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Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder?

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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#281 » by jayu70 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:11 pm

This is the latest 'update' on Dennis' case:
The Hawks have been trying to trade Schroder for weeks, but haven’t found much of a market for him, according to a person with knowledge of the discussions. Schroder’s poor 3-point shooting and atrocious defense last season hurt his trade value but not as much as his legal troubles, according to people with knowledge of how other teams view Schroder. 

Brookhaven Police arrested Schroder and three other men on misdemeanor battery charges in September. According to court records, the case was transferred to the DeKalb County District Attorney’s office in March with the recommendation that it be prosecuted as felony aggravated battery. The DeKalb DA has not made an announcement on any charges. 

Two people with knowledge of the case said Schroder and his lawyer discussed a settlement with the alleged victim on at least two separate occasions. Internally, Hawks officials have expressed confidence that Schroder won’t end up in jail. But other teams apparently aren’t so sure and thus are reluctant to give up much in a trade for Schroder. 

Schlenk likely will have a hard time finding a good deal for Schroder so long as his legal case is pending. Schlenk probably further decreased his leverage by acquiring Lin because now trade partners know that Schlenk must shed Schroder before the start of the season. Schlenk eventually may have to make a lopsided trade just to get rid of Schroder, like he did with Dwight Howard in summer 2017. 
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#282 » by macd-gm » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:57 pm

jayu70 wrote:This is the latest 'update' on Dennis' case:
The Hawks have been trying to trade Schroder for weeks, but haven’t found much of a market for him, according to a person with knowledge of the discussions. Schroder’s poor 3-point shooting and atrocious defense last season hurt his trade value but not as much as his legal troubles, according to people with knowledge of how other teams view Schroder. 

Brookhaven Police arrested Schroder and three other men on misdemeanor battery charges in September. According to court records, the case was transferred to the DeKalb County District Attorney’s office in March with the recommendation that it be prosecuted as felony aggravated battery. The DeKalb DA has not made an announcement on any charges. 

Two people with knowledge of the case said Schroder and his lawyer discussed a settlement with the alleged victim on at least two separate occasions. Internally, Hawks officials have expressed confidence that Schroder won’t end up in jail. But other teams apparently aren’t so sure and thus are reluctant to give up much in a trade for Schroder. 

Schlenk likely will have a hard time finding a good deal for Schroder so long as his legal case is pending. Schlenk probably further decreased his leverage by acquiring Lin because now trade partners know that Schlenk must shed Schroder before the start of the season. Schlenk eventually may have to make a lopsided trade just to get rid of Schroder, like he did with Dwight Howard in summer 2017. 


Ugh. What's lost in all of this is what a **** Dennis seems to be. Last year was a friggin disaster for Dennis personally and for the Hawks chances of getting anything of value for him in trade.
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#283 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:56 am

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Chris Mannix, senior writer for Yahoo! Sports: “Not to get lost in the 'Melo trade is the fact that Atlanta just gave away a 20-point, six-assist point guard in Schroder. Hawks clearly moving in a different direction, and GM Travis Schlenk was not a Schroder fan.”
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#284 » by tbhawksfan1 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:09 pm

A year ago we had a 23 year old top 15 PG. Now he was dumped to absorb Melo who will be bought out..... Not a very good return.
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#285 » by dms269 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:11 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:A year ago we had a 23 year old top 15 PG. Now he was dumped to absorb Melo who will be bought out..... Not a very good return.


A lot can happen in a year.
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#287 » by macd-gm » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:24 pm

Say what you will about Bud but he's a smart guy. Dennis' lack of ability to deal with adversity maybe something that's holding him back a little. I think being around players like Russ and PG who are decidedly better than him will do wonders for Dennis.
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Post#288 » by ChokeFasncists » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:02 pm

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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#289 » by atlantabbq99 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:41 am

Looks like Dennis has gone back to his old ways and is putting up basically the same high efficiency number as when he was playing with Millsap and Horford and Korver. Good for Dennis. We should have never let him and Doncic go, but I wish him well in Oklahoma.
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#290 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:23 pm

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Hawks on Schröder: ‘They got him out of here, and we haven’t looked back’

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Dennis​ Schröder requested​ a trade​ from​ the Hawks​ this past​ summer because​ he wanted​ to​ be​ with a “winning-mentality organization.” He​ followed​ up​​ by saying he “just can’t go out there and try to lose.”

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Seven hours after his strong comments about his former team, the organization that is “trying to lose” proceeded to throttle Oklahoma City, the league’s best defense, in a 142-126 win. Atlanta’s 142 points are the most Oklahoma City has allowed in regulation this season.

The Hawks got the last laugh Tuesday night.

Schröder talked about how coming back to Atlanta was going to be emotional for him, but he was the one who escalated trade talks with the organization and wanted out.

“At least he didn’t hold back,” Kent Bazemore, the Hawks player who played with Schröder the longest, told The Athletic. “He’s not starting anymore, so, hey, I don’t know what to tell him. Dennis is a good player. I enjoyed playing with him. He’s a fearless competitor, but he does his own thing. I respect it.

“They got him out of here, and we haven’t looked back.”

Schröder is having his worst shooting season since his rookie season. He’s shooting 41 percent from the floor and has only started 10 games this season. When you look at Schröder’s advanced stats, his player efficiency rating, true shooting percentage and assist rate are the worst they’ve been since his rookie season.

He said he didn’t have any conversations with general manager Travis Schlenk before Atlanta shipped him off to Oklahoma City. Schröder said his only conversation with a key member of the organization was with head coach Lloyd Pierce and, as the former Hawks player said, “I knew what it was after that.”

After the Hawks traded for Trae Young in the draft, it was clear that Schröder’s time with the team was going to come to an end.

Several of the players who were on last year’s team have said on several occasions they believe team camaraderie is better this year. Schröder not being in the locker room is one of the reasons. He has been labeled as “selfish” by some of the people in the organization.
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#291 » by High 5 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:02 pm

I can't blame Dennis for wanting to get out of a tanking situation. It doesn't benefit him at all and it was clear he wasn't in Schlenk's future plans. Both sides are better off now.
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#292 » by hawkmanreturns » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:05 pm

^^^ This makes that win even sweeter. 8-)
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Post#293 » by macd-gm » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:23 pm

Just a month or so ago someone said Trae has a long way to go before he's as good as Dennis. Does anyone still feel that way? I dont.
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#294 » by Buzzard » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:31 pm

Dennis wanted out and he got his wish. In fact, I think being one of the role players fits him better than being the leader of our young squad. In the end everything worked out for both.
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#295 » by kg01 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:36 pm

Buzzard wrote:Dennis wanted out and he got his wish. In fact, I think being one of the role players fits him better than being the leader of our young squad. In the end everything worked out for both.


This is true. He seems to thrive in a reserve role. I'm happy for him.

Rayford was eating his lunch with both hands all game other than that stretch in the 3rd.
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Re: Are Hawks ready to listen to offers for Schroder? 

Post#296 » by Buzzard » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:44 pm

kg01 wrote:
Buzzard wrote:Dennis wanted out and he got his wish. In fact, I think being one of the role players fits him better than being the leader of our young squad. In the end everything worked out for both.


This is true. He seems to thrive in a reserve role. I'm happy for him.

Rayford was eating his lunch with both hands all game other than that stretch in the 3rd.


Dennis is like lightening in a bottle. When he is on, he is great. When he is not, he is atrocious. As a role player, it is a lot easier to pull him and limit his minutes on those bad nights. I think OKC is a good fit for him.
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