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Post#1 » by simon24 » Wed May 21, 2014 2:55 am

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... rade-Block

I had no idea the Kings once looked at Schroeder prior the draft. That would be a steal for Ferry to turn the 17th pick last year into the 8th pick this year.
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Post#2 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 21, 2014 3:27 am

I'm pretty torn on this.

I love Dennis and still see him as the future at Hawks PG.

But the chance to move up to #8 in this draft could be too good to pass up.

As dysfunctional as the Kings' front office is, they couldn't be stupid enough to trade #8 this year for #17 last year...could they?
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Post#3 » by Yungsta404 » Wed May 21, 2014 3:36 am

ill do it without hesitation. Love dennis's potential but it looks like hes years away from being a major rotational player.
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Post#4 » by atlantabbq99 » Wed May 21, 2014 4:53 am

I would love to get Julius Randle (or Exum), but i don't think they will fall to #8
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Post#5 » by ATLHawksfan21 » Wed May 21, 2014 5:08 am

I was looking forward to seeing Schroeder develop, but I think we have to do this deal if its a straight swap. We will know how highly bud and ferry value Schroeder, depending on their response, if the kings do offer.

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Post#6 » by theatlfan » Wed May 21, 2014 5:26 am

Uh, wow... Good find.

1st, would SAC do Schröder for #8 straight up? As others are saying #17 in last year's draft for #8 in this year's draft... I couldn't think that even SAC would do that. Still, I wouldn't mind adding a little more value to the pot, but what? Would Schröder + 15 be enough? If we add in either Nogueira (no 15 if he's in there though...) or Muscala? How about Korver + Schröder for 8 + an expiring (Jason Terry would do)? I'd prefer not to eat a contract unless they're willing to add enough value for them to land a Millsap though because 8 alone simply wouldn't get it done.

2nd, who would be our target? I've come to love Saric and wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger if he was sitting there. Just think he has a chance to be special and the type of guy you can build a team around. After him though, the next guys on my list are PFs (Vonleh, Randle) and PGs (Smart, Ennis) and I suspect that only 1 of those 5 will be there. Would we put Schröder in a package just to get another PG or PF?
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Post#7 » by SBM » Wed May 21, 2014 7:01 am

It would definitely be Schroeder and 15 for 8 and that is the least amount we could be looking at.

The Kings need a PF and more traditional PG.

PG's they could possibly get

Deron Williams
Brandon Jennings
Jeremy Lin
Darren Collison
Dragic if Phoenix decides they don't want to play two PG's together
Rubio if Minny decides to blow it up

Problem is first three come with contracts that Kings may not like and Jennings may not be the type they want. Collison is not worth the 8th pick and Clips don't have much to add. Dragic and Rubio would be interesting.

Dennis would probably be a top 5 realistic option for them.

PF's they could possibly get

The same issue exist the ones they could get come with hefty contracts.

So, yes Dennis and 15th could be in play for number 8 but there is really nothing worth jumping up for after Embiid, Parker, Wiggins, and Randle.
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Post#8 » by atlantabbq99 » Wed May 21, 2014 1:11 pm

the problem with #8 is that their are only 7 can't miss prospects in the draft (Embiid, Wiggins, Parker, Exum, Vonleh, Randle, Smart).

Kyle Anderson, LaVine, McDermott, Saric, James Young, Gary Harris, Rodney Hood, are all good, but also have big question marks for all of them.
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Post#9 » by ATLHawksfan21 » Wed May 21, 2014 1:46 pm

I must value Korver a lot more than other people. I would rather stick with #15 than trade Korver and Schroeder for #8
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Post#10 » by azuresou1 » Wed May 21, 2014 2:03 pm

I'm in the same boat with you on Korver. To me him + Dennis for 8 is a pretty big overpay since most indications are that by the 8-15 range you're in the 3rd tier, which is very flat talentwise.
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Post#11 » by atlantabbq99 » Wed May 21, 2014 4:23 pm

I heard the Jazz are also interested in trading their pick.

How about the Hawks trade Schroeder for #8.

then trade #8 and #15 to the Jazz for #5

then draft Randle, Exum, Vonleh, or Smart........
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Post#12 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 21, 2014 4:48 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:I heard the Jazz are also interested in trading their pick.

How about the Hawks trade Schroeder for #8.

then trade #8 and #15 to the Jazz for #5

then draft Randle, Exum, Vonleh, or Smart........


This would indeed be a master stroke move. But you know the old saying, if it seems too good to be true...it probably is.

i'm thinking SAC would at least want teague for #8.

Would we do that trade instead? Turning Teague and #15 into a top 5 draft pick?

I'd do it in a heart beat, as it clears up even more cap space, gives us an elite young talent. (Vonleh? Exum?)

Then use that extra cap space on a top free agent like Heyward.

All of a sudden we're looking at a roster flush with young talent.
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Post#13 » by atlantabbq99 » Wed May 21, 2014 4:58 pm

Since the Jazz have Kanter and Favors, then they might no be interested in Randle and Vonleh, and if Exum is gone, the the Jazz might settle for Saric, or McDermott, or Gary Harris.

That could push Randle or Vonleh down to #8
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Post#14 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 21, 2014 5:10 pm

simon24 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/233508/Kings-To-Put-No-8-Pick-On-Trade-Block

I had no idea the Kings once looked at Schroeder prior the draft. That would be a steal for Ferry to turn the 17th pick last year into the 8th pick this year.



The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.
http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

Teague is what it'll cost us. Teague for a top 10 draft pick?

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Re: Schroeder-Kings? 

Post#15 » by atlantabbq99 » Wed May 21, 2014 5:20 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
simon24 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/233508/Kings-To-Put-No-8-Pick-On-Trade-Block

I had no idea the Kings once looked at Schroeder prior the draft. That would be a steal for Ferry to turn the 17th pick last year into the 8th pick this year.



The Kings put the No. 8 pick in the draft on the trade block immediately after the lottery Tuesday night, league sources told NBA.com, clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.
http://www.nba.com/2014/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/05/20/kings-put-pick-on-trade-block/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts

Teague is what it'll cost us. Teague for a top 10 draft pick?

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Where in the articles does it say that the Kings want Teague?
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Re: Schroeder-Kings? 

Post#16 » by Jamaaliver » Wed May 21, 2014 5:29 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:
Where in the articles does it say that the Kings want Teague?


It doesn't. It says they will be looking to bring in a veteran instead of developing another young player.

...clearly looking to add at least one impact veteran in an attempt to push into the playoff conversation next season rather than wait for another rookie prospect to develop.


The comment on them liking Schroeder is separate. I cannot fathom any situation where they'd trade THIS Years's lottery pick for Schroeder straight up...especially if they're looking for a veteran guard.

Teague is an impact veteran at a position of need on a great long-term contract. Perfect for what their stated goal is. I've taken the liberty of running this proposal past King fans on their board.HERE!
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Re: Schroeder-Kings? 

Post#17 » by SBM » Wed May 21, 2014 7:29 pm

I wouldn't trade Teague for #8 which is a player that may never be as good as he is and I don't think Ferry would either.
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Post#18 » by Yungsta404 » Wed May 21, 2014 7:30 pm

I just reread the headline and it said Schroeder "could be a possibility". Whoever wrote this just took a stab in the dark. It makes no sense for them to have another raw prospect for them to develop. They need an instant impact vet that will immediately make them a better team.

Teague fits that criteria but the Kings may want a vet who is a stronger leader. Personally If I was the King's GM I would look for a PG who is better at running the offense, a mentor, a vocal leader, and help bring a culture of professionalism.

I hope the Kings think teague is that kind of PG.
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Re: Schroeder-Kings? 

Post#19 » by Yungsta404 » Wed May 21, 2014 7:43 pm

SBM wrote:I wouldn't trade Teague for #8 which is a player that may never be as good as he is and I don't think Ferry would either.


Whoever we pick may or may not be better than Teague but as a GM, Ferry will eventually need to start taking some risks if he wants to improve the talent on this team and take this team to the next level.
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Re: Schroeder-Kings? 

Post#20 » by Rip2137 » Wed May 21, 2014 8:54 pm

So anyone think Lou did enough in the last month of the season to get a look in this trade? He is a vet...maybe has some leadership qualities(I have no clue), not over paid...

Lou, the 15 and maybe Muscala?

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