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Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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Which of these pre-season favorites are you most looking forward to seeing in the NBA?

Cole Anthony | PG | UNC
0
No votes
Anthony Edwards | SG | UGA
10
56%
RJ Hampton | PG/SG | New Zealand
1
6%
James Wiseman | C | Memphis
6
33%
Lamelo Ball | PG/SG | Australia
1
6%
 
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Re: Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#61 » by kg01 » Sat Aug 3, 2019 12:57 pm

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FTR, I'm not even convinced he has a great IQ or knows how to play organized ball. When's the last time this kid played on a structured bball team that wasn't created specifically to showcase his skills?

And that's what's unfortunate for him. Can he fit in a team concept where it's not just about him.

His last run he was actually playing winning basketball, getting his teammates involved and allat. He did a complete 180 in his approach to the game after playing pro overseas.


Drew league?
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Post#62 » by jjames » Wed Aug 7, 2019 7:00 am

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Post#63 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Aug 8, 2019 3:18 pm

Scouting Biggest Weakness of Every Top 2020 Prospect

James Wiseman (Memphis, C, Freshman)



Weakness to monitor: Feel for the game/toughness

There are scouts who'd bet on James Wiseman as 2020's top pick. Others will have concerns about how his questionable feel for the game will limit the impact his undeniable talent should be making.

Athletic with 7'0" size and a 7'6" wingspan, Wiseman is an easy-basket weapon around the basket. His tools and bounce should result in a greater impact on defense and the glass, however.

He tends to hunt for blocks and fall out of position. His pick-and-roll coverage and reads need work. Between 21 EYBL and Peach Jam games last year, he averaged just 6.6 rebounds.

Offensively, Wiseman can have trouble resisting the urge to showcase perimeter skills that aren't sharp enough. Though he's improved his jump shot and ball-handling, low-percentage step-back jumpers or fallaways are part of his shot selection, which can be frustrating.

Wiseman appeared to take a step in the right direction at the Nike Hoop Summit. But to go No. 1 or maintain his status as premier prospect for 2020, he'll want to diminish concerns about his feel and toughness at both ends.
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Re: Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#64 » by EazyRoc » Fri Aug 9, 2019 5:02 am

kg01 wrote:
EazyRoc wrote:
jayu70 wrote:And that's what's unfortunate for him. Can he fit in a team concept where it's not just about him.

His last run he was actually playing winning basketball, getting his teammates involved and allat. He did a complete 180 in his approach to the game after playing pro overseas.


Drew league?

Yea. I think it’ll translate well in the right situation next year.

He’s a very skilled passer, shifty ball handler, and good perimeter shooter at 6’8”. If Lonzo plays pro ball somewhere decent, he will be a top 5 lock next year IMO. I still think he’s a lottery pick even playing in Australia. He’s got pro experience in another equally uninspiring league so I don’t think there’ll be a big adjustment period.
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Re: Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#65 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Aug 9, 2019 3:06 pm

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Post#66 » by D21 » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:10 pm

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Three international prospects in the Top5, I don't think it has ever happened before...
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Re: Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#67 » by kg01 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:09 pm

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EazyRoc wrote:His last run he was actually playing winning basketball, getting his teammates involved and allat. He did a complete 180 in his approach to the game after playing pro overseas.


Drew league?

Yea. I think it’ll translate well in the right situation next year.

He’s a very skilled passer, shifty ball handler, and good perimeter shooter at 6’8”. If Lonzo plays pro ball somewhere decent, he will be a top 5 lock next year IMO. I still think he’s a lottery pick even playing in Australia. He’s got pro experience in another equally uninspiring league so I don’t think there’ll be a big adjustment period.


Nothing in Drew league translates. Let's wait and see what he does this year.
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Post#68 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:44 pm

Jaden McDaniels (Washington, PF, Freshman)

NBA Position: SF/PF
Class: Freshman
Ht: 6-10
Wt: 185

NBA Comparison: Jonathan Isaac

Strengths: 6’11 versatile forward … Good size and length for position with a 6’11.5 wingspan and 8’11 standing reach … Good agility, mobility, and fluidity at his size. Good athleticism and body control. Finishes plays above the rim with ease … Good potential as a jump shooter, especially in catch and shoot situations. Shoots with no wasted motion and quick release. Scores from midrange and has range out to three. Scored 19.2 points per game while shooting 50% FG% over the Nike EYBL in 2018 … Solid court vision and passing ability for his size … Good rebounder on both ends. Finished seventh over the Nike EYBL in 2018 with 9.3 rebounds per game with 3.1 per game coming on offense … Good versatility as a defender with his size, mobility, and coordination. Averaged 1.4 blocks per game over the Nike EYBL in 2018 … Late bloomer with long-term upside …

Weaknesses: Still improving as a three-point shooter. Shot 29.2% 3P% at 4.1 attempts per game over the Nike EYBL in 2018 … Half-court offense has a way to go, as well as playing off the ball. Offense can be predictable. Tends to settle for contested pull-ups even in transition. Can improve getting to the rim and scoring off the dribble … Must be more assertive, tends to blend in … Can get more action playing off the ball, tends to settle for spotting up on the perimeter … Can develop a post-game to utilize size mismatches around the basket … Solid passing ability but telegraphs passes at times and can limit the turnovers. Averaged 2.9 turnovers per game over the Nike EYBL in 2018 … Very skinny and has a lot of room to get stronger in both upper and lower body. Only weighed 182 pounds at the 2018 USA Minicamp in October of his senior year ...
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Jaden McDaniels' talent and skill versatility suggest he should be closer to the top five. However, his impact and execution aren't always consistent, so that's what he'll need to show more of during what will likely be his only season at Washington.

For a 6'9" forward, McDaniels' game screams mismatch with ball-handling ability in the open floor, a smooth shooting stroke and the ability to create for himself. His defensive tools and range are also promising and point to valuable switchability.

Will he be a highlights-over-substance player? Can he contribute during games in which his jumper won't fall?

Those are the question marks that could push McDaniels down into the 20s. But consistent flashes of inside-out scoring, effort translating to easy baskets and defensive concentration could move him closer to the top of the board.
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Re: Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#69 » by Jamaaliver » Today 3:09 pm

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This is bad news for NBA teams still dealing with LaVar fatigue, but it’s entirely possible LaMelo ends up being the best player in his family. It took very little time to recognize that from a pure offensive skill standpoint, LaMelo, now 18 years old and standing a legit 6’6”, is much further along as a scorer than Lonzo was at the same stage. Throwing the stats from the game out (honestly, I made a point of not looking at them) and focusing purely on what he does well, it was evident LaMelo possesses much more natural shake and change of pace off the dribble, and while his jumper is still unorthodox, it’s a quicker, cleaner release that he’s able to get to much more comfortably than his brother. The youngest Ball is also an extremely impressive passer, consistently hitting ahead in transition, delivering crisp pocket passes to the screener in pick-and-roll situations, and facilitating team-wide ball movement with his play. He’s not a stellar athlete, but his ability to move the ball and relocate without it points to a great deal of understanding, and makes his strengths feel translatable on a base level.

What we can’t know relative to Lonzo (who is simply a convenient point of comparison) is whether LaMelo can match his brother’s all-around impact, particularly on defense; LaMelo is clearly the more scoring oriented of the two, but if he can continue to strike an appropriate balance between scoring and playmaking, it would seem he has a chance to be better. This is all relative, and the jury’s far from out on how good Lonzo ends up being, so take it for what it is—the point is that LaMelo looks like a player teams will need to take very seriously (if they aren’t already).
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Post#70 » by Jamaaliver » Today 3:37 pm

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"The Memphis Tigers are excited to invite NBA teams to our 2019 pro day," Hardaway said. "They will find a wide range of players with different specialties. We would like for front offices to get a firsthand look at our student-athletes before the season to become familiar with our roster and track their improvements throughout the 2019-20 season."

The pro day will be held at the Tigers' practice facility, with a format similar to the NBA draft combine, including measurements, athletic testing, shooting drills and an hour of live 3-on-3 and 5-on-5 scrimmages. Memphis will also open practice the next day for NBA scouts.

The Tigers have one of the most attractive teams in college basketball for NBA scouting purposes, featuring two players currently projected as top-10 draft picks in freshmen James Wiseman and Precious Achiuwa. ESPN recruiting experts ranked Memphis' incoming class as No. 1 in college basketball, as it also features D.J. Jeffries (No. 25 in the ESPN 100), Boogie Ellis (No. 39), Lester Quinones (No. 84) and four-star point guard Damian Baugh, who impressed during the team's trip to the Bahamas last week.
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Post#71 » by kg01 » Today 4:25 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:WTH?

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"The Memphis Tigers are excited to invite NBA teams to our 2019 pro day," Hardaway said. "They will find a wide range of players with different specialties. We would like for front offices to get a firsthand look at our student-athletes before the season to become familiar with our roster and track their improvements throughout the 2019-20 season."

The pro day will be held at the Tigers' practice facility, with a format similar to the NBA draft combine, including measurements, athletic testing, shooting drills and an hour of live 3-on-3 and 5-on-5 scrimmages. Memphis will also open practice the next day for NBA scouts.

The Tigers have one of the most attractive teams in college basketball for NBA scouting purposes, featuring two players currently projected as top-10 draft picks in freshmen James Wiseman and Precious Achiuwa. ESPN recruiting experts ranked Memphis' incoming class as No. 1 in college basketball, as it also features D.J. Jeffries (No. 25 in the ESPN 100), Boogie Ellis (No. 39), Lester Quinones (No. 84) and four-star point guard Damian Baugh, who impressed during the team's trip to the Bahamas last week.


Ol Penni figures ain't no need to fake the funk. Ain't like he brought them there to go to school. This likely helps his recruiting efforts.

People will be all upset about it until Coach K does the same dang thing. Then folks'll be all, "Ooh lookit Coach K. So innovative."

Also, just so you know, @jamalllo. We're just waiting for the day when you lobby for us to draft L'melo Ball to play over Trae. It's all part of your 'nobody's untouchable' mentality. We know it's coming.
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Post#72 » by Jamaaliver » Today 4:38 pm

kg01 wrote:Also, just so you know, @jamalllo. We're just waiting for the day when you lobby for us to draft L'melo Ball to play over Trae. It's all part of your 'nobody's untouchable' mentality. We know it's coming.


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