Which player would you trade?

[GooseDiddy]

If Greg Monroe were to come in as a sign and trade, whihch player currently under contract would you want to send the other way?

[ATL Boy]

personally, Lou Williams.

[PandaKidd]

Tough decision, not sure Monroe is worth our All Stars (Millsap/AH) and not sure DET would be looking to get back another PF for a PF.

They would be looking for a wing I would assume, so Lou Williams, or maybe ............

[jayu70]

Lou, Mack, Ayon....they can have their pick from that lot.
We need to be adding talent to what we already have.

[SBM]

Probably would take Lou, Bebe, and a pick to get them talking

[ATL Boy]

Probably would take Lou, Bebe, and a pick to get them talking

A Monroe S&T isn't worth two firsts and Lou

[SBM]

Probably would take Lou, Bebe, and a pick to get them talking

A Monroe S&T isn't worth two firsts and Lou

If I were Detroit's front office I would disagree with you because Monroe could be every bit as good as Sap on this team

[PandaKidd]

The real issue is I dont think we need monroe, at all.

[dms269]

The real issue is I dont think we need monroe, at all.

We may not need Monroe himself, but we do need a center. Horford has only 2 years left on his contract. If he just refuse to get him a true center to allow him to play a position which will allow him to take less of a beating, he can pretty much guarantee we will have an extra 12 million to do something with after 2016.

[PandaKidd]

The real issue is I dont think we need monroe, at all.

We may not need Monroe himself, but we do need a center. Horford has only 2 years left on his contract. If he just refuse to get him a true center to allow him to play a position which will allow him to take less of a beating, he can pretty much guarantee we will have an extra 12 million to do something with after 2016.

Monroe is virutally the same size as AH. and he plays PF. Hes not a starting Center for the Pistons.

So we are going to have Monroe, Horford and millsap?

not a fan

[dms269]

The real issue is I dont think we need monroe, at all.

We may not need Monroe himself, but we do need a center. Horford has only 2 years left on his contract. If he just refuse to get him a true center to allow him to play a position which will allow him to take less of a beating, he can pretty much guarantee we will have an extra 12 million to do something with after 2016.

Monroe is virutally the same size as AH. and he plays PF. Hes not a starting Center for the Pistons.

So we are going to have Monroe, Horford and millsap?

not a fan

Monroe does play center for 40% of the Piston's minutes though.

[PandaKidd]

So do you think it would be more of a rotation with AH and GM splitting time at C and PF?

This leaves Millsap out IMO, he cant play SF.

[myrak433]

The real issue is I dont think we need monroe, at all.

We may not need Monroe himself, but we do need a center. Horford has only 2 years left on his contract. If he just refuse to get him a true center to allow him to play a position which will allow him to take less of a beating, he can pretty much guarantee we will have an extra 12 million to do something with after 2016.

Monroe is virutally the same size as AH. and he plays PF. Hes not a starting Center for the Pistons.

So we are going to have Monroe, Horford and millsap?

not a fan

that is not exactly true. Al is 6'10" and Monroe is 6'11". Not to much difference, but Monroe Wingspan is almost 2 inches longer than Als. And Monroe has more Body Fat than Al so he can take more of pounding down low with the big boys than Al can.

I think that He would be the starting 5 and Horford would be the 4, but would Alternate depending on the match ups. I believe with Al and Monroe would could have our own twin towers in Atlanta. (or a twin mini towers)
I tell you want we wouldn't be the smallest team anymore. I would love it.

[Jamaaliver]

If Greg Monroe were to come in as a sign and trade, whihch player currently under contract would you want to send the other way?

I'd start with Kyle Korver and proceed from there. They need 3-pt shooting to help unclog the lane, they need a starting SF. We have Jenkins and Carroll on the roster to offset the loss, plus we could draft Nik Staukas or Rodney Hood to replace KK.

If DET is willing to include Kentavious Caldwell-Pope in trade, they can take KK, our 1st round pick in 2014 and the filler necessary to make it happen.

[Rip2137]

Jamaal, what do you see in KCP that I don't? I think he is a solid defender but besides that I don't know if he will be able to contribute consistantly on the offensive end unless he dramtically improves his jumpshot.

I have seen you mention him a few times and I kinda got tired of watching the Pistons "offense" around the Allstar break, so maybe I missed something.

I just don't see that much of an upside in the kid.

As for trading Korver, I would have to see where Jenkins back would be first. I would only be willing to trade Korver if it were to clear space to add more pieces(or sign Luol Deng)

[Jamaaliver]

Jamaal, what do you see in KCP that I don't? I think he is a solid defender but besides that I don't know if he will be able to contribute consistantly on the offensive end unless he dramtically improves his jumpshot.

I have seen you mention him a few times and I kinda got tired of watching the Pistons "offense" around the Allstar break, so maybe I missed something.

I just don't see that much of an upside in the kid.

A great young '3 & D' player. I saw enough of him in College to know he can hit open shots. He's already an above average defender. That offense in DET was terrible this year as was the coaching, so I won't hold one year in DET against him.

I see him being, at worst, a young Denny Green type player. But with his athleticism and skillset....in our system....he'd be something special.

I'd love to see what some of our 'Daily Vitamins' could do for the young Shooting Guard.

[MaceCase]

Don't know why I'd entertain anything valuable in a sign and trade for Monroe if a sign and trade at all. Ponder this, suppose the odds remain in Detroit's favor or perhaps even improve and they keep their pick.......are you telling me that in a draft that features a ton of top tier forwards and a C......and them already paying 40 million to another forward......with a young franchise C already in tow.......that they'd entertain matching any decent offer for another F/C to the point they'd demand anything of value in a sign and trade to part with this....valuable piece?

Sounds like folks in Michigan want their cake and to eat it too. Let's just imagine for **** and giggles that they get Wiggins or Parker, are they going to justify paying a guy 8 figures to come off the bench or are they going to sit a potential franchise player in favor of a group of guys that led them to sub 30 wins? So that opens up another can of worms, if they match a deal for Monroe then he has trade veto power for a year and if they think they can play the long game and trade him after the year then that's likely after they killed some of his value benching him in favor of their top pick or vice versa.

They'd get Louis at best to replace Stuck, they can kick rocks on anything else.

[azuresou1]

Don't know why I'd entertain anything valuable in a sign and trade for Monroe if a sign and trade at all. Ponder this, suppose the odds remain in Detroit's favor or perhaps even improve and they keep their pick.......are you telling me that in a draft that features a ton of top tier forwards and a C......and them already paying 40 million to another forward......with a young franchise C already in tow.......that they'd entertain matching any decent offer for another F/C to the point they'd demand anything of value in a sign and trade to part with this....valuable piece?

Sounds like folks in Michigan want their cake and to eat it too. Let's just imagine for **** and giggles that they get Wiggins or Parker, are they going to justify paying a guy 8 figures to come off the bench or are they going to sit a potential franchise player in favor of a group of guys that led them to sub 30 wins? So that opens up another can of worms, if they match a deal for Monroe then he has trade veto power for a year and if they think they can play the long game and trade him after the year then that's likely after they killed some of his value benching him in favor of their top pick or vice versa.

They'd get Louis at best to replace Stuck, they can kick rocks on anything else.

Bingo. GMs that give anything of value in S&Ts are dumb unless it's for a superstar.

[theatlfan]

I disagree about the "don't give up anything of value in an SNT for an RFA" thought. The problem is that the other team can opt to match - so that means you either need to overpay the player so the original team doesn't match or you have to give them some value to do the same. I'd prefer to put talent on the table over $$. If you put $$ on the table, then it's a MUCH bigger deal if the potential you're paying for doesn't pan out.

As for the trade, I don't think we can get away without putting either Horford or Millsap into the deal to acquire him. I know the consensus is that they need a SF, but you can stretch the floor with a PF too and outside of the J, Smith is fine at the 3 (I mean, it's not like you're benching him if you get a 3 for Monroe so why rearrange the entire deck?). Having said that, I would expect some amount of value coming back for either of them in the swap. For Horford, I'd demand KCP or a lightly protected 1st; for Millsap, I'd settle for less... maybe Singler.

Of course all this assumes that Monroe is the guy we target. I wouldn't mind acquiring him, but I willingly concede that a large part of the reason is what I think Coach Bud can turn him into - not what he is today. If Ferry wants more present production, then I don't think we'd target Monroe.

[theatlfan]

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