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Re: What's wrong with the Hawks?

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:14 pm
by Jamaaliver
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afectar wrote:I do not think Dennis and Howard are the problem. I think it's more of poor spacing and bad shooting.

The easy solution would be to space the floor with shooters and have Dennis and Dwight run pick'n' roll all game long, but we lack the shooters at every position at this point.

Bazemore is looking worst then our rookie draft picks out there. He truly believes he's a superstar out there :lol:


Yep...this all makes sense.

And the regression on the defensive end is noteworthy, also. It's the result of a lack of effort, cohesiveness and teamwork.

Re: What's wrong with the Hawks?

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:33 am
by PandaKidd
They should shop Millsap/korver HARD, this team isn't winning a title and believing they'll catch lightning in a bottle like 2015 is stupid.

Re: What's wrong with the Hawks?

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:18 am
by simon24
PandaKidd wrote:They should shop Millsap/korver HARD, this team isn't winning a title and believing they'll catch lightning in a bottle like 2015 is stupid.


I wouldn't mind Millsap for Dudley (starter), Chriss (PF of the future) and 2018 Heat 1st (I don't expect the Heat to be much better next season). PHX keeps Booker and their 2017 1st.

Korver would be lucky to fetch a 2nd rounder.

Re: What's wrong with the Hawks?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:26 pm
by Jamaaliver
...the Hawks' most used lineup/preferred starting five is being manhandled by the opposition. The combination of Dwight Howard, Kyle Korver, Paul Millsap, Bazemore and Schroder gets outscored by 7.8 points per 100 possessions—a league-worst differential.

Atlanta's offensive warts are unsolvable without a trade.
Here

Re: What's wrong with the Hawks?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:05 pm
by jayu70
Jamaaliver wrote:
...the Hawks' most used lineup/preferred starting five is being manhandled by the opposition. The combination of Dwight Howard, Kyle Korver, Paul Millsap, Bazemore and Schroder gets outscored by 7.8 points per 100 possessions—a league-worst differential.

Atlanta's offensive warts are unsolvable without a trade.
Here

Are these numbers based on the start of the season when Korver was still the starter? The starters struggled to start the season while the bench played well.

Re: What's wrong with the Hawks?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:18 pm
by Jamaaliver
jayu70 wrote:Are these numbers based on the start of the season when Korver was still the starter? The starters struggled to start the season while the bench played well.



The stats can be found Here.


It appears to just be a general look at what lineup has played the most minutes together dating back to the start of the season (and the 9-2 start).

The new starting five is +12 in limited minutes.

Re: What's wrong with the Hawks?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:25 pm
by D21
Jamaaliver wrote:
...the Hawks' most used lineup/preferred starting five is being manhandled by the opposition. The combination of Dwight Howard, Kyle Korver, Paul Millsap, Bazemore and Schroder gets outscored by 7.8 points per 100 possessions—a league-worst differential.

Atlanta's offensive warts are unsolvable without a trade.
Here


This outscore is not due to offense only, but offense and defense.
It's better in recent games, so let's see what happens in the next games before thinking that only a trade can fix it.
We have a problem of lineups use, we need to find the best lineups and make Dennis and Dwight have more impact on the floor.