Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2)

[King Ken]

I don't think a Bayless for 21 is that horrible of a deal. You eat 8.5M for a first round pick. It's a lot better than what we got when we took on Crawford's deal for the Houston first. It then gives us another first to hopefully package to move up (or replace a lost Minny first that doesn't convey).

I get the idea of not taking on large amounts of salary, but we need to be realistic in the fact that some of are players are bad contracts as well. Noah's deal is bad, but it is only 6M more per season than Plumlee's. Think that dumpinga total of 18M more is worth moving down 25 spots is a bit ridiculous.

I think it is a terrible deal. This isn't last year's class. I don't think the depth is all that great in this class. I also think some of the players we think could be available might not enter this year's class.

I rather hold the space and use it to get a lottery pick in next year's class in a trade. I would much rather take Bayless and #10(LAL) for HOU pick instead.

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If you are going to wait until a team is offering a lottery pick for eating only 8.5M in salary, you are going to be waiting for a while. There is no legitimate reason for Philly to offer to drop down 20 spots for eating a one year deal that is only worth 8.5M.

Uisng that argument the only legitimate way for Atlanta to get rid of Bazemore's or Plumlee's albatross of a contact is to give up our own first round pick.

Even if it's Minny's 1st, it's still a decent deal at the least. That's 8-9 spots.

[atlantabbq99]

I don't think a Bayless for 21 is that horrible of a deal. You eat 8.5M for a first round pick. It's a lot better than what we got when we took on Crawford's deal for the Houston first. It then gives us another first to hopefully package to move up (or replace a lost Minny first that doesn't convey).

I get the idea of not taking on large amounts of salary, but we need to be realistic in the fact that some of are players are bad contracts as well. Noah's deal is bad, but it is only 6M more per season than Plumlee's. Think that dumpinga total of 18M more is worth moving down 25 spots is a bit ridiculous.

I think it is a terrible deal. This isn't last year's class. I don't think the depth is all that great in this class. I also think some of the players we think could be available might not enter this year's class.

I rather hold the space and use it to get a lottery pick in next year's class in a trade. I would much rather take Bayless and #10(LAL) for HOU pick instead.

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Wow i could not disagree more! This is not based on hindsight but even at the time, i pegged the 2017 draft class as one of the weakest in the last 20 years. I remember posting that it was going to be as bad or worst than the Anthony Bennett draft class. I called Fultz, Kyrie and called Lonzo, Ricky Rubio.

This year's draft class, the lottery prospects are being compared to David Robinson, Webber, Harden, Kawhi, Durant, Billups, Curry, etc.

If trading up means taking on a bad contract but results in getting a guy like Carter, Young, or Bridges, i'm 100% in.

[Spud2nique]

I don't think a Bayless for 21 is that horrible of a deal. You eat 8.5M for a first round pick. It's a lot better than what we got when we took on Crawford's deal for the Houston first. It then gives us another first to hopefully package to move up (or replace a lost Minny first that doesn't convey).

I get the idea of not taking on large amounts of salary, but we need to be realistic in the fact that some of are players are bad contracts as well. Noah's deal is bad, but it is only 6M more per season than Plumlee's. Think that dumpinga total of 18M more is worth moving down 25 spots is a bit ridiculous.

I think it is a terrible deal. This isn't last year's class. I don't think the depth is all that great in this class. I also think some of the players we think could be available might not enter this year's class.

I rather hold the space and use it to get a lottery pick in next year's class in a trade. I would much rather take Bayless and #10(LAL) for HOU pick instead.

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Wow i could not disagree more! This is not based on hindsight but even at the time, i pegged the 2017 draft class as one of the weakest in the last 20 years. I remember posting that it was going to be as bad or worst than the Anthony Bennett draft class. I called Fultz, Kyrie and called Lonzo, Ricky Rubio.

This year's draft class, the lottery prospects are being compared to David Robinson, Webber, Harden, Kawhi, Durant, Billups, Curry, etc.

If trading up means taking on a bad contract but results in getting a guy like Carter, Young, or Bridges, i'm 100% in.

I’m in too just don’t yell at kg anymore..

[NYG]

Not a Hawks fan, but trying to get a feel for what the Hawks are trying to do this off-season if some one or a few of you combines could let me know a detailed breakdown of what they’re likely to do this off-season.

[atlantabbq99]

With recent developments, I think getting the Cleveland pick is doable for the Hawks now...

*** Tristan and 2018 first round draft pick for Schroder ***

The only problem is that, i'm not sure if i would do it for the Hawks.

Hawks can walk away with a PG of the future in Young or Khyri Thomas, and 3 young talented bigs, but bring in 4 rookies seems like too many inexperience guys at one time.

[CP War Hawks]

Not sure if Philly still has interest in Dennis, but Bayless and pick 10 for him.

That's a championship ready nucleus for LeBron. One of Mikal, young, or sexton has to be available however.

[MaceCase]

Not sure if Philly still has interest in Dennis, but Bayless and pick 10 for him.

That's a championship ready nucleus for LeBron. One of Mikal, young, or sexton has to be available however.

They already have two PGs that can't shoot whom they spent two #1 picks on, I don't see them burning another #10 for a position of depth.

[HMFFL]

Not sure if Philly still has interest in Dennis, but Bayless and pick 10 for him.

That's a championship ready nucleus for LeBron. One of Mikal, young, or sexton has to be available however.

Dennis is being overvalued.
I doubt he has that type of value or that teams would be willing to give up a top 10 draft pick for him.

[dlb731]

Not sure if Philly still has interest in Dennis, but Bayless and pick 10 for him.

That's a championship ready nucleus for LeBron. One of Mikal, young, or sexton has to be available however.

Dennis is being overvalued.
I doubt he has that type of value or that teams would be willing to give up a top 10 draft pick for him.

Would adding the 19 pick equal out?

[atlantabbq99]

Not sure if Philly still has interest in Dennis, but Bayless and pick 10 for him.

That's a championship ready nucleus for LeBron. One of Mikal, young, or sexton has to be available however.

Dennis is being overvalued.
I doubt he has that type of value or that teams would be willing to give up a top 10 draft pick for him.

Nobody is saying Dennis is good enough to get a top 10 pick, but Dennis and a bad contract is good enough to get a top 10 pick.

[dms269]

Not sure if Philly still has interest in Dennis, but Bayless and pick 10 for him.

That's a championship ready nucleus for LeBron. One of Mikal, young, or sexton has to be available however.

Dennis is being overvalued.
I doubt he has that type of value or that teams would be willing to give up a top 10 draft pick for him.

Nobody is saying Dennis is good enough to get a top 10 pick, but Dennis and a bad contract is good enough to get a top 10 pick.

It then depends on how bad of a contract. Noah and the 9th? Probably. Bayless? Nope.

[ATL Boy]

I think we have to make due with the fact that Dennis Schroder isn't going to be that valuable on the trade market.

He has a decent contract and is proficient at getting to the rim but nobody is giving big time value for a score first PG who can't shoot and doesn't play defense, especially when PG is a position which almost every team has.

I thought at the beginning of the year that Dennis could showcase himself as a first option and possibly get us a nice mid-lotto pick. That hasn't been the case.


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[macd-gm]

Dennis + #19 to the Knicks should move us up to their slot.

[dms269]

Dennis + #19 to the Knicks should move us up to their slot.

Only if we are eating Noah and even then it might be iffy.

[tbhawksfan1]

Noah looks like a streach buy out. I think they're going to eat the money themselves and not give up a nice pick

[atlantabbq99]

Helping LA get Lebron...

#12 and Tobias and Marjanovic for the Hawks' 2nd round pick.

Clippers free up cap while still keeping Jordan. Hawks get two big contracts but get a later lottery pick in return.

[Jamaaliver]

Helping LA get Lebron...

#12 and Tobias and Marjanovic for the Hawks' 2nd round pick.

Clippers free up cap while still keeping Jordan. Hawks get two big contracts but get a later lottery pick in return.

This seems too good to be true.

[atlantabbq99]

Helping LA get Lebron...

#12 and Tobias and Marjanovic for the Hawks' 2nd round pick.

Clippers free up cap while still keeping Jordan. Hawks get two big contracts but get a later lottery pick in return.

This seems too good to be true.

This trade would only happens after the draft when the Clippers are negotiating with Lebron and Paul George.

[Jamaaliver]

Helping LA get Lebron...

#12 and Tobias and Marjanovic for the Hawks' 2nd round pick.

Clippers free up cap while still keeping Jordan. Hawks get two big contracts but get a later lottery pick in return.

This seems too good to be true.

This trade would only happens after the draft when the Clippers are negotiating with Lebron and Paul George.

Well, then there's no chance it happens.

They can't just trade the #12 pick after the draft.

And...it'd be too risky for LAC to draft for us without a confirmed deal in place. (Like the Utah trade for Taurean.)

[atlantabbq99]

^ Anybody picked at 12, besides Lonnie Walker or Robert Williams, would be ok with me.