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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#921 » by personanongrata » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:35 pm

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hawkmanreturns wrote:Dallas is 9th. I'm cool with that.


I would have been cool with 9th if that's where they finished the season. It's a bummer for today, though. In a tie, 7th has the same odds to land in the top 4 as 9th. So we missed out on the possibility of getting picks 7 or 8 for nothing. Plus the 26% chance for it fall to 10th. (3% for 11th, 0.1% for 12th)


Dont think Hunter will last until 9. It might be slim pickins' at nine.
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#922 » by Night Traen » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:36 pm

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hawkmanreturns wrote:Dallas is 9th. I'm cool with that.


I would have been cool with 9th if that's where they finished the season. It's a bummer for today, though. In a tie, 7th has the same odds to land in the top 4 as 9th. So we missed out on the possibility of getting picks 7 or 8 for nothing. Plus the 26% chance for it fall to 10th. (3% for 11th, 0.1% for 12th)

Most people feel this isn't a strong draft, so not sure how much of a difference picking between 7 and 9/10 really is.

Plus, I think considering how the trade has turned out so far (Luka and Trae virtually deserving of sharing the ROY), getting the Dallas pick at 9 (if it converts) is pretty fair as icing on the cake.
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#923 » by jayu70 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:36 pm

You all worry too much. :D
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#924 » by High 5 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:46 pm

jayu70 wrote:You all worry too much. :D


It's not really a worry to point out that it sucks to drop two spots in the lottery after a couple of coin flips. It's entirely possible we draft the best player in the draft with that pick regardless (or we lose it all the same), but the better the pick the better the odds of that.
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Post#925 » by jayu70 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:57 pm

This Graphic helps a lot in showing the odds for each team at each spot.
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Post#926 » by kg01 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:16 pm

jayu70 wrote:This Graphic helps a lot in showing the odds for each team at each spot.
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Post#927 » by Dominator83 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:17 pm

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Atlantaholic wrote:All reports have been that they have actively been trying to move up for months in order to give away their pick THIS year as opposed to next year. Why that is exactly, is anyone's guess. They must really like next years draft?


I think they came into this season looking to potentially make a run at the playoffs and it all fell apart. I think they are now planning to tank with a capital T for the next two seasons and they are at risk for some Brooklyn style futility if they can't go ahead and get this pick off the books.

I do think they believe that the talent on the board for their pick this year will be inferior to what is on the board the next couple seasons.

Thats exactly it. Memphis knows that they are right about to hit rock bottom, and someone like Cam Reddish isn't going to help change that. Better to pay the piper now in a weak draft than to owe later.
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#928 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:02 am

I'm just relieved Mavs have a miniscule shot at Zion.

Schlenk and Riley drafted Klay at #11. I look forward to seeing who we get at #9.

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Post#929 » by personanongrata » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:33 am

Hopefully we get someone that can help us with the Mavs pick
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Post#930 » by Buzzard » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:11 am

Gotta say Schlenks numbers cruncher is pretty dang good. I saw somewhere that they had Dallas projected 8th this year when they pulled the trigger on last years trade.
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Post#931 » by personanongrata » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:08 am

Buzzard wrote:Gotta say Schlenks numbers cruncher is pretty dang good. I saw somewhere that they had Dallas projected 8th this year when they pulled the trigger on last years trade.


The NBA is way too predictable. Every year, at least for most teams, the projections are pretty close.
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Post#932 » by Buzzard » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:15 am

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Buzzard wrote:Gotta say Schlenks numbers cruncher is pretty dang good. I saw somewhere that they had Dallas projected 8th this year when they pulled the trigger on last years trade.


The NBA is way too predictable. Every year, at least for most teams, the projections are pretty close.

Makes total sense why the top 5 protection was not a deal breaker though. And if the Mavs do move up, having a pick even a little later in next years draft may at least equal the one in this years draft. I think they played the numbers game well.
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Post#933 » by ATL Boy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:59 am

Complete buzzkill to have the pick drop two spots with no real trade off happening in our favor. If nothing else, that 9th pick (assuming it lands at 9) will be very valuable ammunition in case the lotto balls don't bounce in our favor and Schelnk wants to trade up from our pick.
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#934 » by King Ken » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:00 pm

ATL Boy wrote:Complete buzzkill to have the pick drop two spots with no real trade off happening in our favor. If nothing else, that 9th pick (assuming it lands at 9) will be very valuable ammunition in case the lotto balls don't bounce in our favor and Schelnk wants to trade up from our pick.

Maybe for the Charlotte pick but I wanted the Dallas pick to drop. This is not a great 6-10 draft especially for us. This now means whoever we draft will be in the range of $3,685,500 or cheaper. That's great considering their worth is closer to that range. The Charlotte one is the debbie downer. I would like to move that pick and it had more a lot more value at 40 than 44.
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#935 » by juanc » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:28 pm

Who did you guys want if the pick was 6th?
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#936 » by Hazer » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:08 pm

personanongrata wrote:
Buzzard wrote:Gotta say Schlenks numbers cruncher is pretty dang good. I saw somewhere that they had Dallas projected 8th this year when they pulled the trigger on last years trade.


The NBA is way too predictable. Every year, at least for most teams, the projections are pretty close.

They weren’t close on the Hawks nearly winning 30.
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#937 » by Hazer » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:10 pm

juanc wrote:Who did you guys want if the pick was 6th?

Cam Reddish, Deandre Hunter, or Jarrett Culver.
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#938 » by personanongrata » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:35 pm

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personanongrata wrote:
Buzzard wrote:Gotta say Schlenks numbers cruncher is pretty dang good. I saw somewhere that they had Dallas projected 8th this year when they pulled the trigger on last years trade.


The NBA is way too predictable. Every year, at least for most teams, the projections are pretty close.

They weren’t close on the Hawks nearly winning 30.


538 had us at 28 wins, spot on.
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#939 » by Buzzard » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:44 pm

ATL Boy wrote:Complete buzzkill to have the pick drop two spots with no real trade off happening in our favor. If nothing else, that 9th pick (assuming it lands at 9) will be very valuable ammunition in case the lotto balls don't bounce in our favor and Schelnk wants to trade up from our pick.

Could do the opposite. If one of those PGs is still on the board and a team is burning to get one, trading down and getting another pick next year or the year after could make sense. There should be several centers to pick from, even all the way back to 14 or 15. Can you imagine how smart that would be if Travis turns Luka into Trae Young and two more 1st.
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Re: Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch 

Post#940 » by Hazer » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:44 am

personanongrata wrote:
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The NBA is way too predictable. Every year, at least for most teams, the projections are pretty close.

They weren’t close on the Hawks nearly winning 30.


538 had us at 28 wins, spot on.

And a half dozen or more I read pre-season had us winning fewer games than last year, way off.
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