Trae Young's shooting slump

atlantabbq99 · Post #1 » by **atlantabbq99** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 7:24 am

Anybody else worried about Trae Young's shooting slump, and the Hawks might have a Markelle Fultz, D'Angelo Russell, Acie Law situation on their hands again?

As in a prospect that was drafted because of their high level shooting in college but then turns out to be a below average 3pt shooter in the NBA.

I checked the stats on Nash, Curry and Mark Price as rookies, but they were all shooting over 40% from three as rookies.

Stockton on the other hand was a poor three point shooter at the start of his NBA career, but then when he became a consistent starter started shooting over 40% from three.

Revived · Post #2 » by **Revived** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 8:47 am

I was looking at players who recently won the 3pt contest (the contestants for it are generally the best 3pt shooters in the league) and Devin Booker shot 34% from 3 his rookie season and won the contest last season beating the likes of Klay Thompson, Eric Gordon etc.

Trae will be fine.

Post #3 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 11:29 am

I think shot selection is more of a concern early than just 3-pt FG%.

The kid is supremely confident that he can hit from all over. But we'd benefit from him taking a more disciplined approach to when/where on the court he's shooting. Particularly off the dribble.

Did Trae play much off-the-ball last night? With the way Bembry was playing, DeAndre running point with Trae on the wing could be an interesting match up that most opposing teams won't be prepared for.

jayu70 · Post #4 » by **jayu70** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 12:33 pm

Improving his shot selection will improve his shooting percentages.

Roy Tarpley · Post #5 » by **Roy Tarpley** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 12:39 pm

I couldn't find a good streaming site outside of ATL so I couldn't watch the game, except for a few clips. So I'm just going by the boxscore here.

And I'm not liking the fact that Trae put up 16 shots in 20 minutes. That's not very Nash-esque. If you have to put up 16 shots to score 11 points, that's incredibly inefficient.

This is just one preseason game so not a big deal so far, but if one of the biggest criticisms of Trae was that he was just a volume scorer, then this game did nothing to change that criticism.

macd-gm · Post #6 » by **macd-gm** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 1:53 pm

LP's philosophy seems to be "let it fly" I expect he'll start reigning it in as we get closer to the season.

jayu70 · Post #7 » by **jayu70** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 1:56 pm

macd-gm wrote:LP's philosophy seems to be "let it fly" I expect he'll start reigning it in as we get closer to the season.

I hope so, some of them were ill-advised shots and taking them in a hurry. Hawks don't need him to carry the offensive burden.

macd-gm · Post #8 » by **macd-gm** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 4:42 pm

The OK games i watched Trae didn't keep jacking shots when he was cold despite the word on the street. If he wasn't hitting he'd shift to more distributing. He still took shots but not as high volume.

Post #9 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 5:12 pm

macd-gm wrote:The OK games i watched Trae didn't keep jacking shots when he was cold despite the word on the street. If he wasn't hitting he'd shift to more distributing. He still took shots but not as high volume.

if Trae were to focus on primarily setting the table for others, I could see him avg 10+ assists pretty regularly...maybe even as a rookie!

As teams adjusted to cutting off passing lanes, that would theoretically give him more space for those deep threes he loves so much.

~Wretch~ · Post #10 » by **~Wretch~** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 5:29 pm

It's really not a question of whether or not he can shoot. His range is off the charts. It's definitely shot selection and there's no way the coaching staff isn't aware of it. So, I would agree that they're letting him feel his way around the offense and adjustments will be made as he matures. I'll be keeping an eye on that. Honestly though, I'm way more concerned about/interested in his durability and how well he can finish inside. We should have some answers soon...because the NBA is gonna put him to the test.

shakes0 · Post #11 » by **shakes0** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 5:53 pm

seriously? This thread after ONE PRESEASON GAME????

Guys, he's going to be one of the best shooters in the game, but gasp, it's going to take him YEARS to get to that point.

Learn patience.

~Wretch~ · Post #12 » by **~Wretch~** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 6:31 pm

shakes0 wrote:seriously? This thread after ONE PRESEASON GAME????

Guys, he's going to be one of the best shooters in the game, but gasp, it's going to take him YEARS to get to that point.

Learn patience.

Well... To be fair, it's not one game the OP is referring to. It's this game in addition to Trae's summer league and while his range is good, his shot selection and consistency are valid concerns. Especially considering the quality of players he'll see in the regular season.

As I was saying though, I'm paying more attention to his ability to finish above anything else. And his ability to run the offense of course - where he has REALLY shined and shows incredible promise.

kg01 · Post #13 » by **kg01** » Tue Oct 2, 2018 7:36 pm

shakes0 wrote:seriously? This thread after ONE PRESEASON GAME????

Guys, he's going to be one of the best shooters in the game, but gasp, it's going to take him YEARS to get to that point.

Learn patience.

First, I don't think anyone is coming to any sweeping conclusions based off 1 preseason game.

As @wretch said, it's probably more of a reaction to his struggles in general from SL to now.

That said, this is still way premature to be worrying about. Worry more about whether he's taking good shots or not.

Finishing at the rim will be spotty due to his size but, as he gets skronger (yes, skronger), those results should improve as well.

atlantabbq99 · Post #14 » by **atlantabbq99** » Wed Oct 3, 2018 2:58 am

jayu70 wrote:Improving his shot selection will improve his shooting percentages.

That is the same criticism that D'Angelo Russell and Acie Law had that they still never broke out off.

I remember with Acie, we kept complaining about his decision making and shot selection.

ChokeFasncists · Post #15 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Wed Oct 3, 2018 6:41 am

Law: different era, mediocre stats in college as a senior
Fultz: form change or injury?
Russell: slow tweener

I think letting Trey learn thru errors and film study is a good way to go.

Probably better to have him come off the bench at the beginning to build confidence if Lin's ready.

~Wretch~ · Post #16 » by **~Wretch~** » Wed Oct 3, 2018 5:19 pm

My biggest gripe with Trae's shot selection, and what needs the most immediate attention, is how fast he's putting up some of these shots. He's really rushing (and forcing) a lot of these looks. Otherwise, I really like what I'm seeing from him.

Post #17 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Oct 3, 2018 5:45 pm

~Wretch~ wrote:My biggest gripe with Trae's shot selection, and what needs the most immediate attention, is how fast he's putting up some of these shots. He's really rushing (and forcing) a lot of these looks. Otherwise, I really like what I'm seeing from him.

1. I agree.

2. That's 'The Trae Young Experience'. It appears coaches are resigned to letting him be himself and decline to reign him in too much.

It'll be infuriating one night and utterly wonderful the next.

I suggest stocking up on Maalox and Tums before the start of the regular season.

:hoop:

jayu70 · Post #18 » by **jayu70** » Wed Oct 3, 2018 6:00 pm

~Wretch~ wrote:My biggest gripe with Trae's shot selection, and what needs the most immediate attention, is how fast he's putting up some of these shots. He's really rushing (and forcing) a lot of these looks. Otherwise, I really like what I'm seeing from him.

This i agrer with. Time and circumstance in games matter. I know Pierce wants a fast pace but it shouldn't mean rushing shots and launching shots early in the clock.

I'll be watching this closely. I'm happy with the rest of his game.

steady · Post #19 » by **steady** » Fri Oct 5, 2018 4:29 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:
jayu70 wrote:Improving his shot selection will improve his shooting percentages.

That is the same criticism that D'Angelo Russell and Acie Law had that they still never broke out off.

I remember with Acie, we kept complaining about his decision making and shot selection.

D'Angelo had problems with his decision making across the board though. He had a high percentage of TOs and he did not seem to be able to get his teammates going, even though he had the potential to be good passer. He often tried to make passes that were way too difficult.

Trae's decision making is overall good -- it is just his shot selection that has been questionable.

I am going to put it down to adrenaline and expect that he will soon be able to make higher percentage of his shots. And cut down on the really difficult shots.

Post #20 » by **ATL Boy** » Fri Oct 5, 2018 5:15 pm

Young has done enough to prove that he's a special 3-point shooter, the problem, as stated, is his shot selection. The college sample size of 10 three point attempts per game is big enough for us not to worthy about whether or not he can shoot. The biggest fear for me is that he'll develop bad habits in his shot selection that won't be easily eradicated.

I think he'll be fine when he realizes that he doesn't have to single handedly take over games the way he did at Oklahoma. His passing in the first preseason game was stellar, and he wasn't forcing passes, which is what led to turnovers in college.