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If the Hawks can't resign Millsap, is Mike Muscala the Hawks PF of the future? or will the Hawks look to Greg Monroe, Serge Ibaka, Nerlens Noel in free agency?

Muscala is also a RFA but I think coach Bud loves him and won't let him get away.

I think Moose is a tremendous bench piece the way he's playing but I would look toward FA for a starting PF if Sap leaves.

Derrick Favors would be my first option. He's off to a slow start this season but just had a great few years. Reports are that Utah's prioritizing signing George Hill over him at the moment, and Favors went to Georgia Tech.


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Moose is our backup PF of the future.

ATL Boy wrote:Muscala is also a RFA but I think coach Bud loves him and won't let him get away.

I think Moose is a tremendous bench piece the way he's playing but I would look toward FA for a starting PF if Sap leaves.

Derrick Favors would be my first option. He's off to a slow start this season but just had a great few years. Reports are that Utah's prioritizing signing George Hill over him at the moment, and Favors went to Georgia Tech.


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Ya i have already mentioned Favors before...

Looking at the future: Derrick Favors
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1459318

and the Hawks would be smart to target him in free agency, but Favors won't be a free agent until 2018, and the Hawks don't have any assets to trade for Favors now.

If things don't go well with Sap, we could see Muscala starting for one year with Dwight before the Hawks can make a push for Favors.

Nah. But Prince is the future starting SF, though.

ATL Boy wrote:Muscala is also a RFA but I think coach Bud loves him and won't let him get away.

I think Moose is a tremendous bench piece the way he's playing but I would look toward FA for a starting PF if Sap leaves.

Derrick Favors would be my first option. He's off to a slow start this season but just had a great few years. Reports are that Utah's prioritizing signing George Hill over him at the moment, and Favors went to Georgia Tech.


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I could imagine the Nets could bid big for him.

Favors is not a FA this summer.

atlantabbq99 wrote:

ATL Boy wrote:Muscala is also a RFA but I think coach Bud loves him and won't let him get away.

I think Moose is a tremendous bench piece the way he's playing but I would look toward FA for a starting PF if Sap leaves.

Derrick Favors would be my first option. He's off to a slow start this season but just had a great few years. Reports are that Utah's prioritizing signing George Hill over him at the moment, and Favors went to Georgia Tech.


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Ya i have already mentioned Favors before...

Looking at the future: Derrick Favors
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1459318

and the Hawks would be smart to target him in free agency, but Favors won't be a free agent until 2018, and the Hawks don't have any assets to trade for Favors now.

If things don't go well with Sap, we could see Muscala starting for one year with Dwight before the Hawks can make a push for Favors.

I'm sure the Hawks could find a vet to sign (Jeff Green) or trade the first for a vet like Deng.

simon24 wrote:I'm sure the Hawks could find a vet to sign (Jeff Green) or trade the first for a vet like Deng.

Agreed. Muscala is a nice role player, but pairing him with D12 for an extended amount of time (without massively upgrading another position in the process) would be a huge waste of Dwight's productive years.

I say 'No'. Muscala isn't the PF of the future. And, really, shouldn't be considered more than a backup.

simon24 wrote:

atlantabbq99 wrote:

ATL Boy wrote:Muscala is also a RFA but I think coach Bud loves him and won't let him get away.

I think Moose is a tremendous bench piece the way he's playing but I would look toward FA for a starting PF if Sap leaves.

Derrick Favors would be my first option. He's off to a slow start this season but just had a great few years. Reports are that Utah's prioritizing signing George Hill over him at the moment, and Favors went to Georgia Tech.


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Ya i have already mentioned Favors before...

Looking at the future: Derrick Favors
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1459318

and the Hawks would be smart to target him in free agency, but Favors won't be a free agent until 2018, and the Hawks don't have any assets to trade for Favors now.

If things don't go well with Sap, we could see Muscala starting for one year with Dwight before the Hawks can make a push for Favors.

I'm sure the Hawks could find a vet to sign (Jeff Green) or trade the first for a vet like Deng.

Jeff Green??? pp--eeeewww.
Deng is too old to trade for a 1st. He hasn't looked good in LAL so far.

I was thinking that if Millsap doesn't come back, maybe the Hawks can offer Greg Monroe a one year deal if the promise him a starting spot so that he can pad his stats and get a bigger pay day in 2018 and then by that time, the Hawks can let him walk and go after Favors.

For some reason I did think Favors was a FA this summer. Would've been a perfect transition.

If Millsap leaves I like the idea of signing a 1 year stop gap at PF, but it's imperative that that stopgap be a knockdown midrange shooter to compliment Dwight.


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atlantabbq99 wrote:I was thinking that if Millsap doesn't come back, maybe the Hawks can offer Greg Monroe a one year deal if the promise him a starting spot so that he can pad his stats and get a bigger pay day in 2018 and then by that time, the Hawks can let him walk and go after Favors.

NO...in this case, I'd rather start our Moose. Monroe next to Dwight is a disaster.
Maybe there is an offseason trade available with the 2018 Minny pic in play.
Favors seems to be injured a lot though..

atlantabbq99 wrote:I was thinking that if Millsap doesn't come back, maybe the Hawks can offer Greg Monroe a one year deal if the promise him a starting spot so that he can pad his stats and get a bigger pay day in 2018 and then by that time, the Hawks can let him walk and go after Favors.

NO...in this case, I'd rather start our Moose. Monroe next to Dwight is a disaster.
Maybe there is an offseason trade available with the 2018 Minny pic in play.
Favors seems to be injured a lot though..

I do like Greg Monroe in the right situation...but playing next to Dwight would NOT be an ideal fit. We'd be making the same mistake DET did playing Monroe next to Andre Drummond.

The spacing issues would be problematic and greatly limit the offense.


I prefer a deep-shooting big that can stretch the floor and possibly slide over to another position in the right lineup.


Potential targets via trade or Free Agency:

Danilo Gallinari
Myles Turner
Marvin Williams
Leonard Meyers
AL Horford

ATL Boy wrote:For some reason I did think Favors was a FA this summer. Would've been a perfect transition.

Favors would indeed be a perfect trade target. I'd love to get a number of talented players from that underachieving Utah squad on our team.

atlantabbq99 wrote:I was thinking that if Millsap doesn't come back, maybe the Hawks can offer Greg Monroe a one year deal if the promise him a starting spot so that he can pad his stats and get a bigger pay day in 2018 and then by that time, the Hawks can let him walk and go after Favors.

Monroe is not a PF. He's a C. He's a cancer in the locker room and make his team defenses worst. It's not a coincidence teams get better after he leaves.

ATL Boy wrote:For some reason I did think Favors was a FA this summer. Would've been a perfect transition.

If Millsap leaves I like the idea of signing a 1 year stop gap at PF, but it's imperative that that stopgap be a knockdown midrange shooter to compliment Dwight.


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Terrence Jones? They started together in Houston.

Jamaaliver wrote:I do like Greg Monroe in the right situation...but playing next to Dwight would NOT be an ideal fit. We'd be making the same mistake DET playing Monroe next to Andre Drummond.

The spacing issues would be problematic and greatly limit the offense.


I prefer a deep-shooting big that can stretch the floor and possibly slide over to another position in the right lineup.


Potential targets via trade or Free Agency:

Danilo Gallinari
Myles Turner
Marvin Williams
Leonard Meyers
AL Horford

ATL Boy wrote:For some reason I did think Favors was a FA this summer. Would've been a perfect transition.

Favors would indeed be a perfect trade target. I'd love to get a number of talented players from that underachieving Utah squad on our team.

Gallo would be good.
Pacers aren't trading Turner.
CHA isn't trading Marvin.
I'm not familiar with Meyers.
Horford definitely isn't getting traded.

Zach Randolph might also be willing to sign a one year deal with the Hawks if the Hawks can promise him a starting spot for one year? Just like how the Heat promised Joe a starting spot for just one year.

Greg Monroe is a bit overpaid, but even if he's not a good defender, he's enough good on the offensive end to have a positive impact on the team.
I can believe at this moment he's a cancer, because if he was, he would certainly not have one of the best Plus-Minus of MIL : 4th best at +7.8 this season, 3rd best at +4.3 last season, and had better one than Drummond in DET when they were playing C and PF.

Yes, the defense decrease, but the offense is improving a lot more with him
- last season : defense was 4pts better without him, but offense was 7pts better with him
- this season : defense is 1pt better without Monroe, but offense is 11pts better with him

The goal is not to defend the more you can, but to outscore opponents the more you can.
Now, I understand that a defensive minded coach can want to trade him, to get players on the same balance. But I can't believe he's a cancer.
Now, he's not the best fit with Dwight

D21 wrote:Now, he's not the best fit with Dwight

You should have started and ended with that.