Should Hawks bring back Iso-Joe for our playoff run?

Post #1 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:12 pm

Reports indicate JJ might be bought out of his contract by Brooklyn.

Soaring Down South and Peachtree Hoops both briefly discussed the prospects of bringing Joe back to improve the wing rotation.

The Hawks need help on the wing as the trio of Kyle Korver, Kent Bazemore and Thabo Sefolosha, while serviceable, haven’t been what the team has expected them to be to this point.

The addition of a player like Joe Johnson would not only stabilize the rotation, but would give Coach Bud another versatile player that can play multiple positions and who has the ability to guard both Lebron James and Jimmy Butler...

He’s still a guy who can score the basketball from anywhere on the court but only in spurts...and the lure of playing with old friends Al Horford and Jeff Teague could be enough to sway him to come back to Atlanta.

Thought?
Predictions?

Concerns?

Post #2 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:33 pm

My first thought...no way this happens. There's a half dozen other teams that would be better with a vet like JJ added to the fold. WAS, CHI, LAC, Indy, DET, NY all come to mind.

With that said, if he did come back he'd be a great addition for a team that goes through scoring droughts in the playoffs and has no real SF on the roster. JJ could give us (or any team) the type of big, late game heroics Pierce gave WAS last year. But clearly he'd have to buy-in to the free flowing offense this team now embraces.

Concerns: he could push another 2nd tier opponent above his with his addition. (Particularly Indy)
He might have trouble buying into his role as role player if brought back.
Who would be jettisoned should he come back? (Shelvin Mack!!!)

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Post #3 » by **ATL Boy** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:41 pm

I'd actually love to bring Joe back, but as a bench piece. He can more than hold his own on defense, and can be a scoring spark on offense. He also wouldn't be bad for a little bit of ISO when we enter a scoring draught in the playoffs.

My main concern is that he doesn't know this system, and it'll take him a while to learn it like with THJ. I don't him getting relegated to the bench would be a big problem. Joe never had a huge ego.

But at the end of the day, I don't think he'd really want to come on account of the fact that our fans constantly boo him every time he plays here.

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atlantabbq99 · Post #4 » by **atlantabbq99** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:05 am

Like i always say.... Yes, if the price is right.

My right price would be 2-3 million a year. Which is Elton Brand prices.

atlantabbq99 · Post #5 » by **atlantabbq99** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:09 am

Jamaaliver wrote:My first thought...no way this happens. There's a half dozen other teams that would be better with a vet like JJ added to the fold. WAS, CHI, LAC, Indy, DET, NY all come to mind.

With that said, if he did come back he'd be a great addition for a team that goes through scoring droughts in the playoffs and has no real SF on the roster. JJ could give us (or any team) the type of big, late game heroics Pierce gave WAS last year. But clearly he'd have to buy-in to the free flowing offense this team now embraces.

Concerns: he could push another 2nd tier opponent above his with his addition. (Particularly Indy)
He might have trouble buying into his role as role player if brought back.
Who would be jettisoned should he come back? (Shelvin Mack!!!)

For me, OKC comes to mind.

MaceCase · Post #6 » by **MaceCase** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:54 am

I don't think he offers any more to the team than Stackhouse and T-Mac did in 11-12'. There aren't enough forks to stick in him as a player and he most definitely won't give you any locker room presence to make up for his eroded skills.

MaceCase · Post #7 » by **MaceCase** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:41 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/686413749880623104[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/686414527747903488[/tweet]

Seeing as this is Joe I doubt he's hot on the idea of leaving money on the table and the expenditure of having to find a new very likely temporary home.

jayu70 · Post #8 » by **jayu70** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:48 pm

Joe is all about the money. He will give nothing back.

ChuckChilly · Post #9 » by **ChuckChilly** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:52 pm

Smart move. He only has about 4 months left to play there. Why give anything up?

Post #10 » by **HMFFL** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:59 am

I doubt JJ would chose the New York Knicks from a financial situation.
Sure, Joe Johnson should be very stable, but remember the article detailing his free agency, and how he would have basically needed two properties had he joined the Knicks. The practice facility is supposedly not close to the arena.

I'd love to have Joe Johnson back at a very low price.
The money would need to be similar to the one that Deron Williams received from Dallas. I doubt we make a move for him until free agency, but I believe it makes sense to bring him back, if he's willing to come off our bench. I have many good memories of Joe during his days with us and we had a great deal of success with him during a time that was brutal for us fans due to our ownership being involved in a court battle. His contract was the main negative during his time with us and our system.

PandaKidd · Post #11 » by **PandaKidd** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:16 pm

UH YES, but hes not seaking a buyout so, there goes that. He would be the best SF on your team but a mile.

Having said that, i would prob put him off the bench and play 22-24 minutes a game. I would totally bring him on. Wouldnt hesitate especially because it would be CHEAP.

Rip2137 · Post #12 » by **Rip2137** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:34 pm

Who would you take minutes from so that a less effective Joe Johnson can get his minutes? I find that opening quote hilarious. How are Bazemore, Thabo and Korver "serviceable" but the guy that is shooting worse than all of them(36% and 33% from 2 and 3) and defending worse than ALL of them(insane...I know) making the rotation better?

Joe could help some teams as a backup wing, but we don't have anyone at the wing positions that he should take minutes from. maybe those Hardaway/Holiday/Pattersen minutes, but that isn't much.

Post #13 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:31 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #14 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:53 pm

That's a solid list of teams that intend on pursuing him.
Cut Houston out because I doubt he'd join them and the same for Toronto.
Between Cleveland, Miami, and our beloved Hawks, I believe Miami can be removed from the list.

Post #15 » by **ATL Boy** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:56 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/702885100380229632[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/702885541096755200[/tweet]

Joe Johnson Interested In Playing For Hawks
February 25th 2016 at 10:29am CST by Chuck Myron
Joe Johnson has interest in joining the Hawks if he shakes free from the Nets, several sources tell Chris Vivlamore of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. That adds some doubt to the notion that Johnson would sign with the Cavaliers if he becomes a free agent this season, as Chris Haynes of the Northeast Ohio Media Group and the Cleveland Plain Dealer had heard. The Nets and Johnson have reportedly begun buyout talks.

Only three Hawks, Jeff Teague, Al Horford and Kirk Hinrich, remain from the seven seasons Johnson spent with Atlanta between 2005 and 2012, Vivlamore notes. The Hawks originally signed Johnson to the contract that pays him nearly $24.895MM this season before trading him to the Nets in the 2012 offseason. The 34-year-old would be giving up a portion of that salary in exchange for his way off the 15-42 Nets if the sides work a buyout deal, and he’d be available much more cheaply should he clear waivers, as would be expected.

Atlanta has an open roster spot and can offer Johnson a prorated portion of the room exception, which would work out to about $2MM. That’s not as much as the Thunder, who can offer about $2.4MM, have to spend, but it’s more than the Cavaliers and several others. The Celtics, Rockets, Heat and Raptors are also in pursuit, according to Marc Stein of ESPN.com, who broke the story of the buyout talks between Johnson and the Nets. Johnson would have to hit waivers no later than March 1st to be eligible to play for the Hawks or any team other than Brooklyn in the postseason, and that would largely represent Johnson’s motivation to do the buyout, since the Nets have virtually no shot of making the playoffs.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/02/joe-johnson-interested-in-playing-for-hawks.html

Let's bring Joe home.

PandaKidd · Post #16 » by **PandaKidd** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:57 pm

Short answer, YES.

Post #17 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:59 pm

AJC Article: http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/basketball/hawks-interested-in-signing-johnson-after-buyout/nqXwc/

By the way, what a bad picture of Joe.

ofm05 · Post #18 » by **ofm05** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:04 pm

I would love to have him back. He can still play, not at the level he was before but he could easily score 14 a game right now with wide open corner 3s.

Post #19 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:11 pm

There will be supports and haters, but regardless, Joe lead us to some winning seasons, and he deserves the option to come back. With some guidelines for sure.

Post #20 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:03 pm

C-Viv at AJC reports:

The Hawks are one of several teams with serious interest in signing the seven-time All-Star and Johnson has interest in returning to Atlanta, according to several people familiar with the situation.

Here