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IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:22 pm
by parson
Namely, if Morey insists that we take Lin, do we refuse all trades with him and tell Howard the only way he can play with Smith is here in Atlanta?
All or nothing?
I admit I'd like to have Asik but - the more I stew on it - not if Lin's contract tags along. If HOU can find another team to take Lin who will send picks to us, fine. It seems to me that we should remind Morey that he can still mess this whole Dwight Howard thing up. I'm sure DAL is reminding Howard that Dirk is the stretch PF he wants to play with.
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:25 pm
by niffoc4
I can definitely see us saying we won't take Lin, and that they need to find a third team to take him. Not so sure the blackmail for Dwight part would work though.
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:41 pm
by Jamaaliver
parson wrote:Namely, if Morey insists that we take Lin, do we refuse all trades with him and tell Howard the only way he can play with Smith is here in Atlanta?
All or nothing?
Reports say that playing alongside Smoove was never mentioned in talks with Dwight.
They were, however, mentioned n talks with Josh.
Dwight seems to not care one way r the other about playing with Josh.
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:41 pm
by parson
I don't see it as blackmail but as a declaration of how far we can afford to go - and a reminder that HOU has a lot to lose, as well. I see Lin as a $15 million blunder (2014-15), which would severely damage us going forward. We'd definitely have to let Teague go and we'd end up committing our offense to Lin (don't let the tankers read this or they'll be clamoring for Lin, even without Asik).
Morey admitted that his team will be hurt if they don't sign Howard - in particular pointing out that he had already given up assets to get him (Robinson).
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2013 5:22 pm
by tomaHAWKslam
Houston can't demand anything. If they want a sign and trade deal, we can not let them force bad contracts on us.
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2013 6:05 pm
by ATL Boy
There's no way we take on Lin unless they make it really worth our while. Say, they throw in Parsons as well
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2013 6:13 pm
by dms269
ATL Boy wrote:There's no way we take on Lin unless they make it really worth our while. Say, they throw in Parsons as well
I wouldn't demand Parsons (that is asking a bit much), but they need to realize that Lin does not have the value that they think he does. I would think we would likely need at least a pick in the deal as well.
I would be more concerned with them trying to pawn White off on us.
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Wed Jul 3, 2013 10:19 pm
by D21
parson wrote:...I see Lin as a $15 million blunder (2014-15), which would severely damage us going forward
Lin would have count doe $15M for NYK only, if they had matched the offer.
For HOU, or any new team, he would count against the cap for $8.3M in next two years.
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Sat Jul 6, 2013 12:32 am
by FCNATL85
Asik and Robinson for Smith would do.
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Sat Jul 6, 2013 12:33 am
by FCNATL85
would be great if we could do:
Asik, Robinson, HOU 1st for Smith and ATL 2nd and MIA 2nd
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Sat Jul 6, 2013 12:44 am
by No-Man
Asik, Jones, Papanikolau rights, Hou 1st for Smith and Atlanta 2nd and Miami 2nd.
That'll do it.
Robinson is in Portland now.
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Sat Jul 6, 2013 12:45 am
by FCNATL85
Or
Smith, Nogueira, MIA 2nd, HOU 1st and Lin to LAL
Dwight and Blake and Neto to HOU
Asik and Robinson + LAL 1st to ATL
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Sat Jul 6, 2013 12:49 am
by parson
Why would we send out Nogueira? No, no, no.
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:01 am
by davefmcl
KEEP Bebe!!!
If we do end up getting Lin, go we become China's team?
I thought it was funny that Houston was selling Dwight that they were the biggest team in China while they were attempting to unload Lin like be has the plague.
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:01 am
by FCNATL85
Fischella wrote:Asik, Jones, Papanikolau rights, Hou 1st for Smith and Atlanta 2nd and Miami 2nd.
That'll do it.
Robinson is in Portland now.
Did not know if that was official yet. I like that. Skip Pap's rights and MIA 2nd on both side and it is even better!
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Sat Jul 6, 2013 1:07 am
by FCNATL85
what if D12 really ended up in GSW?
Smoothe could leave to HOU for nothing : bye-bye Asik!
Re: IF HOU demands we take Lin, do we play this card?
Posted: Sat Jul 6, 2013 3:57 am
by dms269
FCNATL85 wrote:Or
Smith, Nogueira, MIA 2nd, HOU 1st and Lin to LAL
Dwight and Blake and Neto to HOU
Asik and Robinson + LAL 1st to ATL
Why would we give up bebe just to bring in the Laker 1st? Makes no sense.