Trade for Thon Maker

[davefmcl]

Is he a good fit for our team/system?
What would be a realistic trade for him?

[kg01]

I say no.

He's not better than Len or probably even Plumlee. He has no value really and I can't imagine MIL attaching an asset to move him. May as well sign some gleague big.

[King Ken]

No, he sucks

[Spud2nique]

I’d pass on Thon. I like his size but not his ceiling.

[hawkmanreturns]

I'd rather take a chance on Okafur. He always had game but not the maturity in Philly. Having some adversity seems to have helped him mature a bit. If his head's on straight he's more than capable of having a long NBA career. I refuse to believe that a big man with elite post skills can't work in the NBA. I'd rather get him while he's young and cheap.

[atlantabbq99]

Not a good fit. He is an old school center and TS is building a new age GSW clone in Atlanta.

TS will be looking for a center with PG skills like Draymond or Jokic.

[fuzzy1]

If it's a highly protected 2nd sure

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[EazyRoc]

Of course you get Maker if he is available. He came in the league relatively raw, but fits what we want here. Long term, I think he can shoot, handle, pass, and defend at a high level (think super “glue guy”) for a C in this league. He’s still another 2-3 years away from his best ball. If we get Thon Maker in a trade, Travis Schlenk would be GM of the Year for me.

We have to remember that Bud just doesn’t like to play young players. Thon Maker in particular is raw, but still has a rare skill set for his size. Most importantly, if he can continue to make gains with his body, he will develop into the prototypical modern day center. Long, mobile, solid perimeter skills, and rim protection. He could check all those boxes in a few years.

He’s only 21 and can’t find time on a winning team. He’s MUCH better than Plumlee (lol) and will likely be better than Len with minutes. As long as we don’t spend too much, I’d pull the trigger.

[dms269]

Unless you are giving up a 2nd that is not our own this year, you don't make the deal. He hasn't made great strides and is still too raw. 3rd year in the league and he is still struggling.

I am still not convinced he isn't like 25.

[kg01]

Of course you get Maker if he is available. He came in the league relatively raw, but fits what we want here. Long term, I think he can shoot, handle, pass, and defend at a high level (think super “glue guy”) for a C in this league. He’s still another 2-3 years away from his best ball. If we get Thon Maker in a trade, Travis Schlenk would be GM of the Year for me.

We have to remember that Bud just doesn’t like to play young players. Thon Maker in particular is raw, but still has a rare skill set for his size. Most importantly, if he can continue to make gains with his body, he will develop into the prototypical modern day center. Long, mobile, solid perimeter skills, and rim protection. He could check all those boxes in a few years.

He’s only 21 and can’t find time on a winning team. He’s MUCH better than Plumlee (lol) and will likely be better than Len with minutes. As long as we don’t spend too much, I’d pull the trigger.

If he could do any of that, he'd be playing for MIL right now.

And, no, he's not better than Plumlee. He should be, but he simply is not.

[MaceCase]

AD just requested a trade, what great timing for Milwaukee.

[EazyRoc]

Of course you get Maker if he is available. He came in the league relatively raw, but fits what we want here. Long term, I think he can shoot, handle, pass, and defend at a high level (think super “glue guy”) for a C in this league. He’s still another 2-3 years away from his best ball. If we get Thon Maker in a trade, Travis Schlenk would be GM of the Year for me.

We have to remember that Bud just doesn’t like to play young players. Thon Maker in particular is raw, but still has a rare skill set for his size. Most importantly, if he can continue to make gains with his body, he will develop into the prototypical modern day center. Long, mobile, solid perimeter skills, and rim protection. He could check all those boxes in a few years.

He’s only 21 and can’t find time on a winning team. He’s MUCH better than Plumlee (lol) and will likely be better than Len with minutes. As long as we don’t spend too much, I’d pull the trigger.

If he could do any of that, he'd be playing for MIL right now.

And, no, he's not better than Plumlee. He should be, but he simply is not.

You quoted me out of context. He has shown the ability to do all those things, but needs playing time to put it together. He’s 21 and still needs 2-3 seasons getting good consistent minutes.

He’s not going to get that under Coach Bud because that’s not the way he develops players. We’ve seen that from his time here in Atlanta.

I’ll take the 21 year old C with room to grow vs the 30 year old journeyman bench rider. I guess it’s a matter of preference..

[kg01]

Of course you get Maker if he is available. He came in the league relatively raw, but fits what we want here. Long term, I think he can shoot, handle, pass, and defend at a high level (think super “glue guy”) for a C in this league. He’s still another 2-3 years away from his best ball. If we get Thon Maker in a trade, Travis Schlenk would be GM of the Year for me.

We have to remember that Bud just doesn’t like to play young players. Thon Maker in particular is raw, but still has a rare skill set for his size. Most importantly, if he can continue to make gains with his body, he will develop into the prototypical modern day center. Long, mobile, solid perimeter skills, and rim protection. He could check all those boxes in a few years.

He’s only 21 and can’t find time on a winning team. He’s MUCH better than Plumlee (lol) and will likely be better than Len with minutes. As long as we don’t spend too much, I’d pull the trigger.

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If he could do any of that, he'd be playing for MIL right now.

And, no, he's not better than Plumlee. He should be, but he simply is not.

You quoted me out of context. He has shown the ability to do all those things, but needs playing time to put it together. He’s 21 and still needs 2-3 seasons getting good consistent minutes.

He’s not going to get that under Coach Bud because that’s not the way he develops players. We’ve seen that from his time here in Atlanta.

I’ll take the 21 year old C with room to grow vs the 30 year old journeyman bench rider. I guess it’s a matter of preference..

What you're saying makes sense, in theory. I'm in no way a Buttz apologist but I'm starting to think the knock that he has for refusing to play young guys isn't as 'earned' as I once thought.

What he doesn't do is force-feed minutes to young guys who aren't helping the team win games. He played Dennis as a rookie until he was no longer effective. Same with Prince and, IIRC, same with Collins. Shiii, even Muscala played young. None of our other rookies warranted time in the league overall.

In MIL, that Wilson guy was considered in danger of being out of the league. Well, he's now in their rotation. Same with Sterling Brown. Young guy, earned time with his play.

On Maker, he's shown glimpses of a play here and there. Played well vs the Selltics for a minute or two but not for overall games.

Long story long, I see where you're coming from. I'd certainly want us to target guys who could have high ceilings like Maker should. I'd greatly prefer a guy like that to be getting minutes over a guy like Plumlee. We agree there.

I just question the degree to which Maker actually has upside. I feel like, if he had all that, Buttz would be playing him .. at least some. Would we want a guy who excelled (to the extent that Maker excelled) in Kidd's "system" but couldn't find a place in Buttz'?

[dms269]

I'm not for giving playing time to people unless they earn it. Thon's demand for playing time seems to be a bit whiny. Show that you can perform and earn playing time. If Milwaukee thought you could play, you would be doing that right now.

[Buzzard]

I'm not for giving playing time to people unless they earn it. Thon's demand for playing time seems to be a bit whiny. Show that you can perform and earn playing time. If Milwaukee thought you could play, you would be doing that right now.

He wants to get paid and being buried behind Lopez, who shoots the three, playing Bud Ball will not get him the minutes. I am not sure he will ever be a starting caliber center; but he is probably worth a look for a couple of 2nd round picks.

Problem with us is unless we move Dedmon or Len, the minutes will not be there.

[ATL Boy]

I'd do it for cheap. I'm not going to say no to accumulating talent on a rebuilding team. Worst-case scenario, he can't stick and you pay him on a rookie-scale contract for a couple of more seasons. Best-case scenario, he becomes a very good contributor whom you got for cheap.

[Sultanofatl]

Size matters. A cheap athletic 7 footer is worth a 2nd(see Len)

[Jamaaliver]

Size matters. A cheap athletic 7 footer is worth a 2nd(see Len)

+1000


If we're willing to invest a 1st round pick (and a roster spot) on el chubbo Omari, we should be willing to invest that much in a guy like Maker with as much (more?) upside.

[peoriabird]

Size matters. A cheap athletic 7 footer is worth a 2nd(see Len)

+1000


If we're willing to invest a 1st round pick (and a roster spot) on el chubbo Omari, we should be willing to invest that much in a guy like Maker with as much (more?) upside.

El Chubbo can actually shoot and has good athleticism...And if they can decrease his body fat to 15-18% then he might be a really good player

[Jamaaliver]

Size matters. A cheap athletic 7 footer is worth a 2nd(see Len)

+1000


If we're willing to invest a 1st round pick (and a roster spot) on el chubbo Omari, we should be willing to invest that much in a guy like Maker with as much (more?) upside.

El Chubbo can actually shoot and has good athleticism...And if they can decrease his body fat to 15-18% then he might be a really good player

Dude looks like Theodore, Alvin's chubby little brother from The Chipmunks...