2018 Free Agents

[reazun]

I know this is a ways off, but this talk about Lowry possibly wanting out of Toronto got me thinking about 2018 FAs. if we dont pull a top tier player in 2018, I will be really disappointed. I knew 2018 was stacked, but man....

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2018/

[jayu70]

I will assume none of the big time free agents like LBJ, PG, Cousins etc. I'm thinking along the lines of young upside free agents that fits our timeline and vets on short term deals.
(For this exercise, let's assume all our free agents have gone bye bye wether by trade or opting out - we can resign any of them as part of this list).

Here's my preliminary list.
RFAs: Clint Capella (if we draft Donic), Kyle Anderson, Jabari Parker
UFAs: Dwayne Dedmon, Nerlens Noel, KCP (provided we move Baze and him and his agent understand his market value same with Noel), Marco Belinelli, Luke Babbit, Cory Joseph, Seth Curry.

List of free 2018 free agents:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20229609/nba-free-agents-2018-2019

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[ATL Boy]

Id rather not sticky it at the moment to avoid congestion. We can come back to it and sticky it closer to the offseason if you'd like.

As for the question, I'm looking to add Jabari and definitely bring back Babbit. Luke fits what coach Bud likes to do perfectly.

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[jayu70]

Id rather not sticky it at the moment to avoid congestion. We can come back to it and sticky it closer to the offseason if you'd like.

As for the question, I'm looking to add Jabari and definitely bring back Babbit. Luke fits what coach Bud likes to do perfectly.

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No problem on the sticky.

[MaceCase]

It's a weak class. Hood, Smart, Parker, possibly McBuckets and Favors would be my targets but I'd rather stand pat till 2019, make a few teams think long and hard about matching offer sheets if guys like Booker, Russell, Porzingis, Turner make it without extensions.

[simon24]

It's a weak class. Hood, Smart, Parker, possibly McBuckets and Favors would be my targets but I'd rather stand pat till 2019, make a few teams think long and hard about matching offer sheets if guys like Booker, Russell, Porzingis, Turner make it without extensions.

True, 2018 is weak. I trust Schlenk to shop at the dollar store again this summer.

Resign: Delaney (1 year), Babbitt (1 year), Muscula (1 year), Taylor (1 year), Dedmon (1 year big cap number), Cavanaugh (1 year)
Trade: Dennis
Let Walk: Marco (ring chasing), Ersan (ring chasing)

[kg01]

I will assume none of the big time free agents like LBJ, PG, Cousins etc. I'm thinking along the lines of young upside free agents that fits our timeline and vets on short term deals.
(For this exercise, let's assume all our free agents have gone bye bye wether by trade or opting out - we can resign any of them as part of this list).

Here's my preliminary list.
RFAs: Clint Capella (if we draft Donic), Kyle Anderson, Jabari Parker
UFAs: Dwayne Dedmon, Nerlens Noel, KCP (provided we move Baze and him and his agent understand his market value same with Noel), Marco Belinelli, Luke Babbit, Cory Joseph, Seth Curry.

List of free 2018 free agents:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20229609/nba-free-agents-2018-2019

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I want no parts of Schlomo Anderson and you know good 'n well KCP's agent is gonna be looking to break the bank.

Agree on offering Parker and Joseph. Adding a player like Joseph improves our guard rotation immensely over a guy like DelaneySucks. Then again, adding a rando d-leaguer or a box of mops would improve our guard rotation immensely over a guy like DelaneySucks.

Do mops come in boxes?

[Jamaaliver]

Way-Too-Early Ranking of Top Potential 2018 Free Agents


9. Aaron Gordon, F, Orlando Magic
Restricted
2017-18 Salary: $5.5 Million
Age on July 1, 2018: 22

Gordon's improved three-point shot and all-around game are encouraging, even if all he's proved so far is that he can be the best player on a bad team. He took a significant step forward during his fourth NBA season in Orlando.

Youth is what gets him into the top 10 ahead of players who may currently be more valuable. Everyone else in the top 10 (save, perhaps Nikola Jokic) is in his prime or entering the decline phase of his career. Gordon is still on the way up—which makes his current production that much more impressive.

There are only three guys averaging at least 18 points and eight rebounds per game while shooting at least 41 percent on threes this year: Gordon, Kevin Love and Karl-Anthony Towns.

Bleacher Report

AG is unlikely to leave ORL just yet, but I'd be okay putting a bid in on him.

Might have to be a sign & trade for a legit shot at getting him, though.

Honorable Mentions
Jabari Parker, Milwaukee Bucks

There's no questioning Parker's scoring chops, but health and defense are the concerns here. Will the breathtaking open-court speed and ball-handling survive Parker's second torn ACL? Can he change direction on a dime and explode to the rim like he used to? And if the answers are "no," could his defensive ineptitude render him little more than a bench scorer going forward? Parker's upside remains high, but it'd be foolish to ignore the possible low-end outcomes in his forecast.

Jabari is a gamble I'd consider should we end up with Ayton in this year's draft. His scoring would fit well between Ayton and Taurean.

[kg01]

Way-Too-Early Ranking of Top Potential 2018 Free Agents


9. Aaron Gordon, F, Orlando Magic
Restricted
2017-18 Salary: $5.5 Million
Age on July 1, 2018: 22

Gordon's improved three-point shot and all-around game are encouraging, even if all he's proved so far is that he can be the best player on a bad team. He took a significant step forward during his fourth NBA season in Orlando.

Youth is what gets him into the top 10 ahead of players who may currently be more valuable. Everyone else in the top 10 (save, perhaps Nikola Jokic) is in his prime or entering the decline phase of his career. Gordon is still on the way up—which makes his current production that much more impressive.

There are only three guys averaging at least 18 points and eight rebounds per game while shooting at least 41 percent on threes this year: Gordon, Kevin Love and Karl-Anthony Towns.

Bleacher Report

AG is unlikely to leave ORL just yet, but I'd be okay putting a bid in on him.

Might have to be a sign & trade for a legit shot at getting him, though.

Honorable Mentions
Jabari Parker, Milwaukee Bucks

There's no questioning Parker's scoring chops, but health and defense are the concerns here. Will the breathtaking open-court speed and ball-handling survive Parker's second torn ACL? Can he change direction on a dime and explode to the rim like he used to? And if the answers are "no," could his defensive ineptitude render him little more than a bench scorer going forward? Parker's upside remains high, but it'd be foolish to ignore the possible low-end outcomes in his forecast.

Jabari is a gamble I'd consider should we end up with Ayton in this year's draft. His scoring would fit well between Ayton and Taurean.

We finally agree on something? I'm scared. Are you scared? You should be scared.

Not sure I'd break the bank on Parker but I could see putting a nice offer out there for him.

I pass on Gordon. Something about him I just don't like despite the production. His "production" feels like hollow nimbers. JMHO

[Jamaaliver]

We finally agree on something? I'm scared. Are you scared? You should be scared.

Not sure I'd break the bank on Parker but I could see putting a nice offer out there for him.

I pass on Gordon. Something about him I just don't like despite the production. His "production" feels like hollow numbers. JMHO

LOL

It was bound to happen eventually.

Agree on both points. Acquiring Gordon would help with an accelerated rebuild. But it'd be a gamble on almost every level because of the cost to get him.


Jabari...has talent but is falling apart. He's a good, smart kid with a translatable skill set. And could be rehabbed into a valuable, highly productive trade chip with proper time and good luck.

Spoiler:

NOTE: Jamaaliver knows no fear.

[kg01]

We finally agree on something? I'm scared. Are you scared? You should be scared.

Not sure I'd break the bank on Parker but I could see putting a nice offer out there for him.

I pass on Gordon. Something about him I just don't like despite the production. His "production" feels like hollow numbers. JMHO

LOL

It was bound to happen eventually.

Agree on both points. Acquiring Gordon would help with an accelerated rebuild. But it'd be a gamble on almost every level because of the cost to get him.


Jabari...has talent but is falling apart. He's a good, smart kid with a translatable skill set. And could be rehabbed into a valuable, highly productive trade chip with proper time and good luck.

Spoiler:

NOTE: Jamaaliver knows no fear.

I'd prefer Gordon over Parker based on health alone. Plus it'd be weakening a division opponent. Honestly, they're basically fully healthy and only like 2 games ahead of us with him so ... that's kinda the thing. Is he really a 'winning' player? Also, what is he? 3 or 4?

He also brings up something I've been thinking of. To me, he's a guy who should really look at his situation. I get that ORL can offer the most but ... I mean, what would that be getting him? Same with a guy like Booker (PHX) and Davis (NOP). You really wanna tie your pre-prime to that organization? You really wanna go through the process of getting the deal then trying to force your way out in a year or two? Why not just leave while you can?

Just more nonsensical ramblings. It's all I'm good for.

[tbhawksfan1]

FA $ should be spent very wisely. Look for youth with upside. Bring them in, develop and have first dibs on re-signing

[tbhawksfan1]

Also possible to sign guys just to trade for picks in the short-term. Hawks will have 2 very nice drafts and then should fall out of the top picks. Plan needs to optimize that window.

[Spud2nique]

I like Parker and A Capela a lot...outside of that I'd agree with Mace on but penetration in waiting till 2019...maybe sign some journeymen.

[Jamaaliver]

I like Parker and A Capela a lot...outside of that I'd agree with Mace on but penetration in waiting till 2019...maybe sign some journeymen.

Thought for today:

Is Marvin Bagley's floor -- Clint Capela with a better face up game?

[Spud2nique]

I like Parker and A Capela a lot...outside of that I'd agree with Mace on but penetration in waiting till 2019...maybe sign some journeymen.

Thought for today:

Is Marvin Bagley's floor -- Clint Capela with a better face up game?

Yes...although Bagley could block less even as a poor man's Clint. I don't know, call me optimistic but I don't think Bagley will bust. I think he's the real deal.

[macNcheese3]

Rather they build through the draft.


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[atlantabbq99]

What free agents should the Hawks be looking at this summer?

Some players who have very low stocks at the moment could be had by the Hawks if Budz is willing to develop them, like...

Derrick Favors
Julius Randle
Rodney Hood
Greg Monroe
Nerlens Noel
Jahlil Okafor
Avery Bradley
Nikola Mirotic

[kg01]

What free agents should the Hawks be looking at this summer?

Some players who have very low stocks at the moment could be had by the Hawks if Budz is willing to develop them, like...

Derrick Favors
Julius Randle
Rodney Hood
Greg Monroe
Nerlens Noel
Jahlil Okafor
Avery Bradley
Nikola Mirotic

Thanks for kicking off this discussion.

I think Favors and Noel are interesting depending on where we land in the draft. Meaning, if we expect to get a big they'll likely look for wing/guard in free agency.

Hood is another interesting name, especially since he's a Duke guy. The bad thing about him is he's become well known as a bad defender which doesn't mesh here.

[Jamaaliver]

How many of these things are we gonna start?

Can we merge these?