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I was reading Hawks/Hoop (ESPN's page for the Hawks) and saw this:

Buddy Grizzard wrote:And keep in mind, if there was ever a year to be conscious of draft position, it’s 2014, the year of the Andrew Wiggins sweepstakes. Ferry has already cleverly secured the right to swap picks with the Nets in 2014 and 2015 when Brooklyn could be one injury away from the lottery. Hoopsworld and L.A. Times writer Eric Pincus assured me that the conditions placed on those picks as a result of the Joe Johnson trade will remain in place even if the Nets trade the picks.

When the trade came about and I read about the right to swap picks, the Nets' right to trade them seemed, to me, to protect them from giving up lottery picks to us. It looked to me that they'd be able to get value from them and offer us the picks they'd traded for.

Now I see we have the chance for the Nets to implode and feed us lottery picks for 2014 and 2015. The last time I saw anything like that, the Cavs were giving the Lakers Magic Johnson.

So I have 2 confessions: first, I have to admit how blind I can be and second (I feel so dirty), I have to admit I'm going to be hoping 31-year-old Joe wears out as fast as all the fans outside of here have been claiming he would, I'm going to be hoping that Deron Williams keeps fading, that 30-year-old Gerald Wallace keeps fading, that Brook Lopez never learns to rebound....

... and folks say we GAVE Joe to the Nets for NOTHING?



Oh, link: http://hawkshoop.com/amico-ferry-most-i ... #more-1173

If we get Wiggins because of this :')

In the words of a wiseman, "Nothing annoys me more than a delusional fan base."

Well, there are wise men and wiseguys...

Nothing delusional about being glad to have the 2 picks and hoping the Nets falter.

Schadenfreude comes to mind.

Hawk4Playoffs wrote:In the words of a wiseman, "Nothing annoys me more than a delusional fan base."

It's not delusional at all to think that an injury for the Nets would put them in the lotto, I'm not saying that I'm hoping for an injury but it's possible: It happened with the Spurs when they drafted Duncan, it happened with the Heat when Wade went down (although they got the #2 pick that year)

The Nets have to be the worst team out of 30 to have the highest chances of obtaining that number 1 pick... which wiggins will most likely go. You have to be worse than the bobcats, wizards, kings, pistons, suns... Hard to see the Nets dropping down to be the WORST team in the NBA or even bottom 5 in the next year or 2.

Actually no, the Nets just need to miss the playoffs and they'll be in the lottery. Would their chances be lower than a really bad team? Sure but the worst team has won the lotto only a handful of times and you need only look to Chicago and how they lucked into Derrick Rose as example of, I guess, an "upper tier" lotto team winning it.

MaceCase wrote:Actually no, the Nets just need to miss the playoffs and they'll be in the lottery. Would their chances be lower than a really bad team? Sure but the worst team has won the lotto only a handful of times and you need only look to Chicago and how they lucked into Derrick Rose as example of, I guess, an "upper tier" lotto team winning it.

yeah, true. good point

ATL Boy wrote:

Hawk4Playoffs wrote:In the words of a wiseman, "Nothing annoys me more than a delusional fan base."

It's not delusional at all to think that an injury for the Nets would put them in the lotto, I'm not saying that I'm hoping for an injury but it's possible: It happened with the Spurs when they drafted Duncan, it happened with the Heat when Wade went down (although they got the #2 pick that year)

These two examples can't be used : SAS and MIA should never have been so much bad these seasons, and they were because of high tanking... to increase their chances to get the top pick.
Why would BKN tank and increase their chances to get a top pick if ATL get get it instead of them ? No reason for them to do that.

I know that BKN can finish 12th, and give us a lottery hope, but they will never finish with the worst record just to make us happy.

D21 wrote:

ATL Boy wrote:

Hawk4Playoffs wrote:In the words of a wiseman, "Nothing annoys me more than a delusional fan base."

It's not delusional at all to think that an injury for the Nets would put them in the lotto, I'm not saying that I'm hoping for an injury but it's possible: It happened with the Spurs when they drafted Duncan, it happened with the Heat when Wade went down (although they got the #2 pick that year)

These two examples can't be used : SAS and MIA should never have been so much bad these seasons, and they were because of high tanking... to increase their chances to get the top pick.
Why would BKN tank and increase their chances to get a top pick if ATL get get it instead of them ? No reason for them to do that.

I know that BKN can finish 12th, and give us a lottery hope, but they will never finish with the worst record just to make us happy.

As stated just a post above they don't have to have the worst record to get the top pick