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Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:52 am
by ACE_reppin_ATL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K-EKA_vwOU

He looks pretty agile/athletic for a 7'er and he would be a great defensive big next to Horford and hopefully Josh. This would definitely be a strong defensive front court with tons of athleticism and energy.

C - Fab Melo: physical, defensive big that plays with energy and doesn't need a lot of shots
PF - Horford: at his natural position could bully most PFs inside and stretch the floor with MED jumpers
SF - should be able to slash and cut, easily post up most SFs, and also help dominate boards

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:20 am
by Superiorblogman
ACE_reppin_ATL wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K-EKA_vwOU

He looks pretty agile/athletic for a 7'er and he would be a great defensive big next to Horford and hopefully Josh. This would definitely be a strong defensive front court with tons of athleticism and energy.

C - Fab Melo: physical, defensive big that plays with energy and doesn't need a lot of shots
PF - Horford: at his natural position could bully most PFs inside and stretch the floor with MED jumpers
SF - should be able to slash and cut, easily post up most SFs, and also help dominate boards


Fab Melo is a 2nd rd talent and should be picked where he belongs if he falls to #43 then yep #23 nope

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:51 am
by myrak433
Superiorblogman wrote:
ACE_reppin_ATL wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K-EKA_vwOU

He looks pretty agile/athletic for a 7'er and he would be a great defensive big next to Horford and hopefully Josh. This would definitely be a strong defensive front court with tons of athleticism and energy.

C - Fab Melo: physical, defensive big that plays with energy and doesn't need a lot of shots
PF - Horford: at his natural position could bully most PFs inside and stretch the floor with MED jumpers
SF - should be able to slash and cut, easily post up most SFs, and also help dominate boards


Fab Melo is a 2nd rd talent and should be picked where he belongs if he falls to #43 then yep #23 nope


why do you believe he is only a 2nd round talent?

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:15 am
by Superiorblogman
Look at his career averages at Cuse. I can not get excited about a guy that averaged 5 pts and 4 rebs in college. On top of that he was so selfish that he let his laziness get in the way of his team possibly winning it all by not taking care of his business. Him getting hurt today in the workout should be the last sign the Hawks need :lol: Sorry man


Fab Melo (Syracuse, C, 7-0, 244)

Brazilian-born big man was Big East Defensive Player of the Year at Syracuse as a sophomore last season … he ranked first on the team in rebounding (5.8), blocks (2.9) and field goal percentage (.566) last year, scoring 7.8 ppg … set a school record with 10 rejections vs. Seton Hall … In his freshman year, put in 2.3 ppg and 1.9 rpg, appearing in 33 contests … played for Brazil’s national team in the 2011 World University Games … CAREER TOTALS – 4.9 points, 3.8 rebounds and 1.8 blocks (.576 FG%, .553 FT%).

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:16 pm
by MaceCase
Melo actually got hurt pretty early in the Hawks workout going up against the stronger Ezeli.

http://www.scoreatl.com/stories/ezeli-m ... ess-hawks/

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:57 pm
by Ruhiel
I thought Ezeli was the smart but soft one. Turns out Fab Melo is the soft one. And SBL is right he sure looks like 2nd round talent and Ezeli looks like the man. Sounds like a 7 foot Okafor.
Ezeli came in and was impressive with his physical stature and strength in the post. His defensive presence down low is noticeable immediately as he commands the paint and is strong enough to deal with even the most physical of centers. His lateral movement is good and he will have to get used to consistently guarding pick-and-rolls, a staple of the pro game not seen as much in college. Offensively, Festus is raw and only really possesses one strong offensive move and will need to improve as a mid-range shooter.

“He’s a stud,” said Drew. “Big, strong kid. Very powerful down low. Very intriguing because of size and his raw-ness, he’s a very powerful kid.”

Drew feels Ezeli can transition into the NBA game defensively and thinks he moves well enough to get out on pick-and-rolls.

“He moves pretty well,” said Drew. “He’s going to see more pick-and-roll than he’s ever seen in his life, but the volume of pick-and-rolls in the NBA these guys are just going to have to get used to it and have to be prepared to make adjustments. He looks mobile enough to get out and defend the screen or even trap it.”

About his offensive game, assistant GM Dave Pendergraft discussed how raw Ezeli is, but that there are some strengths he possesses that can be developed.

“[Ezeli] has an unbelievable right-hand half hook,” said Pendergraft. ”That’s his go-to move, and that’s NBA-like. He shoots that as well as any NBA 6-foot-10 player. If he gets to the sweet spot on the court and can go over that shoulder it’s good. Now outside of that he is somewhat limited. I think maybe in time he can develop a 15-footer. Probably needs to get a counter to that right-hand hook first, but he’s not as rough around the edges as he was as he matriculated through his college career.”

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:59 pm
by Ruhiel
Al Horford: “We have the 23rd pick and I know the team will draft the best player available. I would like to pick a shooter like Kentucky’s Doron Lamb. But it wouldn’t bother me if they picked a big who could help me like Festus Ezeli (Vanderbilt). Anyway, I doubt they will pick Jeff Teague’s brother, Marquis Teague.”

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:33 pm
by FCNATL85
No surprise Ezeli will probably be our first pick if we stay at 23 and there is no major trades!

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:05 pm
by Geaux_Hawks
If Ezeli is really that strong and his hook shot is that impressive, then he really needs to be our pick. With our team, he can develop his offensive game later as we don't need it. As long as he can hit that hook shot and grab some garbage buckets, then he is fine. I always liked him on defense.

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:16 pm
by Superiorblogman
Personally, I feel Fab and Festus are both second round picks and we should take a player that can actually play the game at a high level in the 1st.

We need to move up and get Drummond if we want a C that can really help for years. Tyler Zeller does not protect the rim but he is more of a player than either Fab or Festus as far as just playing the game. These foreign guys grow big then decide basketball is there best shot and really lack the skill set

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:01 pm
by Geaux_Hawks
Superiorblogman wrote:Personally, I feel Fab and Festus are both second round picks and we should take a player that can actually play the game at a high level in the 1st.

We need to move up and get Drummond if we want a C that can really help for years. Tyler Zeller does not protect the rim but he is more of a player than either Fab or Festus as far as just playing the game. These foreign guys grow big then decide basketball is there best shot and really lack the skill set

The same second round talent that ends up becoming Asik or Marc Gasol.

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:54 pm
by Superiorblogman
Geaux_Hawks wrote:
Superiorblogman wrote:Personally, I feel Fab and Festus are both second round picks and we should take a player that can actually play the game at a high level in the 1st.

We need to move up and get Drummond if we want a C that can really help for years. Tyler Zeller does not protect the rim but he is more of a player than either Fab or Festus as far as just playing the game. These foreign guys grow big then decide basketball is there best shot and really lack the skill set

The same second round talent that ends up becoming Asik or Marc Gasol.


Weak argument just because we can all point to several second round successes does not mean you should reach on someone that is severely limited and more things point towards them failing to be a good pick at guaranteed money than not

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:25 pm
by myrak433
Geaux_Hawks wrote:
Superiorblogman wrote:Personally, I feel Fab and Festus are both second round picks and we should take a player that can actually play the game at a high level in the 1st.

We need to move up and get Drummond if we want a C that can really help for years. Tyler Zeller does not protect the rim but he is more of a player than either Fab or Festus as far as just playing the game. These foreign guys grow big then decide basketball is there best shot and really lack the skill set

The same second round talent that ends up becoming Asik or Marc Gasol.


Hell I would even take DeAndre Jordan, Luis Scola, Anderson Varejao, or Marcin Gortat 2nd round kind of Talent with our 23rd 1st round pick!!!!!!!!!!

or should we just take the first round talent like we have in the past like Acie Law or Shelden Williams?

you can't base everything off of college stats and where the mock drafts have them SBM. if so guys like Sean May or Adam Morrison would have been the next Charles Barkley and Larry Bird.

THINK ABOUT IT superblogman

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:45 pm
by Superiorblogman
myrak433 wrote:
Geaux_Hawks wrote:
Superiorblogman wrote:Personally, I feel Fab and Festus are both second round picks and we should take a player that can actually play the game at a high level in the 1st.

We need to move up and get Drummond if we want a C that can really help for years. Tyler Zeller does not protect the rim but he is more of a player than either Fab or Festus as far as just playing the game. These foreign guys grow big then decide basketball is there best shot and really lack the skill set

The same second round talent that ends up becoming Asik or Marc Gasol.


Hell I would even take DeAndre Jordan, Luis Scola, Anderson Varejao, or Marcin Gortat 2nd round kind of Talent with our 23rd 1st round pick!!!!!!!!!!

or should we just take the first round talent like we have in the past like Acie Law or Shelden Williams?

you can't base everything off of college stats and where the mock drafts have them SBM. if so guys like Sean May or Adam Morrison would have been the next Charles Barkley and Larry Bird.

THINK ABOUT IT superblogman


Not everything is based off of college stats. Sheldon had poor lateral movement and the same for Acie. I have stated several times me dislike for Fab's none rebounding ass. I have stated the same for Festus non rebounding ass. Keep on talking about think about it like that is going to hurt my feelings. I hope you are man enough to admit it 3 years from now when Fab and Festus are not even with there original teams because they are so inefficient they may have long careers just because of big bodies but neither will even be Eric Dampier in his prime. If either one is what Collins is now you got lucky.

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:38 am
by myrak433
superblogman wrote""
Not everything is based off of college stats. Sheldon had poor lateral movement and the same for Acie. I have stated several times me dislike for Fab's none rebounding ass. I have stated the same for Festus non rebounding ass. Keep on talking about think about it like that is going to hurt my feelings. I hope you are man enough to admit it 3 years from now when Fab and Festus are not even with there original teams because they are so inefficient they may have long careers just because of big bodies but neither will even be Eric Dampier in his prime. If either one is what Collins is now you got lucky.


hurt your feelings???/ I hope you are not sensitive enough for me to hurt your feelings.... I was merely trying to illiterate the fact that stats don't tell the whole story of a prospect. why do you think many NBA GM's don't get it right all the time? we need size shot blocking and low post scoring.... will Fab or Festus give that? I don't know but we need it. I do know that Zaza doesn't give us any of that. neither does Collins or Horford. and it seems we have been unable to address this in free agency. so why not take a flier on a low first round pick. or a 2nd round pick .
I still say we draft Royce White, Tony Wroten, Fab, or Festus with the first round pick in that order. then try for Draymond Green, Kyle Q'Quinn, Henry Sims, Kris Joseph, or Robert Sacre in that order.

wish we could get Royce and Wroten though. I feel one of those will turn out to be a star...... notice I didn't say superstar but they could.

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:19 pm
by evildallas
Per 40 minutes the different in rebounding between Ezeli and Drummond was 1 Offensive rebound. And that was with Ezeli dealing with a knee injury. If you compare Ezeli's Jr year to Drummond's 1 year they were essentially the same per 40 minutes. Drummond is a physical specimen who's only red flag is a questionable desire/work ethic, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Ezeli just because his per game numbers appear low.

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:57 pm
by FCNATL85
Guys are you done. Bottom line is that if we do not trade up to get Drummond, some kind of a risk,
I stil thin that we could get a decent back-up C who might end up a starter or a big mistake 3 years from now. I prefer Ezeli' s physicality to start with...Ivan 3 inches taller.

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:33 pm
by Superiorblogman
FCNATL85 wrote:Guys are you done. Bottom line is that if we do not trade up to get Drummond, some kind of a risk,
I stil thin that we could get a decent back-up C who might end up a starter or a big mistake 3 years from now. I prefer Ezeli' s physicality to start with...Ivan 3 inches taller.


Are you or anyone else done that is calling for Fab or Festus because it is obvious you don't get how to run anything. You have to 1st and foremost select a NBA caliber talent and neither of these two guys are that. End of story. Select a NBA caliber talent and player.

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:13 pm
by Ruhiel
FCNATL85 wrote:Guys are you done. Bottom line is that if we do not trade up to get Drummond, some kind of a risk,
I stil thin that we could get a decent back-up C who might end up a starter or a big mistake 3 years from now. I prefer Ezeli' s physicality to start with...Ivan 3 inches taller.


Exactly.

Re: Fab Melo working out

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:34 pm
by Geaux_Hawks
Superiorblogman wrote:
FCNATL85 wrote:Guys are you done. Bottom line is that if we do not trade up to get Drummond, some kind of a risk,
I stil thin that we could get a decent back-up C who might end up a starter or a big mistake 3 years from now. I prefer Ezeli' s physicality to start with...Ivan 3 inches taller.


Are you or anyone else done that is calling for Fab or Festus because it is obvious you don't get how to run anything. You have to 1st and foremost select a NBA caliber talent and neither of these two guys are that. End of story. Select a NBA caliber talent and player.

Dude stop living by stats. Adam Morrison, johnny flynn, Anthony Randolph, etc all look good in college, but now they don't..