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And if this win in OKC was the beginning of getting together for BKN?
I am convinced that at the end of the day IF we end up getting BKN pick, there will be a marginal difference between the two teams...
Thoughts?

If they win 1/2 of their remaining games, they'll finish with 36 wins. That's the optimistic view. The other is that Lopez is out, Pierce is old, Garnett is oooooold, Joe is bored and Deron Williams is becoming thicker and thicker. In that vein, they win 30% of their games and finish with 26 wins.

I'll guess they win 31 games and finish in the lottery.

On the other hand, if we don't add another player, I can see us running out of gas and winning fewer and fewer games down the stretch, ending up winning 40% of our remaining games and finishing with 38 wins. If we can add anyone good enough to help, it'll be hard for us to miss the playoffs.

They could easily catch up with CHi, WAS, DET, CHA and TOR and even us to your point, since we ae a bit thin and have to expand a lot of energy even against ORL and BOS, agreed away,...but still.


who would be that player we should add? I personally do not favor a trade, especially Millsap. He has been a work horse for us and I believe his value would be higher, if deemed not a good fit, year from now.

Talent level says they make the playoffs. A 7-10 game winning streak at any point will change peoples whole outlook

FCNATL85 wrote:They could easily catch up with CHi, WAS, DET, CHA and TOR and even us to your point, since we ae a bit thin and have to expand a lot of energy even against ORL and BOS, agreed away,...but still.


who would be that player we should add? I personally do not favor a trade, especially Millsap. He has been a work horse for us and I believe his value would be higher, if deemed not a good fit, year from now.

Honestly, what winning percentage do you think they will have for the rest of the season? I guessed 40% (giving them 31 at the end of the season) because of their age and the loss of Lopez. It's not as easy as you're making it for them to overcome their poor start. Do you think they'll win 70% of their remaining games? 60%? 50%?

70% will give them 46 victories.
60% = 41
50% = 36

I don't think Kidd has any chance of still being Head Coach past All Star Weekend. The debacle earlier this week where the Nets players walked off the court in SA before the game was officially over was an absolute embarrassment.

I think they will have a bump, streak of hot games after that change is made...but at this point I think they are largely stuck in quicksand. Struggling to move, but going nowhere fast.

After all, they're 3-7 in their last 10 games. Let's at least watch them string a few wins together before we get worried about a resurgence.

I feel like this thread pops up every time the Nets actually win a game.

Look, they've won 2 games in a row all of once all season. That's it, that's their longest win streak. I don't care that they beat a Westbrookless OKC team on a night in January, the Kings just beat the Heat or Spurs just last week yet aren't getting anyone to fear their ascendance.

I think the Nets should actually string together just 3-4 wins in a row before the "waking up" threads start to pop up. For all you know the Cavs could put them right back to sleep.

Takes more than 1 game to get back on track.....Nyets were lucky the OKC were not engaged last night.

Shouldn't have happened, but it did, and the Nyets are 11-21...

Joe finished with 9 big points.

They still look old.

The Thunder matchup was a good one for the Nets. Recently injured 2nd best player out, who just so happens to play the same position as the Nets best player, which means you have a backup guarding him. No surprise Deron went off for 29 and Durant had a bad game (same number of fga as Jackson). % wise the Thunder should have won, but then again JJ did make a game winning shot.

Now if it would have been a blow-out then we can maybe say they are back. Can't really say they are back when they are playing against a team whose 2nd best player is out and they only win by a game winning shot.

Jamaaliver wrote:I don't think Kidd has any chance of still being Head Coach past All Star Weekend.

This prediction looks worse everyday. Especially since:

Nets head coach Jason Kidd has earned Eastern Conference Coach of the Month honors for January.

The Nets went 10-3 and compiled two five-game winning streaks last month to earn Kidd his first coach of the month award. Kidd is the first Nets coach to get the nod since Avery Johnson won in November of the 2012-2013 season.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/brooklyn-nets/post/_/id/15872/kidd-named-coach-of-the-month

Man, that's one hell of a turnaround. Shows what I know...

So much for the Round Mound saying last night saying "we apologize" to the viewers cuz the Nets were on, I'm like they have been playing good of late.

Confirming my perception 5 weeks or so ago...BKN will likely catch up with us but so might WAS, CHI,... TOR already did. We might finish 8th... and what would be the point? Better off having Sap "resting" and us getting in the mix of the LotterY?

FCNATL85 wrote:Confirming my perception 5 weeks or so ago...BKN will likely catch up with us but so might WAS, CHI,... TOR already did. We might finish 8th... and what would be the point? Better off having Sap "resting" and us getting in the mix of the LotterY?

WAS and CHI have the same record over their last 10 as we do.

"Resting" our starters means planting a poison pill that will be hard for anyone to swallow. It would basically be team chemistry suicide.

^QAgreed. Why tank the last 1/3 of the season just to move up to what is likely the 13th or 14th spot in the draft.

I'd rather keep our playoff streak intact. We can compete with most teams in the 1st round, with the exception of CHI.

I'd rather have a 7th straight playoff appearance, with a possible 2nd round visit and the 19th pick in the draft....than just the 14th pick in the draft.

Keep in mind. Even though he's been a career assistant, this is still Bud's rookie season. He needs to get some playoff experience under his belt now while expectations are low. That way 2 or 3 years from now, when Dennis is ready and Horford is entering the last productive phase of his career, these guys will be able to make a deep run.

Jamaaliver wrote:I'd rather have a 7th straight playoff appearance, with a possible 2nd round visit and the 19th pick in the draft....than just the 14th pick in the draft...

I agree, and we already saw teams deciding to tank at the end, but even if they lose it all, the other teams that started to tank earlier will tank even harder and don't let any team be worst than them.

Better keep fighting, and make rookie coach and players beginning with a winning culture and experience.

Jamaaliver wrote:I'd rather have a 7th straight playoff appearance, with a possible 2nd round visit and the 19th pick in the draft....than just the 14th pick in the draft.

I agree with this sentiment (and the point on Coach Bud is excellent), but we should note that, for an Eastern Conference team, missing the playoffs would most likely mean a the pick would be 11 or 12 at the highest.

Another note here though is that I think we're being a bit quick to throw in the towel on BRK. Kind of have the feeling that there will be more to that roller coaster than what we're seeing now.

I hope you're right but they're on a tear. Earlier, I noted that they'd have to win 70% of their remaining games to reach 46 victories. Now, 56 is not unreasonable.

My point is simple.. We are better than DET and NYK.. so far, all other teams CHI, TOR, WAS, BKN are or will go ahead of us. One injury, e.g. DeMarre and we are out of a game for PO position.

This team is running out of gas athis point of the season, quite normal without Al, Pero, and tonight Carroll (not to mention jenkins)... Is there a point to finish 8 versus 9 or 10? Team will still fight, got that . Schroeder will get more PT, got that. but at the end of the day, I do beleive that we will finish 8th at best. We would be better of at 9 or 10 and maybe gain a few spots with ping pong balls... This draft if done well is more important that one round in the PO this year...

Yes that team would fight but they would lose ... If I can a slightly better player, I would prefer that... hoping for the KNK to play better after Trade deadline and getting a few players back...We are at max production...for now.

We are better than DET and NYK if we have less injured players. Like we are now, they are better.
Don't forger that NYK got lots of injuries, and that DET have a special roster with big frontcourt that certainly need lots of games to start working (if it can work). If Josh starts to stop long jumpers, they will pass us...

We could fall out of the PO picture if KKN and WAS maintain the pace while either NYK and or DET either get players back or adjust to new coach, this could happen naturally...only 3 ahead of DET...