Are we totally rebuilding through the draft?

[WuriderX]

Never hear anything about being linked to an established player in the league. What is the point of having money if you are not going to spend it. I mean no rumors of us making a run at anyone of significance. It kills me that people talk about the process but fail to mention all the failures that the process had (Fultz, Noel, Okafor). Knowing the Hawks we might sign another player like Bazemore to a ridiculous contract. How young do you want to get?

[macd-gm]

The time to make a run at an established star is not now. We have to build a core of respectability first. I hate to tout Boston but how many years did they build on draft picks and role players before they went after Hayward by free agency and Kyrie by trade. You can't do it all at once.

[DarthTater]

The time to make a run at an established star is not now. We have to build a core of respectability first. I hate to tout Boston but how many years did they build on draft picks and role players before they went after Hayward by free agency and Kyrie by trade. You can't do it all at once.

Compared to Hayward, Bazemore is the deal of the century.

[King Ken]

I do think we should try to make a play this offseason for a key free agent like Boogie, Vucevic, Vonleh, Klay, etc

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[dms269]

Never hear anything about being linked to an established player in the league. What is the point of having money if you are not going to spend it. I mean no rumors of us making a run at anyone of significance. It kills me that people talk about the process but fail to mention all the failures that the process had (Fultz, Noel, Okafor). Knowing the Hawks we might sign another player like Bazemore to a ridiculous contract. How young do you want to get?

Who do you suggest?

[marco102]

Never hear anything about being linked to an established player in the league. What is the point of having money if you are not going to spend it. I mean no rumors of us making a run at anyone of significance. It kills me that people talk about the process but fail to mention all the failures that the process had (Fultz, Noel, Okafor). Knowing the Hawks we might sign another player like Bazemore to a ridiculous contract. How young do you want to get?

We should take our time before adding players. Build through the draft to make sure you get the players you need, then add that veteran talent. The reason so many teams stay in the lottery is because they trade their young talent for some better player that doesn't move the needle. Be patient and if your young talent starts to win, the free agents will come to you!

[jayu70]

Never hear anything about being linked to an established player in the league. What is the point of having money if you are not going to spend it. I mean no rumors of us making a run at anyone of significance. It kills me that people talk about the process but fail to mention all the failures that the process had (Fultz, Noel, Okafor). Knowing the Hawks we might sign another player like Bazemore to a ridiculous contract. How young do you want to get?

This will be the Hawks 2nd year in the lottery.
I don't want the Hawks to spend money just to spend it. That's how you end up overpaying marginal talent and end up screwing up your cap sheet during a rebuild.
Which established player should the Hawks he targetting? The big FA superstars aren't coming to Atlanta.
Don't rush the rebuild.

[King Ken]

I don't mind going after a high end center who fits what we are trying to do in FA

[Nathan2331]

I don't mind going after a high end center who fits what we are trying to do in FA

I agree with this. We need to sign someone major before our recent draft picks are up for second contracts. Center is the position that's most obvious.

[King Ken]

I don't mind going after a high end center who fits what we are trying to do in FA

I agree with this. We need to sign someone major before our recent draft picks are up for second contracts. Center is the position that's most obvious.

It's also the one position where we have options in terms of FAs.

[~Wretch~]

There's no rule saying you can't sign major free agents during a rebuild. We signed Joe Johnson 3 years into the last one. If a legit talent is available and they're willing to come to a rebuilding situation, our front office would spend the money. Spending money just to "jumpstart" the process is how you end up with an albatross contract...which might limit your options when the drafted talent begins to mature.

The point of a rebuild is to reset the team and regrow it. You have to find core talent and build around it. That takes time and unless there is a Shaq, Duncan, AI, or LeBron at the top of the draft...or you've otherwise found a cornerstone, your not going to know what your team is going to play like. So that guy you signed hastily might even end up as a terrible fit or duplication of talent.

The priority during a rebuild is to aquire talent and maintain flexibility. Nothing more. Eventually, the core will shape up into something we can build around - which includes signing free agents.

[personanongrata]

I do think we should try to make a play this offseason for a key free agent like Boogie, Vucevic, Vonleh, Klay, etc

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I love Klay but the rebuilding Hawks are a tough sell to a guy that are used to winning championships.

[Spud2nique]

We sit back and remain flexible but here’s a list of my favorite guys..(Siegel and Guest fight to write next article lol).

2019 Free agents :

Stanley Johnson (still believe)

Dragan Bender (Talent is still here)

Furkan Korkmaz (shooter for Trae)

Troy Williams (Birthday boy ..versatile)

2020 Free agents:

Jaylen Brown (my man..just get off Celts)

Caris Levert (restricted; maybe good fit)

Malik Beasley (hasn’t had a chance)

Marquese Chriss (Young oozes talent)

Domantas Sabonis (yea right, loved)

Montrezl Harrell (becoming a force)

Brandon Ingram (likely stays or traded)

Thon Maker (hasn’t had a chance fully)

Anthony Davis (BIGGEST FISH EVER!!!!)

Jerami Grant (helps erase Trae slips)

Ben Simmons (lol gotta list him ..dream)

Pascal Siakam (knows his role plays hard)

[Spud2nique]

The above is strictly free agents..I think we get active more in the trades.

[tbhawksfan1]

There's no rule saying you can't sign major free agents during a rebuild. We signed Joe Johnson 3 years into the last one. If a legit talent is available and they're willing to come to a rebuilding situation, our front office would spend the money. Spending money just to "jumpstart" the process is how you end up with an albatross contract...which might limit your options when the drafted talent begins to mature.

The point of a rebuild is to reset the team and regrow it. You have to find core talent and build around it. That takes time and unless there is a Shaq, Duncan, AI, or LeBron at the top of the draft...or you've otherwise found a cornerstone, your not going to know what your team is going to play like. So that guy you signed hastily might even end up as a terrible fit or duplication of talent.

The priority during a rebuild is to aquire talent and maintain flexibility. Nothing more. Eventually, the core will shape up into something we can build around - which includes signing free agents.

Signed JJ, but didn't make the playoffs until Horf and JJ did become an albatross contract. Timing is key for a BIG FA. I think this summer is still a sign OK FA to flip and wait another year or two to set the team up for something big when our core starts to be competetive

[Brotha2ThaNite]

I do think we should try to make a play this offseason for a key free agent like Boogie, Vucevic, Vonleh, Klay, etc

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agree with what you said but not Boogie or Vonleh. Vonleh is average and Boogie personality just wouldn't match.

[~Wretch~]

There's no rule saying you can't sign major free agents during a rebuild. We signed Joe Johnson 3 years into the last one. If a legit talent is available and they're willing to come to a rebuilding situation, our front office would spend the money. Spending money just to "jumpstart" the process is how you end up with an albatross contract...which might limit your options when the drafted talent begins to mature.

The point of a rebuild is to reset the team and regrow it. You have to find core talent and build around it. That takes time and unless there is a Shaq, Duncan, AI, or LeBron at the top of the draft...or you've otherwise found a cornerstone, your not going to know what your team is going to play like. So that guy you signed hastily might even end up as a terrible fit or duplication of talent.

The priority during a rebuild is to aquire talent and maintain flexibility. Nothing more. Eventually, the core will shape up into something we can build around - which includes signing free agents.

Signed JJ, but didn't make the playoffs until Horf and JJ did become an albatross contract. Timing is key for a BIG FA. I think this summer is still a sign OK FA to flip and wait another year or two to set the team up for something big when our core starts to be competetive

The point was more about how we signed a FA during the rebuild - and a max contract at that. That deal was not an albatross as JJ was one of the most coveted young FA's at the time; and while Horf was no doubt a quality addition, JJ was the engine that ran our team. Without him, we weren't making the playoffs and certainly wouldn't have pushed Boston to 7 games that first year.

JJ didn't become an albatross until we were well past rebuilding and re-signed him to that foolish amount of money. That wasn't a jumpstart move, that was a panic move - which is also a way to saddle yourself with a large and unmanageable contract (which we were lucky to have pawned off onto Brooklyn). Which is also the way we're coming off here by worrying about FA's before we even have a stable core.

If there's a no-brainer FA out there that's willing to sign here, then I'm all for it and I'm sure management is too. Otherwise, we need to pump the brakes and take our time building a quality (and flexible) core.

[~Wretch~]

We sit back and remain flexible but here’s a list of my favorite guys..(Siegel and Guest fight to write next article lol).

2019 Free agents :

Stanley Johnson (still believe)


Dragan Bender (Talent is still here)

Furkan Korkmaz (shooter for Trae)

Troy Williams (Birthday boy ..versatile)

2020 Free agents:

Jaylen Brown (my man..just get off Celts)

Caris Levert (restricted; maybe good fit)

Malik Beasley (hasn’t had a chance)

Marquese Chriss (Young oozes talent)

Domantas Sabonis (yea right, loved)

Montrezl Harrell (becoming a force)

Brandon Ingram (likely stays or traded)

Thon Maker (hasn’t had a chance fully)

Anthony Davis (BIGGEST FISH EVER!!!!)

Jerami Grant (helps erase Trae slips)

Ben Simmons (lol gotta list him ..dream)

Pascal Siakam (knows his role plays hard)

I still like Stanley Johnson too.

[King Ken]

I think we are getting close confirming a core 3 with Collins, Trae and Kevin.

We need some more games to pretty much close this one out but a core three is critical to a playoff level team. We had Joe, Al, and Josh then a core 5 of Al, Sap, Jeff, Kyle and DMC. We are still adding to the core but I feel confident moving forward. How talented is our core is what I like: Kevin, Trae and Collins look extremely talented. Way more talented than our other core players. I still would like to add two more core young players to the mix, especially on the wings. I would look to add a vet center this offseason.

I am happy with what I see.

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[King Ken]

There's no rule saying you can't sign major free agents during a rebuild. We signed Joe Johnson 3 years into the last one. If a legit talent is available and they're willing to come to a rebuilding situation, our front office would spend the money. Spending money just to "jumpstart" the process is how you end up with an albatross contract...which might limit your options when the drafted talent begins to mature.

The point of a rebuild is to reset the team and regrow it. You have to find core talent and build around it. That takes time and unless there is a Shaq, Duncan, AI, or LeBron at the top of the draft...or you've otherwise found a cornerstone, your not going to know what your team is going to play like. So that guy you signed hastily might even end up as a terrible fit or duplication of talent.

The priority during a rebuild is to aquire talent and maintain flexibility. Nothing more. Eventually, the core will shape up into something we can build around - which includes signing free agents.

Signed JJ, but didn't make the playoffs until Horf and JJ did become an albatross contract. Timing is key for a BIG FA. I think this summer is still a sign OK FA to flip and wait another year or two to set the team up for something big when our core starts to be competetive

Huh? JJ 1st contract is the only thing that saved ASG from being the Kings and bad for over 10 years. JJ first contract was for 70 million and it was fine. It was his John Wall like contract he signed that damn near ended us.

Like I said, we had only one franchise player in the last 24 years. That's Al Horford. No one else was that important to winning. You realize Al Horford is responsible for our most winning era is Atlanta Hawks history in Atlanta of course. Just saying. Al was that valuable which is how he got paid.

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