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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#921 » by Spud2nique » Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:26 pm

dms269 wrote:Fun times in Atlanta. We get the report we are shopping JC and everyone is coming out of the woodworks with their "proposals" aka, what is the least we can offer to get him.

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/13/nba-rumors-atlanta-hawks-los-angeles-lakers-trade-john-collins-2/2/
Hawks Out:
Collins
Dunn

Lakers out:
Harzell
Horton-Tucker
2026 1st
2023 2nd


Ya I saw this one and Trez is my boy. Horton Tucker would be the piece that pushes the deal to me though that kid can ball. Having said that, if we get Trez we almost have too much beef with him, Okongwu and Capela. Then again you need beef when you have Trae.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#922 » by Spud2nique » Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:48 pm

At the same time I don’t want to do a deal with the Lakers because we aren’t their farm system. Feels like an Uncle Tom bend over for the bigger cell mate type trade, nah.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#923 » by heater4life » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:34 pm

If Miami and ATL engaged in a trade, what would you guys want?
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#924 » by graymule » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:54 pm

:D

Trade talk over on the Squawk has the Hawks offering Snell and Rondo. Both are being held out tonight.
Want to start some trade rumors? Here's a small clue. You take it from here.

:lol:
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#925 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:58 pm

heater4life wrote:If Miami and ATL engaged in a trade, what would you guys want?


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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#926 » by Spud2nique » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:39 am

My dream trade (it’ll never happen but I can dream)

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydgk5dnq

Hawks get: Jokic + Barton

Nuggets get: Collins+ Capela+ Cam+ Gallo

Hawks lineup:

Trae/Rondo
Huerter/Mays
Bogi/Barton
Hunter/Okongwu
Jokic/Bruno


This is only possible in a dream, but can you imagine Trae with Jokic.

I always thought I wanted Giannis out of everyone available in the league but I think Jokic would be my #1 guy in the league at the moment.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#927 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:54 pm

Desperation Trades for NBA's Biggest Buyers and Sellers

Hawks Eye Oladipo as Missing Playoff Piece, Rockets Build Young Core

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Atlanta Hawks receive:
Victor Oladipo, Ben McLemore and 2021 first-round pick (lottery-protected, via POR)

Houston Rockets receive: John Collins, Cam Reddish and Tony Snell

The Hawks have been plotting their 2021 playoff push for a while. That's why they traded for Clint Capela at the 2020 deadline and then forked over major cash in free agency to ink Bogdan Bogdanovic, Danilo Gallinari, Rajon Rondo and Kris Dunn.

Atlanta remains in striking distance of the play-in tournament, but it seems a big external lift is required to position this group for something more substantial than a first-round cameo. A major move for Victor Oladipo, who the Rockets would reportedly consider trading, per Marc Berman of the New York Post, could be that boost.

The 28-year-old has had trouble shaking the injury bug this season—his second since rupturing the quad tendon in his right knee—and it shows on the stat sheet in the form of his forgettable 40.1/32.9/74.0 slash line.

But more often than not, he's looked the part of a capable offensive costar (20-plus points in 11 of 20 games), and his point-of-attack defense would help with the Hawks' biggest weakness (their 21st-ranked defense).

If Oladipo gets his legs under him, he could be the perfect backcourt complement to Trae Young. Ben McLemore would slot in somewhere among Atlanta's support staff as a spacing specialist.

Since the "if healthy" caveat needs mentioning with Oladipo, Houston would have to grease the gears of this exchange with a first-round pick. But that might be a sacrifice the Rockets are willing to make since they have plenty of other picks headed their way and could put a higher priority on more known commodities like John Collins and Cam Reddish. Tony Snell would simply be a money-matcher and quite possibly a buyout candidate.

Collins' ability to operate inside and out would help him play and develop alongside Christian Wood. Throw in the multi-talented Cam Reddish and the relentless Jae'Sean Tate, and Houston would have an interesting 25-and-under nucleus to start building around.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#928 » by Spud2nique » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:35 am

Jamaaliver wrote:
Desperation Trades for NBA's Biggest Buyers and Sellers

Hawks Eye Oladipo as Missing Playoff Piece, Rockets Build Young Core

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Atlanta Hawks receive:
Victor Oladipo, Ben McLemore and 2021 first-round pick (lottery-protected, via POR)

Houston Rockets receive: John Collins, Cam Reddish and Tony Snell

The Hawks have been plotting their 2021 playoff push for a while. That's why they traded for Clint Capela at the 2020 deadline and then forked over major cash in free agency to ink Bogdan Bogdanovic, Danilo Gallinari, Rajon Rondo and Kris Dunn.

Atlanta remains in striking distance of the play-in tournament, but it seems a big external lift is required to position this group for something more substantial than a first-round cameo. A major move for Victor Oladipo, who the Rockets would reportedly consider trading, per Marc Berman of the New York Post, could be that boost.

The 28-year-old has had trouble shaking the injury bug this season—his second since rupturing the quad tendon in his right knee—and it shows on the stat sheet in the form of his forgettable 40.1/32.9/74.0 slash line.

But more often than not, he's looked the part of a capable offensive costar (20-plus points in 11 of 20 games), and his point-of-attack defense would help with the Hawks' biggest weakness (their 21st-ranked defense).

If Oladipo gets his legs under him, he could be the perfect backcourt complement to Trae Young. Ben McLemore would slot in somewhere among Atlanta's support staff as a spacing specialist.

Since the "if healthy" caveat needs mentioning with Oladipo, Houston would have to grease the gears of this exchange with a first-round pick. But that might be a sacrifice the Rockets are willing to make since they have plenty of other picks headed their way and could put a higher priority on more known commodities like John Collins and Cam Reddish. Tony Snell would simply be a money-matcher and quite possibly a buyout candidate.

Collins' ability to operate inside and out would help him play and develop alongside Christian Wood. Throw in the multi-talented Cam Reddish and the relentless Jae'Sean Tate, and Houston would have an interesting 25-and-under nucleus to start building around.
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Schlenk wouldn’t. Not this deal no way.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#929 » by jayu70 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:17 am

Jamaaliver wrote:
Desperation Trades for NBA's Biggest Buyers and Sellers

Hawks Eye Oladipo as Missing Playoff Piece, Rockets Build Young Core

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Atlanta Hawks receive:
Victor Oladipo, Ben McLemore and 2021 first-round pick (lottery-protected, via POR)

Houston Rockets receive: John Collins, Cam Reddish and Tony Snell

The Hawks have been plotting their 2021 playoff push for a while. That's why they traded for Clint Capela at the 2020 deadline and then forked over major cash in free agency to ink Bogdan Bogdanovic, Danilo Gallinari, Rajon Rondo and Kris Dunn.

Atlanta remains in striking distance of the play-in tournament, but it seems a big external lift is required to position this group for something more substantial than a first-round cameo. A major move for Victor Oladipo, who the Rockets would reportedly consider trading, per Marc Berman of the New York Post, could be that boost.

The 28-year-old has had trouble shaking the injury bug this season—his second since rupturing the quad tendon in his right knee—and it shows on the stat sheet in the form of his forgettable 40.1/32.9/74.0 slash line.

But more often than not, he's looked the part of a capable offensive costar (20-plus points in 11 of 20 games), and his point-of-attack defense would help with the Hawks' biggest weakness (their 21st-ranked defense).

If Oladipo gets his legs under him, he could be the perfect backcourt complement to Trae Young. Ben McLemore would slot in somewhere among Atlanta's support staff as a spacing specialist.

Since the "if healthy" caveat needs mentioning with Oladipo, Houston would have to grease the gears of this exchange with a first-round pick. But that might be a sacrifice the Rockets are willing to make since they have plenty of other picks headed their way and could put a higher priority on more known commodities like John Collins and Cam Reddish. Tony Snell would simply be a money-matcher and quite possibly a buyout candidate.

Collins' ability to operate inside and out would help him play and develop alongside Christian Wood. Throw in the multi-talented Cam Reddish and the relentless Jae'Sean Tate, and Houston would have an interesting 25-and-under nucleus to start building around.
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This makes no sense - trading for a guy who's always injured and FA who is looking to be paid and decide to sign elsewhere?. We already have another injured SG, no need to add another to our plethora of injured players.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#930 » by NYG » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:44 am

Jalen Smith (top 10 pick a few months ago) and 2027 unprotected Suns 1st for John Collins? Is Smith too underwhelming and that Suns pick too far down the line? Are Collins and Ayton a horrible fit?

I'm not a Suns or Hawks fan, but just wonder if that's close on the value considering it resets the contract for Atlanta
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#931 » by Spud2nique » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:04 am

NYG wrote:Jalen Smith (top 10 pick a few months ago) and 2027 unprotected Suns 1st for John Collins? Is Smith too underwhelming and that Suns pick too far down the line? Are Collins and Ayton a horrible fit?

I'm not a Suns or Hawks fan, but just wonder if that's close on the value considering it resets the contract for Atlanta


2027 :lol: Ayton and Collins are a fabulous fit but I wouldn’t touch this deal with a 50 foot pole. Why on earth would we regress in movement towards the playoffs? 2027 :lol: you’re a character! :wink:
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#932 » by shakes0 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:23 pm

NYG wrote:Jalen Smith (top 10 pick a few months ago) and 2027 unprotected Suns 1st for John Collins? Is Smith too underwhelming and that Suns pick too far down the line? Are Collins and Ayton a horrible fit?

I'm not a Suns or Hawks fan, but just wonder if that's close on the value considering it resets the contract for Atlanta


Jalen SMith was only a top 10 pick in a terrible draft because the Suns reached for him. In a normal draft he is at best a borderline FRP. This is an EZ HELL NO from ATL.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#933 » by jayu70 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:25 pm

NYG wrote:Jalen Smith (top 10 pick a few months ago) and 2027 unprotected Suns 1st for John Collins? Is Smith too underwhelming and that Suns pick too far down the line? Are Collins and Ayton a horrible fit?

I'm not a Suns or Hawks fan, but just wonder if that's close on the value considering it resets the contract for Atlanta

Unless stated otherwise or elsewhere, Hawks are still trying to make the playoffs THIS YEAR. This trade doesn't do that. We drafted a PF at #6 who can't get minutes right now, another rookie won't help our play off hopes. Gallinari cannot be our starting PF.
A 1st round pick 6 years away also isn't appealing.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#934 » by skywalker33 » Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:57 pm

Spud2nique wrote:My dream trade (it’ll never happen but I can dream)

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydgk5dnq

Hawks get: Jokic + Barton

Nuggets get: Collins+ Capela+ Cam+ Gallo

Hawks lineup:

Trae/Rondo
Huerter/Mays
Bogi/Barton
Hunter/Okongwu
Jokic/Bruno


This is only possible in a dream, but can you imagine Trae with Jokic.

I always thought I wanted Giannis out of everyone available in the league but I think Jokic would be my #1 guy in the league at the moment.


LMAO, at least we all know what type of dream that one is..........improbably, of course :lol:
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Exactly as I've been saying all along !!
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#935 » by Spud2nique » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:07 am

skywalker33 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:My dream trade (it’ll never happen but I can dream)

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydgk5dnq

Hawks get: Jokic + Barton

Nuggets get: Collins+ Capela+ Cam+ Gallo

Hawks lineup:

Trae/Rondo
Huerter/Mays
Bogi/Barton
Hunter/Okongwu
Jokic/Bruno


This is only possible in a dream, but can you imagine Trae with Jokic.

I always thought I wanted Giannis out of everyone available in the league but I think Jokic would be my #1 guy in the league at the moment.


LMAO, at least we all know what type of dream that one is..........improbably, of course :lol:


Only if improbable means wet :lol:
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#936 » by Radioblacktive1 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:35 pm

Read on Twitter
?s=21

This is starting to hurt. I knew trading for him was nothing to scoff at.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#937 » by D21 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:15 pm

Yes, he has improved a lot.
-1.9 NET rating for the season (Off rating at 113.3 and Def rating at 115.3), but on the last 10 games, he's at +7.6 (118.5 and 110.9)
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#938 » by myrak433 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:03 pm

Radioblacktive1 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21

This is starting to hurt. I knew trading for him was nothing to scoff at.


I fought the good fight, in the debate on trading for Lavine (and got killed for it). It’s to late now, he has totally out played his contract. I saw it coming.

Now I see it coming with Zo Ball. The Hawks should trade for him.
December of 2019 “Trae Young Involved in 'Emotional' Locker Room Scene After Hawks Loss. Atlanta Hawks star Trae Young is unsurprisingly getting tired of the team's struggles.”

Get Trae some HELP!!!!
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#939 » by Radioblacktive1 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:04 pm

I wonder if Zach was even on Schlenk’s radar
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3 

Post#940 » by jayu70 » Mon Mar 1, 2021 1:07 am

jayu70 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:
Desperation Trades for NBA's Biggest Buyers and Sellers

Hawks Eye Oladipo as Missing Playoff Piece, Rockets Build Young Core



Atlanta Hawks receive:
Victor Oladipo, Ben McLemore and 2021 first-round pick (lottery-protected, via POR)

Houston Rockets receive: John Collins, Cam Reddish and Tony Snell

The Hawks have been plotting their 2021 playoff push for a while. That's why they traded for Clint Capela at the 2020 deadline and then forked over major cash in free agency to ink Bogdan Bogdanovic, Danilo Gallinari, Rajon Rondo and Kris Dunn.

Atlanta remains in striking distance of the play-in tournament, but it seems a big external lift is required to position this group for something more substantial than a first-round cameo. A major move for Victor Oladipo, who the Rockets would reportedly consider trading, per Marc Berman of the New York Post, could be that boost.

around.
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This makes no sense - trading for a guy who's always injured and FA who is looking to be paid and decide to sign elsewhere?. We already have another injured SG, no need to add another to our plethora of injured players.

Read on Twitter
?s=20
so yeah this trade makes zero sense for the Hawks.

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