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kg01 wrote:We need to have a (way too)early 2018 free agency thread. I think that's where we'll make our hay. I'll let one of you brainiacs start the thread though. That way, if it bombs, I'll just point 'n laugh from the sidelines.
On topic, w.r.t. '18 (and beyond) draftees, one thing I never want to hear is "so-and-so would be a star in our system". I'm done with them dudes. I want us to get guys who're stars regardless of system. Just my $0.03.
Spud2nique wrote:kg01 wrote:We need to have a (way too)early 2018 free agency thread. I think that's where we'll make our hay. I'll let one of you brainiacs start the thread though. That way, if it bombs, I'll just point 'n laugh from the sidelines.
On topic, w.r.t. '18 (and beyond) draftees, one thing I never want to hear is "so-and-so would be a star in our system". I'm done with them dudes. I want us to get guys who're stars regardless of system. Just my $0.03.
So you want Bud fired?-TMZ type drama ya heard
kg01 wrote:Also, are you caught up on GoT?
Spud2nique wrote:lol I know I was kiddin around. Ya I'm all caught up.. I'm not sure if it's just me but I'm not really that impressed so far lol....I think I've kinda been spoiled by past seasons...I mean I guess things are happening but something is missing. Euron isn't the best villain yet imo.
Jamaaliver wrote:Spud2nique wrote:lol I know I was kiddin around. Ya I'm all caught up.. I'm not sure if it's just me but I'm not really that impressed so far lol....I think I've kinda been spoiled by past seasons...I mean I guess things are happening but something is missing. Euron isn't the best villain yet imo.
Euron is like a cartoon version of a cliché villain. Not fully formed or multi dimensional.
This entire season 7 has been...uneven. Cool to watch, but really dumb when you think about it for more than a minute.
The complete opposite of the early seasons.
jayu70 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:Spud2nique wrote:lol I know I was kiddin around. Ya I'm all caught up.. I'm not sure if it's just me but I'm not really that impressed so far lol....I think I've kinda been spoiled by past seasons...I mean I guess things are happening but something is missing. Euron isn't the best villain yet imo.
Euron is like a cartoon version of a cliché villain. Not fully formed or multi dimensional.
This entire season 7 has been...uneven. Cool to watch, but really dumb when you think about it for more than a minute.
The complete opposite of the early seasons.
When I watch shows like these I try to just be entertained and not try to theorize why, how, where, when too much.
kg01 wrote:jayu70 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:
Euron is like a cartoon version of a cliché villain. Not fully formed or multi dimensional.
This entire season 7 has been...uneven. Cool to watch, but really dumb when you think about it for more than a minute.
The complete opposite of the early seasons.
When I watch shows like these I try to just be entertained and not try to theorize why, how, where, when too much.
Suspend disbelief. But maybe we're just not high-brow enough for @spud2 and @jamaaaaaaaliver
It has been less subtle, I guess but I'm enjoying it.
Spud2nique wrote:kg01 wrote:jayu70 wrote:When I watch shows like these I try to just be entertained and not try to theorize why, how, where, when too much.
Suspend disbelief. But maybe we're just not high-brow enough for @spud2 and @jamaaaaaaaliver
It has been less subtle, I guess but I'm enjoying it.
Walking by nose held high..(learned that lil trick from Mace and his fancy book learnins)..
MaceCase wrote:HBO may be HBO but they still aren't going to and can't cut a check worthy of the Lord of the Rings quadrupology (new made up word, learn it) for any TV show. So with their budget, GoT show runners had to condense the remaining seasons into less episodes to account for all the money being spent on the war scenes and thus pacing will suffer.
Ever wonder why Jon's trusty direwolf wasn't there with him storming Winterfell or ranging up past the Wall on a mission to capture a living skeleton, a job dinstinctly suited for a dog? Because animating that beast for even just 30 seconds costs almost the amount of Spud's yearly donut budget.
kg01 wrote:In an attempt to re-rail, what does everyone see in the Bagley guy? Looks pretty good but what makes him a world-changer? Looks like a skinny Embiid (full disclosure, I'm not all gaga over Embiid either so ...)
kg01 wrote:MaceCase wrote:HBO may be HBO but they still aren't going to and can't cut a check worthy of the Lord of the Rings quadrupology (new made up word, learn it) for any TV show. So with their budget, GoT show runners had to condense the remaining seasons into less episodes to account for all the money being spent on the war scenes and thus pacing will suffer.
Ever wonder why Jon's trusty direwolf wasn't there with him storming Winterfell or ranging up past the Wall on a mission to capture a living skeleton, a job dinstinctly suited for a dog? Because animating that beast for even just 30 seconds costs almost the amount of Spud's yearly donut budget.
But do you force Consuela to watch the episodes then live-act them out for you?
In an attempt to re-rail, what does everyone see in the Bagley guy? Looks pretty good but what makes him a world-changer? Looks like a skinny Embiid (full disclosure, I'm not all gaga over Embiid either so ...)
CBS SportsLine projection model pegged the Hawks at No. 6 overall. From that point, Atlanta ended up with Michigan State forward Miles Bridges.
Bridges was the highest-rated college prospect to return to school, and I'm betting he improves his stock because of it. The combo-forward should lead Michigan State to a Big Ten title and could, along the way, earn National Player of the Year honors. He is, I think, the preseason favorite for that award.
Jamaaliver wrote:This seems like a reasonable range for us to fall in the draft, and this kid would be a worthy selection. (Though not quite a franchise changing player IMO)CBS SportsLine projection model pegged the Hawks at No. 6 overall. From that point, Atlanta ended up with Michigan State forward Miles Bridges.
Bridges was the highest-rated college prospect to return to school, and I'm betting he improves his stock because of it. The combo-forward should lead Michigan State to a Big Ten title and could, along the way, earn National Player of the Year honors. He is, I think, the preseason favorite for that award.Spoiler:
Spud2nique wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:This seems like a reasonable range for us to fall in the draft, and this kid would be a worthy selection. (Though not quite a franchise changing player IMO)CBS SportsLine projection model pegged the Hawks at No. 6 overall. From that point, Atlanta ended up with Michigan State forward Miles Bridges.
Bridges was the highest-rated college prospect to return to school, and I'm betting he improves his stock because of it. The combo-forward should lead Michigan State to a Big Ten title and could, along the way, earn National Player of the Year honors. He is, I think, the preseason favorite for that award.Spoiler:
Pick6-8 range...like him a lot more than Robert Williams whose projected around the same range.
)type of ultra-offensive piece. kg01 wrote:Considering John (Snow) Collins is our 4 of the future, isn't there a tremendous amount of overlap with he and Bridges/Williams? None of them are 3's or 5's. If we end up with a top-8 pick, we're definitely packaging picks for a trade. Or at least, I hope so.
If we keep the pick, I'd prefer the ba-Doncic-a-donk who appears to be dropping a bit (can you really be dropping in August?). Sexton is intriguing as a Jamal Crawford/Chuk McCollum (see what i did there?
Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:Considering John (Snow) Collins is our 4 of the future, isn't there a tremendous amount of overlap with he and Bridges/Williams? None of them are 3's or 5's. If we end up with a top-8 pick, we're definitely packaging picks for a trade. Or at least, I hope so.
If we keep the pick, I'd prefer the ba-Doncic-a-donk who appears to be dropping a bit (can you really be dropping in August?). Sexton is intriguing as a Jamal Crawford/Chuk McCollum (see what i did there?
Yowza!?!?
I like the JC Kid, a lot.
But do we already consider him so untouchable that we wouldn't even consider a higher rated prospect at the same position?
Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:Considering John (Snow) Collins is our 4 of the future, isn't there a tremendous amount of overlap with he and Bridges/Williams? None of them are 3's or 5's. If we end up with a top-8 pick, we're definitely packaging picks for a trade. Or at least, I hope so.
If we keep the pick, I'd prefer the ba-Doncic-a-donk who appears to be dropping a bit (can you really be dropping in August?). Sexton is intriguing as a Jamal Crawford/Chuk McCollum (see what i did there?
Yowza!?!?
I like the JC Kid, a lot.
But do we already consider him so untouchable that we wouldn't even consider a higher rated prospect at the same position?
kg01 wrote:Whoa, whoa, whoa .. that's not necessarily what I'm saying. I'm more so saying that we drafted the guy, aren't we gonna at least give him a year to show what he can do. If we draft another 4(ish), that could stunt his growth.
That said, I'm cool with asset/talent accumulation so ... what was I talking about?
kg01 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:This seems like a reasonable range for us to fall in the draft, and this kid would be a worthy selection. (Though not quite a franchise changing player IMO)Spoiler:
Pick6-8 range...like him a lot more than Robert Williams whose projected around the same range.
Considering John (Snow) Collins is our 4 of the future, isn't there a tremendous amount of overlap with he and Bridges/Williams? None of them are 3's or 5's. If we end up with a top-8 pick, we're definitely packaging picks for a trade. Or at least, I hope so.
If we keep the pick, I'd prefer the ba-Doncic-a-donk who appears to be dropping a bit (can you really be dropping in August?). Sexton is intriguing as a Jamal Crawford/Chuk McCollum (see what i did there?
