Dwight working on his 3 point shot?????

[Geaux_Hawks]

Al Horford is shooting 3's still under Brad Stevens

(kills argument that Bud and big men shooting 3's correlates)

[tbhawksfan1]

With Horf, at least you could make an argument. If DH steps out and starts to let it fly from three, time for a new coach

[Jamaaliver]

Al Horford is shooting 3's still under Brad Stevens

(kills argument that Bud and big men shooting 3's correlates)

So, it begs the question:

If Dwight starts shooting three pointers next season, do we honestly believe that Budenholzer has no say, no influence, no preference in the matter?

[Jamaaliver]

In a Tuesday appearance on ESPN’s The Jump, Howard said that he’s been working on his 3-point shot with his shooting coach in Atlanta. He was confident that the work will actually translate to results in NBA games.

Given the style of head coach Mike Budenholzer’s offense, the Hawks rely on shooting and spacing — two aspects that are not a part of Howard’s game. Both Al Horford and Paul Millsap added the 3 to their games during their time in Atlanta. It seems that Howard realizes that his only hope to stay on the court late in games would be proving that he could hit a 3-pointer.

USA Today

[Geaux_Hawks]

Al Horford is shooting 3's still under Brad Stevens

(kills argument that Bud and big men shooting 3's correlates)

So, it begs the question:

If Dwight starts shooting three pointers next season, do we honestly believe that Budenholzer has no say, no influence, no preference in the matter?

You heard it out of Dwight's own mouth. His logic behind adding range to his game is to extend his career. On top of that, the league is evolving into every position being able to space the floor. You've already seen a list of big men extending out to the perimeter and having the ability to pick and pop now. If the league no longer values a back to the basket game(which I think is blown out of proportion), then you will see a lot of offensive big men start to shoot jumpers.

[Years80HAWKS]

This guy (or girl) in the CBS has no idea about basketball technics.
One can be a terrible FT shooter (as DH is) and a much better three shooter.
Dwight's technique is not bad at all. Only he is too strong and his hands too big to properly launch the ball.
He seems much more comfortable shooting from far than from the line.

I do not think DH is going to shoot 8 times during games from 3 or from the top of the key, but he has to keep his defender honest so he cannnot help, get deep into the paint of close out on other players.
DW has to be a mennace so the opposing center has to come out. If DH shoots, even if he fails, th opp C will not be near the rim, so Millsap, Ilyasova, Prince, Dunleavy, Bembry or Baze can fight the off rebound with good chances.

[Jamaaliver]

Al Horford is shooting 3's still under Brad Stevens

(kills argument that Bud and big men shooting 3's correlates)

I don't know about that...but Trav's comments today does more to kill the argument.

About Dwight shooting 3s":

Just heard about it myself. If he can do it great, but at least he’s working!

We haven’t had any conversations about telling him to shoot 3s.

We'll see if D12 3-pt shots make their way into our offense. (Goodness, I hope not.)

[jayu70]

Al Horford is shooting 3's still under Brad Stevens

(kills argument that Bud and big men shooting 3's correlates)

I don't know about that...but Trav's comments today does more to kill the argument.

About Dwight shooting 3s":

Just heard about it myself. If he can do it great, but at least he’s working!

We haven’t had any conversations about telling him to shoot 3s.

We'll see if D12 3-pt shots make their way into our offense. (Goodness, I hope not.)

I think it's much ado about nothing - he worked on his mid-range last offseason and took about maybe 10 total in the season. It wasn't apart of his repertoire where he did it every game. Off season fodder.

[MaceCase]

No, there's plenty ado. Still pretty confident that Dwight is working on his 3 pointers at Bud's behest and it will be featured heavily within his offense just like every other Center he's had.

[New_Hawks_Era]

I think someone's been eating crazy cookies

All those other big men have shown some abilities to shoot long range their whole careers, every last one of them. Dwight on the other hand well let's just say it would be like a cat trying to learn to bark. I just can't see it in my wildest dreams, wildest.

[Geaux_Hawks]

I think someone's been eating crazy cookies

All those other big men have shown some abilities to shoot long range their whole careers, every last one of them. Dwight on the other hand well let's just say it would be like a cat trying to learn to bark. I just can't see it in my wildest dreams, wildest.

It takes time for someone to learn something new and incorporate it into the daily routine. This marks 2 years now that Dwight has been working on his jumper, with more emphasis being put into it this summer it seems. If DH can show his shot has indeed improved, look forward to seeing him hoist a few every now and then.

[jayu70]

I think someone's been eating crazy cookies

All those other big men have shown some abilities to shoot long range their whole careers, every last one of them. Dwight on the other hand well let's just say it would be like a cat trying to learn to bark. I just can't see it in my wildest dreams, wildest.

It takes time for someone to learn something new and incorporate it into the daily routine. This marks 2 years now that Dwight has been working on his jumper, with more emphasis being put into it this summer it seems. If DH can show his shot has indeed improved, look forward to seeing him hoist a few every now and then.

I understand the premise of now and then (sim to the midrange shots this season )but I doubt we see him for example setting a screen and moving to the 3pt line to shoot a 3 on a set play.

[tbhawksfan1]

great conversation

[Jamaaliver]

I'd really like to hear Bud's thoughts on this. He was pushing Horford to start shooting threes more and encouraged him after a summer spent honing his shot. The team benefitted. The player did not.


I really need Bud to keep Dwight playing to his strength. And revamp the offense to better utilize Dwight's inside scoring.


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[Geaux_Hawks]

I think someone's been eating crazy cookies

All those other big men have shown some abilities to shoot long range their whole careers, every last one of them. Dwight on the other hand well let's just say it would be like a cat trying to learn to bark. I just can't see it in my wildest dreams, wildest.

It takes time for someone to learn something new and incorporate it into the daily routine. This marks 2 years now that Dwight has been working on his jumper, with more emphasis being put into it this summer it seems. If DH can show his shot has indeed improved, look forward to seeing him hoist a few every now and then.

I understand the premise of now and then (sim to the midrange shots this season )but I doubt we see him for example setting a screen and moving to the 3pt line to shoot a 3 on a set play.

I think that's the only time we will see him taking a 3. The threat of the dive will/should open up for him to just settle behind the line and shoot compared to them just letting him sit at the perimeter to take one.

[Geaux_Hawks]

I'd really like to hear Bud's thoughts on this. He was pushing Horford to start shooting threes more and encouraged him after a summer spent honing his shot. The team benefitted. The player did not.


I really need Bud to keep Dwight playing to his strength. And revamp the offense to better utilize Dwight's inside scoring.


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I still don't see how Bud gets the blame for Horford taking 3's when he has practically done the same since leaving and playing for a different coach.

[Jamaaliver]

:roll: I still don't see how Bud gets the blame for Horford taking 3's when he has practically done the same since leaving and playing for a different coach.

Again, it's not really 'blame'.


But, Mike Budenholzer is on record as pushing Horford to add a three point shot to his game.

And wanting Horford to shoot them in the games.

[Geaux_Hawks]

:roll: I still don't see how Bud gets the blame for Horford taking 3's when he has practically done the same since leaving and playing for a different coach.

Again, it's not really 'blame'.


But, Mike Budenholzer is on record as pushing Horford to add a three point shot to his game.

And wanting Horford to shoot them in the games.

Shouldn't be anything to be upset about though. We're talking Al Horford being one of the best mid range shooters in all of basketball for a while taking another step back and knocking down a 3. Horford's game was never to be a banger down low.

[Jamaaliver]

Shouldn't be anything to be upset about though. We're talking Al Horford being one of the best mid range shooters in all of basketball for a while taking another step back and knocking down a 3. Horford's game was never to be a banger down low.

Agreed.

Dwight being benched down the stretch of playoff games because we needed better spacing for the offense is more noteworthy.

And it appears this is at least part of the impetus behind extending his range. Especially if, as Trav Schlenk states, the organization never encouraged him to do so.

It makes you wonder who really was behind the Dwight signing. Cause almost every other Center we've leaned heavily on had serious shooting range out to three. (Pero, Horford, Muscala)

So the question becomes: will we change our current system based on the needs/strengths of the player. Or do we change the player to fit our system?

[Geaux_Hawks]

Shouldn't be anything to be upset about though. We're talking Al Horford being one of the best mid range shooters in all of basketball for a while taking another step back and knocking down a 3. Horford's game was never to be a banger down low.

Agreed.

Dwight being benched down the stretch of playoff games because we needed better spacing for the offense is noteworthy.

And it appears this at least part of the impetus behind extending his range. Especially if, as Trav Schlenk states, the organization never encouraged him to do so.

It makes you wonder who really was behind the Dwight signing. Cause almost every other Center we've leaned heavily on had serious shooting range out to three. (Pero, Horford, Muscala)

So the question becomes: will we change our current system based on the needs/strengths of the player. Or do we change the player to fit our system?

I think the thing to remember here is that Bud wanted an inside presence on the boards, and I assume we would have kept Horford along with Sap if 6 million wasn't the deciding factor. I don't think we had intentions of changing our system at all. Howard changing his game seems to be of his own free will to go back to an impact player in the league, which is fine imo if he can do it.