat that's going to put the team in the same situation you keep fearing about......or keep waffling about where it has to be 40 mil exactly, and this past season even though you are bitching about a season two seasons from now and the team can't get a 3rd max, ay yi yi. Too early for tap dancing. Either way, you don't pay Joe Johnson 124 million dollars and then decide to go cheap on the rest of the roster unless the ASG has gotten fans to buy into their stupidity.

[myrak433]

MaceCase you are being a little ignorant. the only point you really got me on was that this up coming season JJ and Gasol's combine salary will be 38.7 not 40. but you see replacing Gasol with Josh will not make the Hawks a better team. the problem with this team is it is already too soft. so why would we increase our payroll and get softer? If Bynum and Gasol can't get it done why in the hell do you believe Gasol and Horford can.

I am not going to keep doing this whole break down of my points and your points. but I will do a few.

what about the Nets? you ask. yes they have D-Will, who else do they have? Dwight? LOL? he is not coming to the Nets. But even if he did those two together would still be better than Gasol and JJ. you see I am not saying that no team will ever have two players making that kind of money, but usually they are a better combination of players than Gasol and JJ.

[MaceCase]

Here is the point you are tragically missing.

As Long As Joe Johnson Is A Hawk You Will Have To Spend Money If Your Intention Is To Win.


Any team you field will have a high payroll because you are already paying 124 million dollars to one man. You do not sign one man to that amount and then start bitching and making up stories about how it's impossible to add a second max or close to max salary next to him.

It is the defacto model that nearly every team is following either currently or is pursuing. I don't care about your opinions on whether it is a good team or if the Nets/Dallas/Clipper/Miami/Knicks/Lakers/Magic/Celtics plan works/worked/will work. You are just tap dancing around your statement and trying to offer so many caveats over something that is factual and not at all prevented by the CBA.

There is no skating around that, my opinion is that this team is not going anywhere with Joe at that salary, that's my opinion. I cannot state it as fact though that the team will not go anywhere because of his salary because that is actually false. There are zero limitations set by the rules and no lack of precedents to prove that it has never been done. The only thing standing in the way is the willingness of the owners because that deal is cap neutral in the first year and only adds 11.78 mil in payroll in 2013 (less than it would cost to resign Josh) but please, Myrak. Tell me how ignorant I am over this.

[Jamaaliver]

If Bynum and Gasol can't get it done why in the hell do you believe Gasol and Horford can.

Bynum and Gasol won the Western Conference 3 times in the last 5 years. Bynum and Gasol won two titles in the last 4 years.

I'd say they got it done just fine.

[Jamaaliver]

And for that matter, Gasol and Horford would be the best Frontcourt in the Eastern Conference.

We'd at least have an advantage against CHI, Miami, NYK in that regards...

[HMFFL]

If we can get Pau Gasol, I say we go for it, but I only expect us to acquire draft picks if we end up trading Josh Smith.