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The Bynum situation

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:34 pm
by ATL Boy
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There's a chance that Andrew Bynum misses the entire season with knee surgery, or that he misses 4-6 months without needing surgery. What has this situation thought us:

1: This trade has bitten Philly in the butt, they traded their best player and some young prospects/picks for Bynum (at first it was a steal for the 76ers) but now it turns out that Bynum might not play a single game for Philly.

2: No team is going to risk giving him a max contract this offseason.

So I ask, would you take a chance on Bynum and his knees if he came at a reasonable salary for a reasonable amount of years (say 4 years 48 million)?

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:28 pm
by Jamaaliver
What's ironic is that Philly fans were overwhelmingly glad to see Iguadala leave.

Their best player wasn't an elite scorer and (in their estimation) was overpaid. They even booed him when he returned last week with Denver.

Sound familiar? Somehow Orlando AND Philly got screwed in the Dwight Howard trade.

I'd consider Bynum next summer for a modest contract if we had no other options and he passed a physical.
He is young, is a 2x NBA champion and at $12 mill would be a bargain. If he were to avg 15 ppg and 7 rpg he'd be matching Smoove's production whilst providing interior defense.

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:47 pm
by RdGzKP
The Sixers traded their best player and still are every bit as good without him.Jrue Holiday has now emerged as a nice pg to build around and Evan Turner now appears to be able to an asset as well.Meanwhile Iggy is doin what? The usual..nothing spectacular .the Sixers made out just fine here with or without Bynum

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:59 am
by ATL Boy
RdGzKP wrote:The Sixers traded their best player and still are every bit as good without him.Jrue Holiday has now emerged as a nice pg to build around and Evan Turner now appears to be able to an asset as well.Meanwhile Iggy is doin what? The usual..nothing spectacular .the Sixers made out just fine here with or without Bynum

You can't compare this year's team to last year's team just yet, it's only been 9 games into the season and you can't say that Philly wouldn't be a better team right now with Iggy as opposed to without him. Igoudala was Philly's best player and bashing him won't change that. It is safe to say that Philly did lose the Howard trade because they gave up their best player and prospects (such as first round pick Moe Harkless) for someone that might not even play a game for them.

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:29 am
by Rip2137
Defensively they aren't as good either with Iggy and the VERY underrated Brand. Plus I don't think any team that depends on Nick Young for anything will succeed

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:35 am
by RdGzKP
Its easy to sit there and praise guys getting $16mil per on a .500 team if ur not a fan of the team.The Sixers were going nowhere with that group so they broke the team up.At the end of the season we will have the same result either a 1st rd exit or 2nd ..Having a center can change that result.Having Iggy will not

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:45 am
by ATL Boy
RdGzKP wrote:Its easy to sit there and praise guys getting $16mil per on a .500 team if ur not a fan of the team.The Sixers were going nowhere with that group so they broke the team up.At the end of the season we will have the same result either a 1st rd exit or 2nd ..Having a center can change that result.Having Iggy will not

Philly would still be a better team with Iggy, and I think they'd rather have Iggy and Harkless than an injured Bynum.

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:54 am
by RdGzKP
Y do u think that tho? Iggy is not that good.His lack of offense takes away from his defense.If he holds his man to 15-20 n as our best player can't score 20 how would we win? We took a gamble with Bynum and so far no good.But Jason Richardson is scoring similar to iggy he was part of the trade.Jrue is playing better without Iggy and so is Turner and Nick young is a great bonus when he's hot like Lou Will.either way iggy is not worth all that money so he'll be available next off-season U take him

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:10 am
by MaceCase
Bring Drew and Oden in for a workout. Whoever can walk after 10 minutes gets signed.

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:38 am
by ATL Boy
RdGzKP wrote:Y do u think that tho? Iggy is not that good.His lack of offense takes away from his defense.If he holds his man to 15-20 n as our best player can't score 20 how would we win? We took a gamble with Bynum and so far no good.But Jason Richardson is scoring similar to iggy he was part of the trade.Jrue is playing better without Iggy and so is Turner and Nick young is a great bonus when he's hot like Lou Will.either way iggy is not worth all that money so he'll be available next off-season U take him

But Bynum is making the same amount of money as Iggy this season and Bynum is hurt all season, the reason Jrue, and Turner are better this season is because they're young players that are progressing, they'll be better next season than they are this season, they're young they get better with age. Philly would be better with Iggy because Igoudala isn't a ball dominant player, he isn't a Joe Johnson or Kobe type player who has to shoot 30 times a game, he gets others involved and is a very good defender. It's better to pay Iggy 16 mil for his production than to pay Bynum 16 mil for no production

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:55 am
by RdGzKP
Up until this year we had no shooters..so what good is a offensive facilitator on a team that needs a man determined to score. He has the talent to be that guy but never was.And if the end result is still a .500 team what's the difference on having iggy vs not having Bynum? There is none except Iggy has a player option for next year and Bynum doesn't..money off the books

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:40 am
by Jamaaliver
RdGzKP wrote:The Sixers traded their best player and still are every bit as good without him.the Sixers made out just fine here with or without Bynum


eh, The 76ers are 7-3 through ten games this year while avg 91 ppg.

Last season, they were also 7-3 through ten games, but were avg 99 ppg through that point.

Your defense keeps you guys competitive, but offensively you guys are well behind last year's team.

Clearly the loss of Brand, Louis and Iggy has affected the team's ability to score buckets.

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:48 am
by ATL Boy
RdGzKP wrote:Up until this year we had no shooters..so what good is a offensive facilitator on a team that needs a man determined to score. He has the talent to be that guy but never was.And if the end result is still a .500 team what's the difference on having iggy vs not having Bynum? There is none except Iggy has a player option for next year and Bynum doesn't..money off the books

You can't possibly think that Iggy is worthless

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:09 am
by RdGzKP
ATL Boy wrote:
RdGzKP wrote:Up until this year we had no shooters..so what good is a offensive facilitator on a team that needs a man determined to score. He has the talent to be that guy but never was.And if the end result is still a .500 team what's the difference on having iggy vs not having Bynum? There is none except Iggy has a player option for next year and Bynum doesn't..money off the books

You can't possibly think that Iggy is worthless


Depends on your goal..for the Sixers moving forward..his contract demands will have gone up since he had all-star/Olympics so if u think by locking him up to a deal anywhere near what he was making would help out the future ur crazy.We were more than 1 player away from competing for a ring and if u think we could afford to add more pieces to the puzzle while payin him the max ur wrong


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Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:51 am
by ATL Boy
RdGzKP wrote:
ATL Boy wrote:
RdGzKP wrote:Up until this year we had no shooters..so what good is a offensive facilitator on a team that needs a man determined to score. He has the talent to be that guy but never was.And if the end result is still a .500 team what's the difference on having iggy vs not having Bynum? There is none except Iggy has a player option for next year and Bynum doesn't..money off the books

You can't possibly think that Iggy is worthless


Depends on your goal..for the Sixers moving forward..his contract demands will have gone up since he had all-star/Olympics so if u think by locking him up to a deal anywhere near what he was making would help out the future ur crazy.We were more than 1 player away from competing for a ring and if u think we could afford to add more pieces to the puzzle while payin him the max ur wrong


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Iggy won't make the max, he may have been on the olympic team but he won't be maxed out due to his numbers, but he was worth more to the 76ers than his numbers showed. What I'm looking at with this trade (as with all trades) is was this worth it for Philly, and it wasn't worth it, they gave Iggy for Bynum who might not play at all this season and whose contract might expire without him ever playing in a Philly uniform. You're worried about contracts, well Philly also inherited Jason Richardson's bad contract in that trade and while he may be doing well now through the first 9 games but he's 31 years old and is signed in to a 3 year contract where he's making 5.7 million this season, and over 6 mil the next 2 seasons; J-Rich is a bad contract you got from this trade. Bynum is probably doing nothing this season and making 16 mil, Iggy is actually producing and he's making 16 mil; you say that it's not worth it to keep Iggy because he has a player option for next season but next season he'll be an expiring if he exercises it and you could've gotten a nice package for an expiring Iggy. Although the way you and other Philly fans (like the ones who booed him) are under appreciating him I'm not sure that he would've even exercised the option to come back to Philly. I think it's disgraceful how sixers fans booed him after all he did for yall.

You Philly fans could learn something from Detroit fans:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzWziFgdBAo[/youtube]

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:45 am
by RdGzKP
Lol so $6 mil a year is a bad contract even tho next year its an expiring contract.so If I'm following that logic than Lou Will at $5 for 3 is a bad deal since they r giving similar production

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:39 pm
by ATL Boy
RdGzKP wrote:Lol so $6 mil a year is a bad contract even tho next year its an expiring contract.so If I'm following that logic than Lou Will at $5 for 3 is a bad deal since they r giving similar production

It's not an expiring contract next season he's locked in for 3 more years, and they're giving similar production NOW, it's only been 10 games into the season and Lou is the 4th option on the team behind Smith, Horford, and Teague. You also disregard the age factor, Lou is only 25 and entering his prime and Richardson is 31 and past his prime, you can't base your logic on a 10 game span

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:22 pm
by RdGzKP
My fault u r correct about Jrich's contract..but it's really not that much money that'll change anything..N Lou came straight from HS..so its he's not a baby out there still getting better everyday..he's been who he is for the last few years now.14 pts n maybe 4 assists

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:41 pm
by ATL Boy
RdGzKP wrote:My fault u r correct about Jrich's contract..but it's really not that much money that'll change anything..N Lou came straight from HS..so its he's not a baby out there still getting better everyday..he's been who he is for the last few years now.14 pts n maybe 4 assists

I'd be thrilled with 14 points per game off the bench, especially for the MLE, that's good enough to consistently have him in the 6th man of the year race

Re: The Bynum situation

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:27 am
by Yungsta404
No even if bynum is healthy I wouldnt give him a max contract. He doesnt have the maturity, passion, or work ethic to be a true number 1.

Him being injure prone makes the contract Five times worst. We just got rid of Joe's contract no need to give out another ridiculous contract.

Whoever gives bynum a max contract. (we know it will happen) Good luck......