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Too early to talk draft? 

Post#1 » by td00 » Thu May 7, 2015 1:45 pm

I have 2 guys on my radar when #15 comes up; I'm thinking either of these guys would be a good asset for us:

Trey Lyles
Tyus Jones

I know we don't have a need for a PG, but I'm not sure I can pass on Jones if he's still available.
I would hope we avoid Bobby Portis as well.
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Post#2 » by Hawk Eye » Thu May 7, 2015 3:21 pm

See my sig.

I really feel like Booker will be the BPA at #15 when we are on the clock. The best current NBA player comparison I've seen for him is JJ Redick. It fits the bill statistically as well as physically. If Booker had stayed another year at UK I feel like he would be a sure fire top 10 pick.
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Re: Too early to talk draft? 

Post#3 » by Jamaaliver » Thu May 7, 2015 3:43 pm

NEVER TOO EARLY, baby!!!!

I think Karl Towns and Justise Winslow are the two top talents in the whole draft. I like Porzingis as a young star.

I think we should be targeting him or Myles Turner this draft. Even if we need to trade up to do it. (Turner's shot blocking, jump shooting make him perfect for this offense and this roster.) Booker would be a solid addition. I do not believe he has much upside. JJ Redick sounds about right, though.

If he falls to us, Stanley Johnson would be too perfect to pass on as SF of the future.
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Post#4 » by Hawk Eye » Thu May 7, 2015 4:02 pm

I don't see anyway Johnson falls to us at #15. BUT, if for some weird reason he does and him and Booker are available at #15....I'm taking Johnson.
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Post#5 » by td00 » Thu May 7, 2015 6:53 pm

The 2 main areas of concern are Millsap and DMC.

I don't know if there is a DMC replacement in the draft at15 if we decide to not resign him. He is so critical to us.

For Millsap, I don't want to lose him, and I sure would like to have a young guy start rotating with he and Al should one of them go down.

Man, Gasol would have been a perfect fit for us, not overworking any of the 3 big men. I think Lyles can be taught to shoot the 3, while he learns the system in the meanwhile.

As for Tyus Jones, I see lots of bulldog in him and he would be a good one to start mentoring.
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Post#6 » by atlantabbq99 » Thu May 7, 2015 8:05 pm

Stanley was projected at top 5. Turner was projected as a top 10. But after reading some articles and message boards and mock drafts, it looks like Stanley and/or Turner could fall. Their draft stock might be falling, im not sure.

It wouldn't be the weirdest thing in the world. When Dennis was in the draft, he was projected as high as #7, but ended up goning #17.

Kyle Anderson was projected to go low lottery but ended up being the last pick of the 1st round

Paul Peirce was ranked #3, but ended up going #10.

Rashard Lewis was suppose to go in the low lottery but ended up going in the 2nd round.

its not uncommon for players to slip ten or more spots in a draft, it kind of happens at least every other year.

Porzingis is a guy who is all over the boards, some people have him going as high as #5, and a few others have him going in the low 20s. I think Porzingis will be different than Stanley and Turner in that i think his draft stock will go up in the next few weeks once scouts start to do their home work on him.

It's a very very slim shot that Stanley, Turner, or Porzingis slip to #15, but it has happen before in other drafts.

I'm not holding my breath on any of the three guys and i think that a realistic option for #15 will be Booker.

Booker is a classic Budz and Ferry type of draft pick, nobody can doubt that. I think Booker's ceiling could be Klay or the Celtic's version of Ray Allen. Booker's middle could be a rich man's or athletic version of Redick who can play defense. And because he is a freshmen, his floor is automatically a bust.
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Re: Too early to talk draft? 

Post#7 » by td00 » Thu May 7, 2015 8:16 pm

I'm a big UK fan, but if you want a guy to help you sooner than later, I'm not taking Booker at 15. Jenkins can do what Booker can.
Lyles could be a terrific fit in the rotation, and he's projected in that area. Tyus Jones is just an insurance plan for Denis or JT.

I wanted KJ McDaniels last year, because we were thin at SF and SG after trading Lou. I still would like to see us get KJMcD and make him our Igguodala at a cheap rate of about 3/9M.

You guys going with BPA or fill a need at our bonus 15th pick?
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Post#8 » by atlantabbq99 » Thu May 7, 2015 8:39 pm

td00 wrote:I'm a big UK fan, but if you want a guy to help you sooner than later, I'm not taking Booker at 15. Jenkins can do what Booker can.
Lyles could be a terrific fit in the rotation, and he's projected in that area. Tyus Jones is just an insurance plan for Denis or JT.

I wanted KJ McDaniels last year, because we were thin at SF and SG after trading Lou. I still would like to see us get KJMcD and make him our Igguodala at a cheap rate of about 3/9M.

You guys going with BPA or fill a need at our bonus 15th pick?


Booker doesn't have a spinal injury, John Jenkins does. Booker is a freshmen, John Jenkins came out as a senior.

That is a good idea about KJD. I don't think the sixers would accept, but it wouldn't hurt to offer the #15 for a young athletic 3pt shooting wing player like KJD.
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Post#9 » by PandaKidd » Thu May 7, 2015 8:56 pm

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Post#10 » by Hawk Eye » Thu May 7, 2015 9:07 pm

PandaKidd wrote:http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2015/5/7/ ... ey-johnson


I saw this today but wasn't able see the full mock. I was only able to see that they predicted SJ to fall to us at #15. Do you have the full mock from this article or at least 1-15?
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Post#11 » by Hawkeyes » Thu May 7, 2015 9:21 pm

Btw, do we have the Nets pick for next year as well, or was this the last year? Give me Myles Turner at #15 if he falls that far.
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Post#12 » by atlantabbq99 » Thu May 7, 2015 9:24 pm

PMOTT3 wrote:
PandaKidd wrote:http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2015/5/7/ ... ey-johnson


I saw this today but wasn't able see the full mock. I was only able to see that they predicted SJ to fall to us at #15. Do you have the full mock from this article or at least 1-15?


Ya, i have been reading alot that Stanley's stock has been falling, which would be great for the Hawks.

But i also remember DeAndre Jordan falling in the draft and going right past the Hawks, but that was with Billy Knight. I have more faith in Ferry making the right pick if that happens.
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Post#13 » by Hawk Eye » Thu May 7, 2015 9:32 pm

Hawkeyes wrote:Btw, do we have the Nets pick for next year as well, or was this the last year? Give me Myles Turner at #15 if he falls that far.


This was the last year we were able to swap picks.
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Post#14 » by Jamaaliver » Thu May 7, 2015 11:48 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:But i also remember DeAndre Jordan falling in the draft and going right past the Hawks, but that was with Billy Knight. I have more faith in Ferry making the right pick if that happens.


Despite the fact three out of four 1st round picks failed to produce before the team gave up on them?
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Post#15 » by hawkschop1 » Fri May 8, 2015 12:31 am

give me jerian grant at #15 please!
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Post#16 » by Hawk Eye » Fri May 8, 2015 12:36 am

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atlantabbq99 wrote:But i also remember DeAndre Jordan falling in the draft and going right past the Hawks, but that was with Billy Knight. I have more faith in Ferry making the right pick if that happens.


Despite the fact three out of four 1st round picks failed to produce before the team gave up on them?


Yea I'm not very confident in ferry's drafting. The truth is in the pudding and we should have every reason to doubt ferry when 3 of our 4 1st round picks have failed us.
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Re: Too early to talk draft? 

Post#17 » by td00 » Fri May 8, 2015 2:29 am

hawkschop1 wrote:give me jerian grant at #15 please!


I couldn't complain if that happened....guy has good bloodlines and he could make this roster. But Mack, DS, or JT would have to be moved.
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Re: Too early to talk draft? 

Post#18 » by td00 » Fri May 8, 2015 2:31 am

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td00 wrote:I'm a big UK fan, but if you want a guy to help you sooner than later, I'm not taking Booker at 15. Jenkins can do what Booker can.
Lyles could be a terrific fit in the rotation, and he's projected in that area. Tyus Jones is just an insurance plan for Denis or JT.

I wanted KJ McDaniels last year, because we were thin at SF and SG after trading Lou. I still would like to see us get KJMcD and make him our Igguodala at a cheap rate of about 3/9M.

You guys going with BPA or fill a need at our bonus 15th pick?


Booker doesn't have a spinal injury, John Jenkins does. Booker is a freshmen, John Jenkins came out as a senior.

That is a good idea about KJD. I don't think the sixers would accept, but it wouldn't hurt to offer the #15 for a young athletic 3pt shooting wing player like KJD.


KJMcD is in Houston right now, out with a fractured wrist. Still has some proving to do, but I like his overall skillset.
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Re: Too early to talk draft? 

Post#19 » by Phunkabilly » Fri May 8, 2015 4:30 am

PMOTT3 wrote:
PandaKidd wrote:http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2015/5/7/ ... ey-johnson


I saw this today but wasn't able see the full mock. I was only able to see that they predicted SJ to fall to us at #15. Do you have the full mock from this article or at least 1-15?


Here's Ford's mock. He made it a point to say that this mock was based on what HE would do if he were the GM of each of the teams picking, not necessarily what he thinks the actual team would do. Hence, this is the mock draft he would give every team a grade 'A' for.

Round 1
1. Karl-Anthony Towns, MIN
2. Emmanuel Mudiay, NYK
3. D'Angelo Russell, PHI
4. Jahlil Okafor, LAL
5. Kristaps Porzingis, ORL
6. Myles Turner, SAC
7. Justise Winslow, DEN
8. Mario Hezonja, DET
9. Kelly Oubre, CHA
10. Sam Dekker, MIA
11. Willie Cauley-Stein, IND
12. Kevon Looney, UTA
13. Cameron Payne, PHX
14. R.J. Hunter, OKC
15. Stanley Johnson, ATL
16. Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, BOS
17. Frank Kaminsky, MIL
18. Jerian Grant, HOU
19. Bobby Portis, WAS
20. Montrezl Harrell, TOR
21. Tyus Jones, DAL
22. Delon Wright, CHI
23. Trey Lyles, POR
24. Devin Booker, CLE
25. Christian Wood, MEM
26. Justin Anderson, SA
27. Tyler Harvey, LAL
28. Robert Upshaw, BOS
29. Terry Rozier, BRK
30. Jarell Martin, GSW

Round 2
31. Rashad Vaughn, MIN
32. Cliff Alexander, HOU
33. Cedi Osman, BOS
34. Michael Qualls, LAL
35. Chris McCullough, PHI
36. Kenneth Smith, MIN
37. Michael Frazier II, PHI
38. Dakari Johnson, DET
39. Joseph Young, CHA
40. Guillermo Hernangomez, MIA
41. Moussa Diagne, BRK
42. Aleksandar Vezenkov, UTA
43. Andrew Harrison, IND
44. Timothe Luwawu, PHX
45. Chris Walker, BOS
46. Nikola Milutinov, MIL
47. Vince Hunter, PHI
48. Guillermo Vives, OKC
49. Mouhammadou Jaiteh, WAS
50. Alan Williams, ATL
51. Nedim Buza, ORL
52. Marc Garcia, DAL
53. Jordan Mickey, CLE
54. Anthony Brown, UTA
55. Richaun Holmes, SA
56. Paul Zipser, NO
57. Keifer Sykes, DEN
58. George de Paula, PHI
59. Olivier Hanlan, ATL
60. Arturas Gudaitis, PHI
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Re: Too early to talk draft? 

Post#20 » by Hawk Eye » Fri May 8, 2015 5:22 am

^ thanks! Very interesting selections for sure.

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