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J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:56 pm
by PandaKidd
Josh Smith is entering the final year of his contract with the Hawks but it is “unlikely” that he will be re-signed before the end of the upcoming season.

“I’ve been clear that I value Josh as a player,” Hawks general manager Danny Ferry said. “He has worked hard this summer and I believe he is going to have great season. I’ve been in contact with his representatives. Josh and his representatives have been clear that he is excited about the direction of the team and wants to be part of the future in Atlanta. That being said, I don’t expect the contract situation to be resolved until next summer.”

After the 2012-13 season, Smith will be eligible for a five-year extension worth about $120 million



Ferry signaling he is not going to sign him to an extension this year. Not terribly earth shattering news, but I think this is the end of the line for Josh. Unless he puts up astronomical numbers, I dont see how we keep him. hes certainly NOT signing a 5 year 120 million dollar contract? 20+ million a year? Surely not, i see Smith as like a 10-15 million a year guy, not 20-25million (THATS KOBE MONEY).

Thoughts?

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:41 pm
by dms269
Very misleading title.

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:23 pm
by PandaKidd
how? He will not be resigned THIS year. Many people thought they would resign Smith to a long term deal before next summer.

Ferry answered that question saying "i doubt it"

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:43 pm
by MaceCase
I don't know anyone who thought he'd be extended this season considering that it's been discussed ad naseum that he's in the same boat as Dwight and Paul.

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:50 pm
by GrimeyKidd
Hes NOT saying he wont resign him. Ferry is just saying that he wont sign him to early. Josh has to prove himself and also this is a money play tactic. Ferry wants to see if he can build a little bit in FA before giving Josh and Max contract.

Ferry just doesnt wanna commit the same mistake our former gm did with joe johnson

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:01 pm
by PandaKidd
ive never heard Ferry publicly state that he wasnt even considering a contract extension during this upcoming season.

Sorry

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:56 pm
by GrimeyKidd
Ive recently read that ferry is saying this to push Josh Smith to all star level

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:11 pm
by Jamaaliver
Financially it just doesn't benefit either side to re-up right now. I'm stil holding out hope for a trade. I think Josh could do big things if traded to a team like OKC.

This feels like a throw away season. Next year is when things get real. New coach, big free agent signing. (Hopefully)

Just hoping we don't embarrass ourselves this year like we did last season.

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:35 am
by dtown8
the article and quotes in it, makes it sound like Ferry wants to resign him now, but Josh is refusing and just going to wait until the summer.

no big news, that is just the nature of the NBA now a days after what happen with Bosh, Wade, Deron, CP, Dwight, Bynum

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:09 pm
by ATL Boy
Why would Josh resign right now? When right now the most he can get is a 3 year contract where as he can get 5 in the offseason, Josh wants long term and financial security, he can't get that if he resigns midseason. No need to look too much into this guys, it's just a case of Josh looking for security

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:08 pm
by HMFFL
Danny Ferry knows it's pointless to even off Josh Smith a contract extension right now. Josh should have a career year, and will be able to maximize his earnings/years, by waiting until the end of the season.

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Mon Oct 1, 2012 10:10 pm
by HMFFL
Chris Vivlamore: #Hawks' Josh Smith on whether GM Danny Ferry's assessment of his contract status was correct: "We are on the same page." Twitter @ajchawks

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Tue Oct 2, 2012 1:50 am
by GrimeyKidd
In other words Josh is gonna play his butt off for that contract

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Tue Oct 2, 2012 6:57 pm
by Rip2137
Jamaaliver wrote:Financially it just doesn't benefit either side to re-up right now. I'm stil holding out hope for a trade. I think Josh could do big things if traded to a team like OKC.

This feels like a throw away season. Next year is when things get real. New coach, big free agent signing. (Hopefully)

Just hoping we don't embarrass ourselves this year like we did last season.


How did the team embarrass itself last season again?

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Wed Oct 3, 2012 2:15 am
by Jamaaliver
Rip2137 wrote:How did the team embarrass itself last season again?


Pretty much any time we played on national TV in the regular season.

Jan 3rd: The Hawks jump out to a 12 point halftime lead on CHI and completely dominate the first half. Only to see us completely fall apart in the 4th quarter. We had allowed 42 points through 3 quarters and led by 14. Then we allow 34 points in the fourth and lose by a bucket in the last minute. (NBATV)

Jan 5th: We lost to the Heat with our full roster even though Lebron and D-Wade sat out due to injury. Barkley and the TNT analysts ripped us a new one for the team's lackidaisical play. (TNT)

Feb 20th: On a Monday afternoon game on ESPN against the Bulls, we came out flat and were down 18 points after the first quarter. We would recover in the 2nd half to 'only' lose by 11.

There's a reason noone takes our team seriously. We embarrass ourselves every time we get a national audience.

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Fri Oct 5, 2012 9:44 pm
by NeZoRiL
Danny seemed to enjoy Josh Smith's game, praising him in a few articles I read. I do understand that the odds of Josh Smith staying are low, but I think Ferry is flip flopping right now. I for one, would love to see Josh stay in Atlanta, but if Danny Ferry has a plan for the Hawks to free up cap space and move completely forward, then that's acceptable too. The ball is in his court.

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:37 am
by Stebo_SSK
Anybody believe Smith is really worth a Max deal?

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:12 am
by Geaux_Hawks
Stebo_SSK wrote:Anybody believe Smith is really worth a Max deal?

Me personally, I can see him settling at 10-12 million over 5 years. Really don't see him worth more unless he stays inside and goes ape **** with 20+ ppg, 10 rpg, 2+ bpg, and 3+ apg. Would really like to see him continue doing what he did last year during that stretch where he averaged 24/10/4.5/2/1.5. Match that with Horford, and the newly added shooters and Atlanta can make a run.

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:20 pm
by LewisnotMiller
Celts fan here. Not trying to stir anything up (honestly), but the whole 'non-extension' thing did get fans on our boards thinking about trying to trade for Smith.

In terms of what we should offer (that would be fair and realistic) the options put forward seems wildly spread. He's just one of those guys who divides opinion, I guess.

Anyways, interested in;

1) If offered a decent package, would you think it's a good move to trade him rather than risk him walking? (based on what I've read, there is still a decent chance he'd resign with Atlanta...I think...?)

2) What type of package would you consider decent? Not so much interested in names, as what would you be looking for (eg. lottery pick and a young swingman, or A centre, so Horford can play PF, plus whatever...etc)

Re: J Smoov NOT to be given an extension this year.......

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:50 pm
by maljanNBAfan
Geaux_Hawks wrote:
Stebo_SSK wrote:Anybody believe Smith is really worth a Max deal?

Me personally, I can see him settling at 10-12 million over 5 years. Really don't see him worth more unless he stays inside and goes ape **** with 20+ ppg, 10 rpg, 2+ bpg, and 3+ apg. Would really like to see him continue doing what he did last year during that stretch where he averaged 24/10/4.5/2/1.5. Match that with Horford, and the newly added shooters and Atlanta can make a run.


Nicely put. I would also like to see him continue on the path that he was on last year. Talk about a stretch! :D