Jeff Teague claims he played with a Torn Patella Tendon

[PandaKidd]

They wont tell y'all but I played with a tear in my patella the whole year and could barely jump or stop but it's coo got that taken care #illbebackdunking #theywontsaythatpart

Courtesy of his IG.

https://www.instagram.com/jeffteague/?hl=en

Thoughts? I have a hard time believing they noticed a torn patella tendon and let him play on it all year long. You can play with a partial tear, its possible. But would the Hawks training staff really allow him to play with that injury and risk long term damage>? (Complete Patella tear, or ACL injury?)

Is he tanking his trade value for us now LOL

[jayu70]

They wont tell y'all but I played with a tear in my patella the whole year and could barely jump or stop but it's coo got that taken care #illbebackdunking #theywontsaythatpart

Courtesy of his IG.

https://www.instagram.com/jeffteague/?hl=en

Thoughts? I have a hard time believing they noticed a torn patella tendon and let him play on it all year long. You can play with a partial tear, its possible. But would the Hawks training staff really allow him to play with that injury and risk long term damage>? (Complete Patella tear, or ACL injury?)

Is he tanking his trade value for us now LOL

Even with a partial tear, I think that would require some kind of rehab of 3-6 weeks before playing again...no?
Makes no sense to risk long term damage.

[PandaKidd]

I tore my ACL so let me play doctor.

The Patella or Patellar Tendon is actually a thick tendon. You can actually harvest half of it to use as a replacement ACL. I couldnt do that because I had already had some symptoms of Arthritis in my knee and they advice against the Patella graft if thats the case.

Ive heard of guys having minor tears and playing through the pain but not at an NBA level. Im talking 40 year old pick up basketball. Im pretty sure if he was having pain all year at some point an MRI was done, at that point I cant see them signing off on letting him play.

You can rehab it and have the tendon heal on its own. Its like MCL/PCL/LCL tears or sprains. The ligaments actually rarely tear, they stretch. The ACL is the only one that pops or breaks consistently and thats based more on its material make up and location.

Im wondering if it was more, he had pain, and an end of season MRI showed a tear? I just cant see team doctors letting a player play an entire year on a torn Patella.

[PandaKidd]

Nonsurgical Treatment

Very small, partial tears respond well to nonsurgical treatment.
Immobilization. Your doctor may recommend you wear a knee immobilizer or brace. This will keep your knee straight to help it heal. You will most likely need crutches to help you avoid putting all of your weight on your leg. You can expect to be in a knee immobilizer or brace for 3 to 6 weeks.

Physical therapy. Once the initial pain and swelling has settled down, physical therapy can begin. Specific exercises can restore strength and range of motion.

While you are wearing the brace, your doctor may recommend exercises to strengthen your quadriceps muscles. Straight-leg raises are often prescribed. As time goes on, your doctor or therapist will unlock your brace. This will allow you to move more freely with a greater range of motion. You will be prescribed more strengthening exercises as you heal.

This is what has me confused about this

Surgical Treatment

Most people require surgery to regain knee function. Surgical repair reattaches the torn tendon to the kneecap.

People who require surgery do better if the repair is performed soon after the injury. Early repair may prevent the tendon from scarring and tightening into a shortened position.

Hospital stay. Although tendon repairs are sometimes done on an outpatient basis, most people do stay in the hospital at least one night after this operation. Whether or not you will need to stay overnight will depend on your medical needs.

The surgery may be performed with regional (spinal) anesthetic which numbs your lower body, or with a general anesthetic that will put you to sleep.

Procedure. To reattach the tendon, sutures are placed in the tendon and then threaded through drill holes in the kneecap. The sutures are tied at the top of the kneecap. Your surgeon will carefully tie the sutures to get the correct tension in the tendon. This will also make sure the position of the kneecap closely matches that of your uninjured kneecap.

I need to know more about the pros and cons, but I cant see an NBA player not electing for surgery

[Jamaaliver]

Is he tanking his trade value for us now LOL

Maybe...76ers Fan Sites reacting to the injury news:

...one thing is certain and that is the trade involving the Philadelphia 76ers is now in jeopardy.

The trade involving Nerlens Noel was already hotly debated, and now with this injury news it gives the Philadelphia 76ers leverage to either pull out of the deal or get Teague by trading assets of lesser value.

Teague’s agent must be pretty upset, as being traded to the Philadelphia 76ers would have given Teague the opportunity to rack up some bloated stats which would lead to big money when he becomes a free agent at the end of the 2016-17 season.

The critics of the Teague trade can now rejoice as the likeliness of the trade occurring has dropped considerably. The team had been rumored to trade one of their two big men and the most likely deal involving Noel is seemingly moot thanks to Teague’s Instagram.

Here

[PandaKidd]

The timeline doesnt make any sense either. If he had a partial tear, the treatment usually is rehab, like hes doing now. I dont remember him missing any time all year really.

Again, just guessing, but I think maybe they found it in a post season MRI checkout or something.

Whats really telling is he deleted it all already. Jeff Teague is the king of posting and deleting cryptic **** on IG. hes also not very smart, he just hurt HIMSELF very badly.

[PandaKidd]

Mike Mazzeo ‏@MazzESPN 14m14 minutes ago

Source: #Hawks Jeff Teague played through a partial tear. Had MRI after the season, no surgery. Plan for him to be back on court soon.

[ATL Boy]

Jeff Teague really needs to learn how to shut up sometimes. Not only this, but also the cryptic messages on his IG that Panda just mentioned, it's like dealing with a teenage girl.

Idk about y'all but this has really soured me on Teague. He just killed his trade value for what? Trying to prove that he's tough? Man get out of here with that. I can't wait for this dude to be off my team.

[Jamaaliver]

This nonsense has spread like friggin' wildfire:

...perhaps his torn patella tendon isn't that serious but it is strange that he wouldn't rest during the season to let the injury heal properly. Especially since...Teague almost seems bitter that he had to play through it during the season.

Also, Teague has been on the trade block since basically the beginning of last season...If he is injured that could have an impact on any trades the Hawks will try to make that involve him.

Overall though this is just a strange situation as normally players don't announce that they've been injured. That's for their respective teams to do. But with Teague sharing his injury status, it seems like the Hawks and him aren't truly seeing eye-to-eye which may be one reason Atlanta is trying to trade him.

CBS Sports

The patellar tendon attaches the kneecap to the tibia. Teague's recovery time will depend on the severity of the injury.
A torn patellar would have been impossible to play through, as it would have left his kneecap without stability. These injuries are uncommon for NBA players or athletes in general.

...the Hawks kept Teague on the floor throughout the season and did not disclose much about his status.

Philly would have discovered the injury in the post-trade physical, anyway.

Even if Philly knew, it calls its reasoning into question even more.

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[td00]

Teague is now officially ours until the end of his deal. He will now have to go out and prove himself for another long term deal.

If you move DS, I would hope it gets us lower in the lottery listing so a Jaylen Brown or Jamaal Murray is an option. Many would accept that type of move.

Is DS + all our draft picks this year enough to move down to the 5th slot?

[Geaux_Hawks]

Teague is now officially ours until the end of his deal. He will now have to go out and prove himself for another long term deal.

If you move DS, I would hope it gets us lower in the lottery listing so a Jaylen Brown or Jamaal Murray is an option. Many would accept that type of move.

Is DS + all our draft picks this year enough to move down to the 5th slot?

I'm not doing an all in deal to get Jaylen Brown. If he falls around 8-10, then I would consider trading one of our PG's or however it may be to get him, but I wouldn't blow my load at once to get him. He's still a ways away from being an impact player, and I mean 3-4 years away.

[Geaux_Hawks]

Mike Mazzeo ‏@MazzESPN 14m14 minutes ago

Source: #Hawks Jeff Teague played through a partial tear. Had MRI after the season, no surgery. Plan for him to be back on court soon.

Seeing as it's more of a partial tear than a complete tear, I think we're still okay as far trading him.

[td00]

Teague is now officially ours until the end of his deal. He will now have to go out and prove himself for another long term deal.

If you move DS, I would hope it gets us lower in the lottery listing so a Jaylen Brown or Jamaal Murray is an option. Many would accept that type of move.

Is DS + all our draft picks this year enough to move down to the 5th slot?

I'm not doing an all in deal to get Jaylen Brown. If he falls around 8-10, then I would consider trading one of our PG's or however it may be to get him, but I wouldn't blow my load at once to get him. He's still a ways away from being an impact player, and I mean 3-4 years away.

I believe you can get a deal done with a Top 8 draft team with the assets I listed. 4-5 of those teams needs a PG and our draft picks aren't going to account for much any time soon. A draft slot that high, to go along with the potential of losing Al opens up a lot of cap space to perhaps keep Baze. Al is going to want more than 25M/year, and that is not going to improve our roster enough. The ONLY way we get a potential superstar is to draft one. The FA option isn't happening.
We're fortunate the DS draft pick worked out for us. I'd trade one of our PGs for a solid starter at the 3 any day.

[Geaux_Hawks]

Teague is now officially ours until the end of his deal. He will now have to go out and prove himself for another long term deal.

If you move DS, I would hope it gets us lower in the lottery listing so a Jaylen Brown or Jamaal Murray is an option. Many would accept that type of move.

Is DS + all our draft picks this year enough to move down to the 5th slot?

I'm not doing an all in deal to get Jaylen Brown. If he falls around 8-10, then I would consider trading one of our PG's or however it may be to get him, but I wouldn't blow my load at once to get him. He's still a ways away from being an impact player, and I mean 3-4 years away.

I believe you can get a deal done with a Top 8 draft team with the assets I listed. 4-5 of those teams needs a PG and our draft picks aren't going to account for much any time soon. A draft slot that high, to go along with the potential of losing Al opens up a lot of cap space to perhaps keep Baze. Al is going to want more than 25M/year, and that is not going to improve our roster enough. The ONLY way we get a potential superstar is to draft one. The FA option isn't happening.
We're fortunate the DS draft pick worked out for us. I'd trade one of our PGs for a solid starter at the 3 any day.

Agreed, but 'm not trying to throw in picks to get him either.

[MaceCase]

I don't get some of these Philly guys' logic, it's like they didn't like the trade rumor to begin with and will grasp at any straw in hopes it doesn't go down. If he played through the season with a fricking patellar tendon tear then that would help explain the drop off from his All Star season and also that he's superman. If you can put up that kind of production when injured then imagine what he could do when healthy.

The only way his value is tanked is if the injury is more serious and could cost him some time in the season which is unlikely given the nature of the injury or if a cold war has really erupted between him and the front office.

[PandaKidd]

So my perception is he's at war with the FO. He's insinuating the team made or was aware of his injury all season.

The whole "they won't tell y'all". Who is THEY? The Hawks FO.

So he's prob killed any trade with Philly, but hes also made it uncomfortable in Atlanta.

Having said that, any trade physical would have caught this injury obviously.

There's no way he's a hawk next year imo

[HMFFL]

Teague trying to prove he's a tough guy and wanting more Atlanta fan support?
The writing has been on the wall and now that it's even more public that we're shopping him he does this BS.

[PandaKidd]

https://twitter.com/24Bazemore/status/741246529013460993

Mitch Rapp ‏@24Bazemore 29m29 minutes ago

I'm off Twitter for one day and come back to this!?! Ah hxLL no

[Jamaaliver]

Someone name Mike Mazzeo did a write-up on the injury, speaking with a source off the record:
A source described the nature of Teague's injury to ESPN as a partial tear. He did not require surgery following an MRI taken after the season and is currently resting, but he should be back on the court soon, a source said. Here




Mike Budenholzer's comments at the end of the season:

He is kind of, for lack of a better word, managing his. I don't know if it is knees and ankles. I would say it is hard to know what he shares and what he doesn't. I think he was relatively healthy and he was good so many nights and he is such a good player. I do think he was managing it a little bit like a lot of NBA guys do

[PandaKidd]

I posted that earlier broseph.

Yeah, so reading some more, a strain/tear is likely and its not able to be seen unless an MRI is done. So, you can have minor tears and all you do is rest. Think of taking a piece of bread and stretching it, thats what the Patella tendon does. Or play dough.

Its possible he had pain and symptoms and then an MRI at the end of the year showed a partial tear.

Again though, these guys give out MRIs like its candy. I cant imagine a guard saying his knee is bothering him all year long and they never do an MRI on it. His WHOLE YEAR comment, he must be wrong.