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jayu70 wrote:I've been thinking:
Sign Danny Green (3nD wing) and Joakim Noah (defensive PnR C)as FAs in the offseason.

Jamaaliver wrote:

jayu70 wrote:I've been thinking:
Sign Danny Green (3nD wing) and Joakim Noah (defensive PnR C)as FAs in the offseason.

Wait. It's fashionable to sign Joakim Noah again?!?

Man, what a difference NOT playing for the Knicks makes.

shakes0 wrote:I think it all starts with getting a rim protecting center. Someone like that can make up for a lot of defensive mistakes from other players and also allow our guys to defend guys closer on the perimeter knowing they have help behind them.

Jamaaliver wrote:

shakes0 wrote:I think it all starts with getting a rim protecting center. Someone like that can make up for a lot of defensive mistakes from other players and also allow our guys to defend guys closer on the perimeter knowing they have help behind them.

Know any good ones that are available, affordable and able to defend in space?

shakes0 wrote:

Jamaaliver wrote:

shakes0 wrote:I think it all starts with getting a rim protecting center. Someone like that can make up for a lot of defensive mistakes from other players and also allow our guys to defend guys closer on the perimeter knowing they have help behind them.

Know any good ones that are available, affordable and able to defend in space?

I got no clue. And there's definitely no one in the draft who fits that description.

peoriabird wrote:

shakes0 wrote:

Jamaaliver wrote:


Know any good ones that are available, affordable and able to defend in space?

I got no clue. And there's definitely no one in the draft who fits that description.

I got a name for you;


Dwyane Dedmon!

jayu70 wrote:I've been thinking:
Sign Danny Green (3nD wing) and Joakim Noah (defensive PnR C)as FAs in the offseason.

jayu70 wrote:

peoriabird wrote:I'm saying that they are getting better. I see improvement with John Collin and Prince. I also see improved effort with Trae. I get tired of listening to the Roland and Siegel narrative that no Hawk ever improves... The claim at the beginning of the season was John is what he is a non starter and rookies are bad so Trae will be bad offensively. They have since given up on criticizing their offense because of so much growth and now have move on to criticize them defensively. All I am saying is give these guys a chance to become men and gel as a defensive unit. After a few seasons together, then criticize if you feel compelled to do so. It's just way too early to judge now.

Here you go Peo...Like you said...getting better perhaps. Hopefully a sign of things to come next season!

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He’s drawn a fair bit of criticism for his defensive play this season, it has to be noted that he’s been better in [recent] weeks. The plays that were begging for a rotation and vertical rim protection are creeping their way into his game as his recognition improves.

Recent defensive developments point to him being more of a power forward in the future, as he’s become more adept at rotating as a weak-side rim protector. That spot also makes life easier on him physically, as he doesn’t have to bang with opposing centers in the post or on the glass and can use his explosive leaping ability to rotate and erase shots at the basket.

jayu70 wrote:

jayu70 wrote:

peoriabird wrote:I'm saying that they are getting better. I see improvement with John Collin and Prince. I also see improved effort with Trae. I get tired of listening to the Roland and Siegel narrative that no Hawk ever improves... The claim at the beginning of the season was John is what he is a non starter and rookies are bad so Trae will be bad offensively. They have since given up on criticizing their offense because of so much growth and now have move on to criticize them defensively. All I am saying is give these guys a chance to become men and gel as a defensive unit. After a few seasons together, then criticize if you feel compelled to do so. It's just way too early to judge now.

Here you go Peo...Like you said...getting better perhaps. Hopefully a sign of things to come next season!

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More improvement on defense for you Peo....

He’s drawn a fair bit of criticism for his defensive play this season, it has to be noted that he’s been better in [recent] weeks. The plays that were begging for a rotation and vertical rim protection are creeping their way into his game as his recognition improves.

Recent defensive developments point to him being more of a power forward in the future, as he’s become more adept at rotating as a weak-side rim protector. That spot also makes life easier on him physically, as he doesn’t have to bang with opposing centers in the post or on the glass and can use his explosive leaping ability to rotate and erase shots at the basket.

Sometimes I prefer to believe my lying eyes more so that all these defensive metrics.


https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2019/3/26/18281990/atlanta-hawks-john-collins-development-growth-rebuild-offense-playmaking-defense-quotes-philosophy

AJC: Justin (Anderson) mentioned how he felt that you haven’t implemented your defensive system from your days in Philadelphia. Is there a reason why you didn’t implement it?



Coach Lloyd Pierce: Not ready. And I say that, we implemented our system of what we want. You know, playoff basketball as you guys all know is different than regular-season basketball. And then when you go into playoffs, you’re able to use, you know I use post defense. There are six different blitzes that we can do with a post guy. There’s a lot of thinking and a lot of rotations that you have to work on. I just want us to be able to guard the post one-on-one first, and then provide a crowd behind it. And that takes a mentality for us to do, and we’re still implementing the mentality. We’re still trying to figure out the ability to get our foundation right, and can we get our foundation right. And that just takes time.

I thought John (Collins) got better defensively as the season went on, but we struggle as a unit, and it took him a while to get going on that side. I thought Trae got better defensively as the season went on, but still relative of where we want him to be. And I’ll take the hit, and I’ll continue to take the hit on that. I want to do it right. I don’t want to just say we’re a better defensive team and we’re just going to throw out all kinds of different coverages and it looks good.

Jamaaliver wrote:

AJC: Justin (Anderson) mentioned how he felt that you haven’t implemented your defensive system from your days in Philadelphia. Is there a reason why you didn’t implement it?



Coach Lloyd Pierce: Not ready. And I say that, we implemented our system of what we want. You know, playoff basketball as you guys all know is different than regular-season basketball. And then when you go into playoffs, you’re able to use, you know I use post defense. There are six different blitzes that we can do with a post guy. There’s a lot of thinking and a lot of rotations that you have to work on. I just want us to be able to guard the post one-on-one first, and then provide a crowd behind it. And that takes a mentality for us to do, and we’re still implementing the mentality. We’re still trying to figure out the ability to get our foundation right, and can we get our foundation right. And that just takes time.

I thought John (Collins) got better defensively as the season went on, but we struggle as a unit, and it took him a while to get going on that side. I thought Trae got better defensively as the season went on, but still relative of where we want him to be. And I’ll take the hit, and I’ll continue to take the hit on that. I want to do it right. I don’t want to just say we’re a better defensive team and we’re just going to throw out all kinds of different coverages and it looks good.

AJC.com

Jamaaliver wrote:I don't think it's too inflammatory to say we need better defenders on this team.