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Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:27 pm
by Jamaaliver
Sekou Smith wrote:2018-19 Midseason Report Cards: Atlanta Hawks

Atlanta Hawks: D

The Hawks are in a full blown rebuild in Lloyd Pierce’s first season as coach, so the roller coaster ride they’re on this season was expected. Turning the offense over to rookie point guard Trae Young came with inherent risks as well. But to his credit, Young has proved to be more durable (physically, mentally and emotionally) than his slight frame and limited exposure might have suggested.

Second-year forward John Collins is the player who has emerged for the Hawks, who have to figure out which of their youngsters are long-term keepers. He’s got 20-point, 10-rebound potential for years to come and is the ideal stretch big for today’s NBA. The evaluation process for rookies Kevin Huerter and Omari Spellman will continue into this season and beyond as the Hawks reconstitute themselves. Veterans like Vince Carter and Jeremy Lin are helping to bridge the gap as Atlanta’s plans enter the next phase.
NBA.com

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:36 pm
by Spud2nique
Jamaaliver wrote:[quote='Sekou Smith"]2018-19 Midseason Report Cards: Atlanta Hawks

Atlanta Hawks: D

The Hawks are in a full blown rebuild in Lloyd Pierce’s first season as coach, so the roller coaster ride they’re on this season was expected. Turning the offense over to rookie point guard Trae Young came with inherent risks as well. But to his credit, Young has proved to be more durable (physically, mentally and emotionally) than his slight frame and limited exposure might have suggested.

Second-year forward John Collins is the player who has emerged for the Hawks, who have to figure out which of their youngsters are long-term keepers. He’s got 20-point, 10-rebound potential for years to come and is the ideal stretch big for today’s NBA. The evaluation process for rookies Kevin Huerter and Omari Spellman will continue into this season and beyond as the Hawks reconstitute themselves. Veterans like Vince Carter and Jeremy Lin are helping to bridge the gap as Atlanta’s plans enter the next phase.
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Let me get this straight. We were slated to win 23 games this year and have the worst record yet we have the 5th worst and we get a D? I give this author an F for not watching Hawks games yet having the audacity to post this crap.

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:37 pm
by Spud2nique
Let me guess: Mavs get an A! Agendas I tell ya!

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:45 pm
by Jamaaliver
Spud2nique wrote:Let me get this straight. We were slated to win 23 games this year and have the worst record yet we have the 5th worst and we get a D? I give this author an F for not watching Hawks games yet having the audacity to post this crap.



Sekou is actually pretty fair, man.

He not only lives in the metro Atlanta area (Cobb County, baby!), but he served as the Hawks Beat Writer for the AJC for a few years.




SS is legit. Even if this grade is indeed pretty harsh.

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:00 pm
by graymule
:wink:

Grade depends on expectations, I believe. If you expected to win it all, they didn't. If you expected them
to develop players and team chemistry, they have.

I give the Hawks a B!

:D

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:06 pm
by ~Wretch~
Agreed. Sekou was always fair, but this grade is more than a little harsh. Relative to the league, then yes...obviously. For where we are in our rebuild and compared to the other rebuilding teams...we are much better than a D. Collins is solidifying himself and we got a decent prospect in Huerter. I hate that we missed on Luka, but Trae is much better than I expected. We're exactly where everyone pinned us to be in the standings, but we've been competitive. I give us a B-

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:24 pm
by Jamaaliver
The most relative (if not entirely truthful) assessment of the season:

The Hawks have reached the 41-game mark with a record of 12-29, the fifth-worst record in the NBA, in coach Lloyd Pierce’s first season. This season isn’t about adding up wins, as the team rebuilds. Schlenk, Pierce and the rest of the key players inside the Hawks’ organization are more so looking for growth out of the young players, which Schlenk says he has seen in the past month.

With the Hawks officially at the halfway point, The Athletic caught up with Schlenk to get his thoughts on the team up until this point and, of course, in the future.

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"I’m really happy with Lloyd. He’s just a good guy...even if we’re not winning every night like we want to. Those qualities: being able to keep a positive environment along with being able to develop our players were two of the highest priorities for us.

...We focus on smaller goals. We want to get better every single day. As we improve each day, the wins are going to be there and take care of themselves. We’re taking a bigger picture approach.

...The main thing is that we continue to see growth, individually and collectively. We continue to watch guys get better. It’s not like we’re saying, ‘This is the number we need to reach to consider it a successful season.’ It’s not like that. It’s about continuing to see growth and continuing to see guys playing better."
Schlenk - The Athletic

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:32 pm
by Atlanta Hawk Fan
Agree with the last few posts that Sekou is legit, and I'd add he not only was our beat reporter but did a really good job of it while he was in the role. Also will agree with everyone saying this grade is harsh based on development and promise for the future shown.

However, looking at the full slate of grades it appears that he is grading almost entirely on how many wins a team has. The teams at with middle grades are on track to make the playoffs or in the playoff mix while the teams at the top look to be threats to make noise in the playoffs. Teams at the bottom look certain to be in the lottery.

A team like NY that clearly needs to lose as much as possible this season is given a terrible grade for losing a lot, for example. So this strikes all of us as harsh because we are evaluating the Hawks' season based on how much promise the young players show and whether we are going to be in a position to meaningfully add talent. For Sekou, that seems to be a very different set of criteria from what he is using. I bet his grades have a very, very strong correlation to position in the standings with only a slight adjustment for where a team was projected coming into the year. If he spelled that out more clearly at the beginning of the article, there would be less headscratching when reviewing the grade for the Hawks.

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:53 pm
by macd-gm
Seems like if the goal is rebuild through the draft then we're at least a B if not an A.

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:07 pm
by Spud2nique
Didn’t know it was Sekou he gets a pass!

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:01 pm
by lethalweapon3
This the last year in his life that somebody says "Sekou" and most folks think "Smith," so I'm gonna let him slide, too!

Solid C at worst, but I like to grade on the curve. B-minus, with an outside chance at a B-plus, regardless of final record, if the turnover percentages come down this season! The team-wide grade should be more reflective of the work this coaching staff has put in, and I look forward to seeing more out of their efforts to improve all the yung'uns, after the trade 'n veteran buyout deadlines pass.

I was thinking this was gonna be the individual player grades, too. Collins' A stands for "Almost All-Star," Baze's A stands for "Any Takers?", and Trae stays on the minus side of C, just until he steps it up a notch or three defensively. Spellman may be duking it out with Ty-D-Bol and Plumlord for my worst grade at D-plus, but like many he really just deserves an incomplete. Shape up, young fella!

~lw3

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:07 pm
by Jamaaliver
Zach Harper wrote:The Athletic’s NBA Power Rankings: Halfway point admissions edition


26. Atlanta Hawks (Previously 26th), 13-30 (-7.6 net rating)

I thought the Atlanta Hawks were going to be the worst team in the NBA.

General manager Travis Schlenk tore down a solid roster, and with good reason. That roster had an extremely low ceiling, and the Hawks decided they wanted to build something a lot more meaningful. Going into this season, I was pretty certain that Kent Bazemore was the most talented guy on the roster. No offense to Kent Bazemore, but he should never be the most talented guy on an NBA roster. The Hawks looked fully ready to embrace an even more extreme tanking season after their 24 wins a year ago. Instead, the Hawks have found a bit of a groove lately in being really competitive. Occasionally, this roster will get pummeled and it’s a reminder of the young, but overwhelmed talent on the roster. That’s typically the case with rebuilding teams.

However, this Hawks team has turned a corner lately. They’ve actually won seven of their previous 14 games. They went from a team on pace for about 17 victories to a 24-win projection. That would put them with the same number of wins as last season. That doesn’t sound like much of an accomplishment, but it does when you think about how bad this team looked a month ago. Lloyd Pierce has this team looking a lot more competent on defense. For a team this young (with its core and not Vince Carter), that feels like a major accomplishment.
The Athletic

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:54 pm
by Jamaaliver
Midseason Report Card Grades for Every NBA Team

Atlanta Hawks: C

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Grading bad teams that are supposed to be bad is always a challenge. The Hawks didn't make it any easier.

In instances like this, a high-end prospect making considerable improvement goes a long way. The Hawks have one. It just isn't the one on which all the attention falls.

Trae Young's sub-30 percent clip is a genuine concern. The "He's just a rookie" deflections don't work. It doesn't matter that his vision is as advertised, or that he's canning more than 38 percent of his treys since the Hawks' Dec. 8 win over the Denver Nuggets.

L*** D****c, the player Atlanta traded to get Young, is holding Rookie of the Year hostage for an unmeetable ransom. He complicates everything for the Hawks' most talked-about name.

John Collins is doing his damnedest to provide cover. He's (quietly) averaging 18.9 points, 10.6 rebounds and 2.4 assists while burying 44.4 percent of his corner threes and exploring the limits of his self-starting jumpers. Lineups that run him at the 5 are deployed in small doses and getting obliterated on defense, but his offensive role expansion is a reminder that Atlanta has more than one top-shelf prospect.

Others are pitching in, too. Kevin Huerter appears to be Young's backcourt mate of the future. Taurean Prince still has potential to work with when he returns from his left ankle injury. DeAndre' Bembry University continues to accept applicants, but admission is about to close.

The Hawks are fun. They're getting into the habit of stealing random road games against quality opponents. And unlike some other rebuilding squads, their asset chest isn't the least bit tied to selling off veterans—Kent Bazemore, Dewayne Dedmon, Jeremy Lin—by the trade deadline.
Bleacher Report

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:33 am
by peoriabird
Like someone said already...The Hawks were projected to win 23 games and have already won 14 games despite the terrible schedule at the beginning of the season and all of the injuries. Now the team is playing over .500 basketball over the last 15 while starting all of their 1st and 2nd year players and we still get a D or a C. Definitely sounds like an agenda. Is that you Seigel or is it Roland?

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:31 am
by King Ken
B, the boys are way ahead of schedule, Pierce is looking like a good coach and they have a core. That's all you can ask for at this early stage

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:37 am
by HMFFL
I would give the team a B, not a D.
The young Hawks are exciting to watch and have exceeded expectations already.
A lower grade like a D gets the discussions flowing.

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Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:28 pm
by Atlanta Hawk Fan
NBA Midseason Grades: Eastern Conference

ATLANTA HAWKS: B+
First-Half Record: 14–30 | Net Rating: 26th

A finely executed rebuild in Atlanta so far. Trae Young, John Collins, and Kevin Huerter are all top five amongst Hawks in minutes played, while Lloyd Pierce still wisely employs his vets to keep things from going completely off the rails. Atlanta has lost and will continue to lose a lot, but it will also frustrate teams and win sometimes when it’s not supposed to. The Hawks are on a sensible path and must make sure they keep Young at the forefront of their future plans. Young hasn’t been spectacular, but he has flashes of brilliance that make his future seem bright when he’s not being constantly compared to Luka Doncic. Judging him or this team after half a season is a fruitless exercise. Atlanta needs time, and everyone knows that.


https://www.si.com/nba/2019/01/16/nba-midseason-grades-raptors-bucks-celtics-knicks-kawhi-leonard-giannis-eastern-conference

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:37 pm
by peoriabird
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Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:29 pm
by Buzzard
Grade B
I like the hustle and grit that Bembry brings and he is a nice surprise to go along with studs Collins, Trae, and Huerter. I also think Spellman can be a hell of a role player if he can keep off the weight.

My only disappointment is Prince. If you had a A minus option, I would have chose it. I have a feeling that Malik Beasley, taken 17th, will eventually outplay Prince on a regular basis; but I am hoping I am wrong.

Re: Hawks Mid Season Report Cards

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:27 pm
by Jamaaliver
2018-19 NBA Midseason Grades:

Atlanta Hawks: C

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It's tough to appropriately grade the Hawks this season since they are building for the future. In the present they're not great, but in Trae Young and John Collins they seem to have identified a couple of foundational pieces moving forward.
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