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I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:27 pm
by peoriabird
I keep looking at the prospects and no one excites me. Even at the top of the draft with RJ Barrett and Cam Reddish... They don't move the needle that much for me. There are only a couple of guys in the top 15 that can actually shoot. Maybe we should be sellers this year again or hope that Dallas lands one of the top 5 spots.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:43 am
by Buzzard
peoriabird wrote:I keep looking at the prospects and no one excites me. Even at the top of the draft with RJ Barrett and Cam Reddish... They don't move the needle that much for me. There are only a couple of guys in the top 15 that can actually shoot. Maybe we should be sellers this year again or hope that Dallas lands one of the top 5 spots.

I like this years draft. I think Barrett is going to be a special scorer and Reddish could end up being a all-star two way player. I agree about the lower half of the lottery being weak but think one of the bigs could be a solid fit. I would rather trade down and grab another pick later, than Dallas getting in the top five.

Cuban is going to have a boat load of cap with both DeAndre and Mathews contracts expiring. I expect him to load up on better talent next season for a solid playoff team; even if he misses out on the big fish.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:38 am
by jayu70
When you are rebuilding you take as many shots in the lottery as you can.
The more chances you have to pick, the higher the chances that you get a couple right.
Besides, we can always trade one for a slightly lower pick and get another 1st again next year.
Atlanta needs talent and depth.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:14 am
by High 5
I can't really speak to the talent of this draft class, but I have wondered if there's any value to spreading our picks out a bit (or packing both for one). 5 firsts in 2 seasons is a ton. That's a lot of really young players trying to develop at the same time. Then you have to worry about paying them all around the same time. :dontknow: Everything depends on how the lottery shakes out.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:22 am
by jayu70
High 5 wrote:I can't really speak to the talent of this draft class, but I have wondered if there's any value to spreading our picks out a bit (or packing both for one). 5 firsts in 2 seasons is a ton. That's a lot of really young players trying to develop at the same time. Then you have to worry about paying them all around the same time. :dontknow: Everything depends on how the lottery shakes out.

I didn't think we'd have 3 rookies on the team last year. I thought we'd try to package 19 and 30 (which we were actually trying to do, but some leak about who the Bucks would take kept Schlenck from having to do so). I thought pick 30 woukd be a draft and stash.
I thought Huerter would be GLeague fodder, Spellman would be playing more if he stayed off the food and trainers table.
Not all picks pan out, they won't all be paid the same amount, we can trade them for future picks (similar to Prince right now), or a disgruntled 'star'.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:59 am
by peoriabird
I like this years draft. I think Barrett is going to be a special scorer and Reddish could end up being a all-star two way player.


RJ Barrett might be a really good defender but can't shoot a lick. Also shoot a floater around the rim that doesn't go in. He is about as inefficient as Bembry. Reddish can't shoot either and is not as good of a defender. He also is wildly inefficient. He struggles to finish in traffic.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:20 pm
by personanongrata
peoriabird wrote:I keep looking at the prospects and no one excites me. Even at the top of the draft with RJ Barrett and Cam Reddish... They don't move the needle that much for me. There are only a couple of guys in the top 15 that can actually shoot. Maybe we should be sellers this year again or hope that Dallas lands one of the top 5 spots.


Last years draft had more depth in my opinion.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:46 pm
by Spud2nique
peoriabird wrote:
I like this years draft. I think Barrett is going to be a special scorer and Reddish could end up being a all-star two way player.


RJ Barrett might be a really good defender but can't shoot a lick. Also shoot a floater around the rim that doesn't go in. He is about as inefficient as Bembry. Reddish can't shoot either and is not as good of a defender. He also is wildly inefficient. He struggles to finish in traffic.



Did you just say Reddish can’t shoot? Nah bro keep watching. Man you can’t come here with that weak sauce Reddish can shoot.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:29 pm
by peoriabird
Spud2nique wrote:
peoriabird wrote:
I like this years draft. I think Barrett is going to be a special scorer and Reddish could end up being a all-star two way player.


RJ Barrett might be a really good defender but can't shoot a lick. Also shoot a floater around the rim that doesn't go in. He is about as inefficient as Bembry. Reddish can't shoot either and is not as good of a defender. He also is wildly inefficient. He struggles to finish in traffic.



Did you just say Reddish can’t shoot? Nah bro keep watching. Man you can’t come here with that weak sauce Reddish can shoot.

Yeah I did!!!

SEASON TEAM MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2018-19 DUKE 25.2 4.2-11.6 .364 2.5-7.2 .344 2.2-3.0 .725 3.4 1.8 0.4 1.9 2.6 3.1 13.1

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:34 pm
by Spud2nique
peoriabird wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
peoriabird wrote:
RJ Barrett might be a really good defender but can't shoot a lick. Also shoot a floater around the rim that doesn't go in. He is about as inefficient as Bembry. Reddish can't shoot either and is not as good of a defender. He also is wildly inefficient. He struggles to finish in traffic.



Did you just say Reddish can’t shoot? Nah bro keep watching. Man you can’t come here with that weak sauce Reddish can shoot.

Yeah I did!!!

SEASON TEAM MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2018-19 DUKE 25.2 4.2-11.6 .364 2.5-7.2 .344 2.2-3.0 .725 3.4 1.8 0.4 1.9 2.6 3.1 13.1


Throw stats out man. Just watch him play. He’s got that NBA game and that NBA 3 point stroke.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:56 pm
by EazyRoc
Reddish is still learning to play off the ball at this level. He went from being a PG to maybe the 3rd (or 4th) ball handler. I still think something is missing for him in the motivational department but I definitely haven’t considered that he’s just isn’t used to the role he’s been asked to play.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:35 pm
by peoriabird
Spud2nique wrote:
peoriabird wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Throw stats out man. Just watch him play. He’s got that NBA game and that NBA 3 point stroke.


Hard to throw out today's stats

C. Reddish F 38 1-11 1-8 4-4 0 6 6 6 5 1 2 2 7

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:29 pm
by Spud2nique
peoriabird wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
peoriabird wrote:


Hard to throw out today's stats

C. Reddish F 38 1-11 1-8 4-4 0 6 6 6 5 1 2 2 7



:lol: looked like a picked a bad day to support Cam. Damn Cam I tried but you on ur own with this performance.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:50 am
by HMFFL
Spud2nique wrote:
peoriabird wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:


Hard to throw out today's stats

C. Reddish F 38 1-11 1-8 4-4 0 6 6 6 5 1 2 2 7



looked like a picked a bad day to support Cam. Damn Cam I tried but you on ur own with this performance.
I'm not seeing much from him all year. Not enough to select him top 5.

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Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:16 am
by EazyRoc
HMFFL wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
peoriabird wrote:
Hard to throw out today's stats

C. Reddish F 38 1-11 1-8 4-4 0 6 6 6 5 1 2 2 7



looked like a picked a bad day to support Cam. Damn Cam I tried but you on ur own with this performance.
I'm not seeing much from him all year. Not enough to select him top 5.

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There’s a lot of high quality wing talent that could push him to late lottery-mid first. He definitely shouldn’t be considered much higher at this point.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:11 am
by DirtybirdGA
Draft net had the Duke wings dropping of late

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:43 am
by HMFFL
EazyRoc wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:

looked like a picked a bad day to support Cam. Damn Cam I tried but you on ur own with this performance.
I'm not seeing much from him all year. Not enough to select him top 5.

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There’s a lot of high quality wing talent that could push him to late lottery-mid first. He definitely shouldn’t be considered much higher at this point.
Reminds me when we drafted Marvin Williams so high and the mistake that was. He should have gone much later.


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Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:53 am
by personanongrata
Predicting the draft is going to hard after the first couple of picks.

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:45 am
by GreatWhiteStiff
I mean I don't know how you can "watch a guy play" and throw out stats, when he's clearly throwing up a lot of bricks. Are we supposed to ignore the bricks too and watch his aesthetics and simply assume he'll be able to suddenly get buckets efficiently in the nba after failing to do so in college?

Re: I'm not sure this is the year to have multiple Lottery picks

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:58 pm
by Buzzard
peoriabird wrote:
I like this years draft. I think Barrett is going to be a special scorer and Reddish could end up being a all-star two way player.


RJ Barrett might be a really good defender but can't shoot a lick. Also shoot a floater around the rim that doesn't go in. He is about as inefficient as Bembry. Reddish can't shoot either and is not as good of a defender. He also is wildly inefficient. He struggles to finish in traffic.

Does Barrett need to work on his shot? Sure he does. Inefficient as Bembry, I don't think so.

Barrett:
TS% .534 eFG .505

Bembry:
TS% .494 eFG .475

Pay attention to his smarts. He shut down the three point attempts and went 8 of 16 in the 2nd half. 11 boards and two blocks thrown in for the fun of it.

https://balldurham.com/2019/01/26/duke-basketball-sloppy-blue-devils-use-big-run-georgia-tech/