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Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:05 am
by atlantabbq99
Should the Hawks put Millsap at SF next year?

I think Budz will happily give Horford max. I want to make an offer to Harrison Barnes, but the pickings are very slim at SF this year. However, their does seem to be alot of quality centers in this up and coming free agency like .....

Noah, Dwight , Whiteside, Zaza, Speights, Mozgov, Nene, Motiejunas, Al Jefferson, and Ezeli

Should the Hawks try to pick up a center like Noah or Speights and move Horford to PF and try to move Millsap to SF?

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 4:15 pm
by PandaKidd
NO.

If they were going to make that move they would have done it with Splitter. Millsap cant guard opposing SFs. I dont want him going foot to foot with other SFs. Millsap has the same skillset Horford has at C. Quicker and a better outside shooter than most other PFs.

Moving him to SF makes him a post player mainly and I dont think thats a good idea.

If you want a real center, then Millsap/Horford has to go. And Im ok with that if you turn one of them into a major Wing piece.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 4:16 pm
by PandaKidd
Also,
Millsap/Splitter under contract. IF they offer AH a max deal, I suspect your front court is staying the same, heres no need to bring in any other big name FA. Youll have Scott/Tavares as backups and whatever they decide to do with Muscala.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:41 pm
by MaceCase
No.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 3:40 pm
by jayu70
NO.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 11:39 pm
by HMFFL
Millsap has excelled due to playing at the 4.
I could be wrong but the stats say otherwise.
I believe he's yet to reach his ceiling but he's very close to doing so.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 4:49 am
by King Ken
No. He's kinda a SF on offense but defensively, he's a Josh Smith PF. Not the same players but they both are freelance defenders

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Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 5:49 am
by simon24
atlantabbq99 wrote:Should the Hawks put Millsap at SF next year?

I think Budz will happily give Horford max. I want to make an offer to Harrison Barnes, but the pickings are very slim at SF this year. However, their does seem to be alot of quality centers in this up and coming free agency like .....

Noah, Dwight , Whiteside, Zaza, Speights, Mozgov, Nene, Motiejunas, Al Jefferson, and Ezeli

Should the Hawks try to pick up a center like Noah or Speights and move Horford to PF and try to move Millsap to SF?


No, he should stay at PF.

I wouldn't consider this year's center class as quality. Speights, Nene and Motiejunas are power forwards.

No, Coach Bud need to utilize what he has better. Resign Hump. He should be the first big off the bench and getting Mike Scott minutes.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Thu Jun 9, 2016 7:31 pm
by td00
Millsap is a solid 4............let Al walk and get us 2 replacements with Al's money.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:54 am
by epfou1
I support the Millsap move the SF. I think we should start a big lineup but then switch to small lineup quickly. Similar to what Golden State do and their usage of Bogut. He's their starting C and defensive anchor but only plays 15-20 minutes per game.

SF: Millsap
PF: Horford
C: Splitter (or Noel, if Teague trade rumors are true)
PG: Teague (or Schroder)
SG: Bazemore

I think Millsap is quick enough to play SF on D. And defensively he keeps on getting better, especially his hands with regards to steals per game. I have no doubt he wont struggle to guard small forwards. Size was, he is pretty much the same being 6'8" himself.

With a true center like Splitter (or Noel) at the 5 we can significantly improve our rebounding woes. Especially considering Horford is becoming allergic to the paint.

And moving Korver to the bench can help his efficiency and perhaps preserve his career. I think Korver is now too old to play starters minutes.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:32 pm
by td00
We are on the brink of losing Baze and the threat of Al unless we give him that year 5.

That sounds like a solid step back.

We don't compete with SA, which we model, so what is missing?

Either a scoring 2 or 3....Korver and/or Thabo is not enough.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:28 pm
by Yungsta404
if you want to be a worst team then yes lets move him to SF.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:42 am
by atlantabbq99
epfou1 wrote:I support the Millsap move the SF. I think we should start a big lineup but then switch to small lineup quickly. Similar to what Golden State do and their usage of Bogut. He's their starting C and defensive anchor but only plays 15-20 minutes per game.

SF: Millsap
PF: Horford
C: Splitter (or Noel, if Teague trade rumors are true)
PG: Teague (or Schroder)
SG: Bazemore

I think Millsap is quick enough to play SF on D. And defensively he keeps on getting better, especially his hands with regards to steals per game. I have no doubt he wont struggle to guard small forwards. Size was, he is pretty much the same being 6'8" himself.

With a true center like Splitter (or Noel) at the 5 we can significantly improve our rebounding woes. Especially considering Horford is becoming allergic to the paint.

And moving Korver to the bench can help his efficiency and perhaps preserve his career. I think Korver is now too old to play starters minutes.


Well the whole point to move Sap to SF is if the Hawks can get Dwight or Noah, and plan to resign Horford. I wouldn't force Millsap to SF, just for Splitter.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:48 am
by atlantabbq99
The idea i proposed a month ago about bring in Dwight or Noah now sounds alot more interesting.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:18 pm
by atlantabbq99
ESPN: If the Hawks are unable to thrust themselves into the Durant bidding, sources say that one countermove Atlanta is weighing strongly is the free-agent pursuit of Atlanta native Dwight Howard to play alongside Horford in the frontcourt. Howard will become a free agent Friday after declining his $23 million player option next season with the Houston Rockets.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16584686/atlanta-hawks-want-get-involved-kevin-durant-sweepstakes
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Does this mean the Hawks are moving Millsap to SF?

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:33 pm
by Jamaaliver
atlantabbq99 wrote:
ESPN: If the Hawks are unable to thrust themselves into the Durant bidding, sources say that one countermove Atlanta is weighing strongly is the free-agent pursuit of Atlanta native Dwight Howard to play alongside Horford in the frontcourt. Howard will become a free agent Friday after declining his $23 million player option next season with the Houston Rockets.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16584686/atlanta-hawks-want-get-involved-kevin-durant-sweepstakes
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Does this mean the Hawks are moving Millsap to SF?



I, surprisingly, do like the combination of Howard/Horford in the frontcourt.

But Millsap would be wasted at SF.

It's really hard to say what Bud's thinking is, though. I'd say trade Millsap for wing help, and then start Howard/Horford.

That size, toughness inside likely gives us an advantage on most Eastern Conference teams...particularly in the playoffs.


...but Millsap at SF at this stage of his career makes no sense. I am wholeheartedly against that move.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:32 pm
by jayu70
This is the only way I would experiment with Sap at SF. Bud can stagger the minutes and rotations so that Sap still sees the bulk of his minutes at PF. Just like Al would be the first guy out the lineup to bring in Splitter, Al leaves Millsap slides to PF. D12 leaves, Al returns.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:37 pm
by atlantabbq99
jayu70 wrote:This is the only way I would experiment with Sap at SF. Bud can stagger the minutes and rotations so that Sap still sees the bulk of his minutes at PF. Just like Al would be the first guy out the lineup to bring in Splitter, Al leaves Millsap slides to PF. D12 leaves, Al returns.



You might be right there. Dwight has always had injury issues. Budz could look after Dwight's health and limit him to 25 minutes per game (for the majority of the regular season), and also limiting Sap and Horford to 28-30 minutes a night.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:42 pm
by jayu70
atlantabbq99 wrote:
jayu70 wrote:This is the only way I would experiment with Sap at SF. Bud can stagger the minutes and rotations so that Sap still sees the bulk of his minutes at PF. Just like Al would be the first guy out the lineup to bring in Splitter, Al leaves Millsap slides to PF. D12 leaves, Al returns.



You might be right there. Dwight has always had injury issues. Budz could look after Dwight's health and limit him to 25 minutes per game (for the majority of the regular season), and also limiting Sap and Horford to 28-30 minutes a night.

I would also be ok with bringing Millsap off the bench to backup Al- he can play the Manu or Iggy role and anchor our bench. He'll still play his minutes. Our bench needs more talent.

Re: Should the Hawks move Millsap to SF?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:47 pm
by jayu70
Oh and Dwight would definitely have to take a pay cut. Not interested in gutting team to sign him.