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Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 10:41 am
by diesel50
In keeping with the series, today, the ball rolls around to Mike Scott. Scott is probably the only immediate hit that Ferry ever made on a draft pick. This former UVA standout is showing that he can play big on this level. Right now he's averaging 9.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg in 16.5 mpg. In the month of Jan, his numbers were 13.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg in 21.5 mpg. and In Feb, he is now at 14 ppg, 6 rpg in 21.2 mpg. If somebody's game has been stepped up since Horf has gone down, it's Scott. His shooting percentages are 52.8 and 55.6 % for Jan and Feb respectively. There's a lot to like about this guy. The question is has he shown us enough to warrant a 2nd contract? More importantly, has he shown us enough for us to make plans to move one of the guys in front of him... so that he can get more PT??
What do you say?
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 12:21 pm
by theatlfan
Hate to say it, but I think Scott May have played his way out of the long term plans. At this point, I could see a rebuilding team risk MLE $$ on him thinking he has some development left and can take a heavier rotational role as a scorer. Would we match that? Ferry and/or Coach Bud is showing a special gift for being able to cobble big man depth from no names and has beens. Why not we go back to the well with this ability?
Also, I can't say that Scott was an "immediate hit [for a] draft pick". He was OK last season for a 2nd round pick, sure, but I was much higher on Jenkins than Scott last season. It's just that Scott has made quite a jump in his game whereas Jenkins got hurt. I'd think by "immediate" then the impact must be felt in year 1.
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 3:56 pm
by azuresou1
I like Mike Scott but not for MLE. We do have some leverage since he'll be a RFA- if so I'd like to sign him to a 3/$6 contract or something like that.
Also, I doubt he will ever be anything more than a good rotation player. Moving someone in front of him to get him more PT seems like a bad idea.
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 4:11 pm
by parson
He's in the Kyle Korver category, only he doesn't do any one thing as well as Korver does.
But that's not to criticize him. Like Korver, he'll have a long career, bouncing around from team to team. Everyone needs a guy who can flat out score. Some years, certain teams will need him more than other teams will - and will pay handsomely for his scoring.
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 6:18 pm
by Jamaaliver
Considering Millsap's contract expires next season and he will undoubtedly want a raise, I foresee Scott as the heir apparent as scoring PF. Their skillsets are very similar anyway. As is their background. Also, Scott, signed to a modest contract, could be one of our better trade chips down the road.
Hawk 4 Life...IDK. But at least a few more seasons.
What's really cool is that in a few more seasons we could see an entire Hawks roster filled with mostly players drafted by us. In the pipeline waiting for their chance to shine.
This Fall I can see a frontcourt of Muscala, Bebe and Mike Scott off the bench...with our 2 second round picks being the stabilizing, experienced, consistent force while Bebe learns the ropes.
Dennis, JJ2 getting more burn next year, plus whatever draftees we acquire this summer. Imagine a Hawks team with as many as 9 drafted players next year. That would be something.
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 8:10 pm
by theatlfan
Jamaaliver wrote:What's really cool is that in a few more seasons we could see an entire Hawks roster filled with mostly players drafted by us. In the pipeline waiting for their chance to shine.
This Fall I can see a frontcourt of Muscala, Bebe and Mike Scott off the bench...with our 2 second round picks being the stabilizing, experienced, consistent force while Bebe learns the ropes.
Dennis, JJ2 getting more burn next year, plus whatever draftees we acquire this summer. Imagine a Hawks team with as many as 9 drafted players next year. That would be something.
... aaaannnnddd my jaw hit the floor. I take it you're changing your tune on Coach Bud's development of young players? I've definitely given him a bit more slack because of Scott's development and Jenkins' injury, but I don't think he's quite out of the woods yet...
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 9:12 pm
by parson
Forgive me for turning this into a "Ferry's doing well and Budenholzer's a genius" thread but y'all are headed in that direction, anyway. We're building a solid team that'll be top-10 every year AND with cap space for a max FA.
Let us hit on one FA and we're cooking.
"Bold move"? Talk to me after the kiddies (and journeymen vets) stop growing:
Paul Millsap.
DeMarre Carroll.
Mike Scott.
Shelvin Mack.
That's quite a list of unexpected success. Makes me sad thinking what if Jenkins had been able to join them.
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Wed Feb 5, 2014 10:11 pm
by Jamaaliver
theatlfan wrote:... aaaannnnddd my jaw hit the floor. I take it you're changing your tune on Coach Bud's development of young players? I've definitely given him a bit more slack because of Scott's development and Jenkins' injury, but I don't think he's quite out of the woods yet...
lol. No, still a little frustrated on that end. But hopeful a summer of working with Dennis and Bebe plus the extensive experience Muscala has gained overseas could force Bud into giving the kiddies a more prominent role. I'm very pleased with Ferry's draftees, less so with the amount of on court PT they've received in a mediocre season.
parson wrote:Let us hit on one FA and we're cooking.
"Bold move"? Talk to me after the kiddies (and journeymen vets) stop growing:
Paul Millsap.
DeMarre Carroll.
Mike Scott.
Shelvin Mack.
They are indeed hits. But I suspect Mack, Carroll and even Millsap may all be gone by summer 2015. There's a reason all these guys were lured in with the possibility of a major role, but were only signed to very short contracts. Mack and Millsap in particular have outplayed their contracts and will likely be up for big raises very soon.
I'm sure D Ferry already has his on eye on a couple of bargain basement journeyman vets to take their place in the near future.
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Thu Feb 6, 2014 8:27 pm
by Rip2137
I think we will move Millsap next year and Scott is our future starting PF. He basically IS Millsap with better on the ball D. Scotts post game (which he rarely uses this season) looked BEASTLY in the D-League last year which makes me think it would be passable in the real league.
I like Paul, but his resign dollars might be steep if he puts together another All star caliber year next year. We could sign Scott for less money and get similar production(with his increased minutes)
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Thu Feb 6, 2014 9:14 pm
by parson
Rip2137 wrote:I think we will move Millsap next year and Scott is our future starting PF. He basically IS Millsap with better on the ball D.
Scott plays defense? Who knew?
I'm gonna have to disagree with ya on that'un.
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Thu Feb 6, 2014 9:48 pm
by MaceCase
Scott's biggest weakness has proven to be his defense (and lesser extent rebounding) so I can't in any good faith place him above Sap who has faithfully guarded 3s-5s and hounded them with his lightning jabs that constantly produce steals.
Re: Mike Scott = Hawks for Life?
Posted: Thu Feb 6, 2014 11:31 pm
by Rip2137
Hey, I said ON THE BALL. Meaning against PF's that actually play like PF's. He gets lost when a guy faces him up and when a guy is running off screens, but posting up Scott or posting up Millsap...you are gonna post up Millsap first.
Everything else is going to be "learn to play D" type of thing. We have to remember he is still just a 2nd year player versus Sap, who has been in the league a while.
Millsap has been worlds better on D than what I am used to seeing though. especially getting his hands in passing lanes.