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Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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What would you like to see the Hawks do with the #6 pick?

Trade the Pick for a vet
0
No votes
Trade into the top 3
4
33%
Trade for later/future picks
1
8%
Draft Best Player Available
1
8%
Draft TYRESE HALIBURTON
1
8%
Draft ONYEKA OKONGWU
2
17%
Draft ISAAC OKORO
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No votes
Draft KILLIAN HAYES
3
25%
 
Total votes: 12

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Re: Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#821 » by kg01 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 7:08 pm

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Aleksej comes from the Greek league, which is not really known for producing quality NBA players and his stats as a pro are not impressive either.


Like Giannis?


Giannis iiuc came from a higher league than what this guys playing in and looked more impressive. So not exactly apples to apples.
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Post#822 » by Bob8 » Tue Sep 8, 2020 7:06 am

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Aleksej comes from the Greek league, which is not really known for producing quality NBA players and his stats as a pro are not impressive either.


Like Giannis?


Giannis iiuc came from a higher league than what this guys playing in and looked more impressive. So not exactly apples to apples.


No. Giannis played in third and second division of Greek league. I don't believe any Nba player from Europe has played in worse league.
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Post#823 » by jayu70 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:00 am

More time to spend picking apart the prospects, sigh!
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Post#824 » by KGdaBom » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:48 pm

jayu70 wrote:More time to spend picking apart the prospects, sigh!
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Yep another month of agony waiting for the draft to come.
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Post#827 » by HMFFL » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:43 pm

2. Golden State Warriors: Deni Avdija (Wing, Maccabi Tel Aviv)

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Post#828 » by HMFFL » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:46 pm

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Charlotte would be an excellent fit for LaMelo Ball. Maybe not longterm for himself but to have freedom in that system that lacks talent and an ownership that's going to spend will be easier for Melo to be productive. Possible ROY candidate if it happens.

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Post#829 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:42 pm

HMFFL wrote:Charlotte would be an excellent fit for LaMelo Ball. Maybe not longterm for himself but to have freedom in that system that lacks talent and an ownership that's going to spend will be easier for Melo to be productive. Possible ROY candidate if it happens.


I'd love to see a small market, long-suffering team like Charlotte get a high profile prospect like LaMelo. They could actually build some buzz in that town for that underwhelming franchise.

And I think he'd actually benefit going and growing in a small market away from the lime light of NY, CHI or San Francisco.

He'd hate it (initially), but playing for Mike Jordan could ultimately be appealing for a young kid trying to learn his craft.
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Post#830 » by KGdaBom » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:32 am

We're doing a fan voted big board over on the Timberwolves forum. Fist player to 5 votes or best out of 10 than it moves on to the next spot. I thought you might like to see it.
1. Edwards.
2. Ball
3. Wiseman
4. Avdija
5. Okongwu
6. Hayes
7. Vassell
8. Williams
9. Okoro
10. Haliburton
11. Toppin
12. S.Bey (3) Maxey (1) Pokusevsky (1)
Notice we are voting on #12 and Bey is leading with 3 votes. I thought Williams at 8 was surprising and I think it's cool to hate on Toppin right now, but I will be very surprised if he falls to 11. Once again this is not a mock draft. This is a Wolves based big board.
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Post#831 » by jayu70 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:16 pm

KGdaBom wrote:We're doing a fan voted big board over on the Timberwolves forum. Fist player to 5 votes or best out of 10 than it moves on to the next spot. I thought you might like to see it.
1. Edwards.
2. Ball
3. Wiseman
4. Avdija
5. Okongwu
6. Hayes
7. Vassell
8. Williams
9. Okoro
10. Haliburton
11. Toppin
12. S.Bey (3) Maxey (1) Pokusevsky (1)
Notice we are voting on #12 and Bey is leading with 3 votes. I thought Williams at 8 was surprising and I think it's cool to hate on Toppin right now, but I will be very surprised if he falls to 11. Once again this is not a mock draft. This is a Wolves based big board.

This is how he Hawks main board voted:

1. Anthony Edwards

2. James Wiseman

3. Onyeka Okongwu 

4. LaMelo Ball

5. Obi Toppin

6. Isaac Okoro

7. Tyrese Haliburton 

8. Killian Hayes

9. Deni Avdija 

10. Devin Vassell

11. Aaron Nesmith

12. Aleksej Pokusevski 

13. Cole Anthony

14. Siddiq Bey

15. Tyrese Maxey
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Re: Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#832 » by KGdaBom » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:24 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:We're doing a fan voted big board over on the Timberwolves forum. Fist player to 5 votes or best out of 10 than it moves on to the next spot. I thought you might like to see it.
1. Edwards.
2. Ball
3. Wiseman
4. Avdija
5. Okongwu
6. Hayes
7. Vassell
8. Williams
9. Okoro
10. Haliburton
11. Toppin
12. S.Bey (3) Maxey (1) Pokusevsky (1)
Notice we are voting on #12 and Bey is leading with 3 votes. I thought Williams at 8 was surprising and I think it's cool to hate on Toppin right now, but I will be very surprised if he falls to 11. Once again this is not a mock draft. This is a Wolves based big board.

This is how he Hawks main board voted:

1. Anthony Edwards

2. James Wiseman

3. Onyeka Okongwu 

4. LaMelo Ball

5. Obi Toppin

6. Isaac Okoro

7. Tyrese Haliburton 

8. Killian Hayes

9. Deni Avdija 

10. Devin Vassell

11. Aaron Nesmith

12. Aleksej Pokusevski 

13. Cole Anthony

14. Siddiq Bey

15. Tyrese Maxey

Mostly similar, but you have Toppin more where he belongs and you have Avdija IMO and our board way too low.
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Post#836 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:41 pm

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Re: Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#837 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:44 pm

If we were to trade out of the lottery, I'd be more than okay taking a gamble on this kid returning to form. He was projected as a top-10 pick a year ago. I believe his year in Australian pro ball was mostly to blame. Another year of development could do wonders for him long term.

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Hampton was a highly recruited prospect coming out of high school. He was fifth on ESPN’s Top 100 and received offers from big schools like Duke, Kentucky and Kansas. Rather than compete in the NCAA, Hampton chose to play overseas, ultimately hurting his draft stock.

He was only able to appear in 15 games before suffering a season-ending injury. It didn’t help he played just barely over 20 minutes per game in these matches, averaging 8.8 points and 3.9 rebounds. Hampton looked far from the elite scorer he was in high school.

However, much of this could be a result of playing against older competition in the NBL. His injury and limited minutes certainly didn’t help either. Hampton might still be capable of scoring in bunches with his smooth crossover and pull-up jumper.

The Warriors wouldn’t be too crazy to take a chance on him later in the lottery if they choose to trade back in the order. Hampton could one day be a reliable spark plug for their bench.
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Re: Appropriately early 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#838 » by jayu70 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:05 pm

Lots of rumors flying around regarding the draft...buying or selling
Atlanta Hawks: Buying

According to ESPN's Tim Bontemps, the Hawks are among the teams most expect will be active in trade talks with their pick. I'm buying Atlanta's willingness to make a move, given the front office's recent track record of draft-day swapping and the team's interest in moving up the standings.

The Hawks will presumably try to acquire a veteran or an immediate contributor like Spencer Dinwiddie or Buddy Hield, players who may be available. The alternative would be trying to package their young wings and forwards like De'Andre Hunter, Cam Reddish and Kevin Huerter to move up for a scorer like Anthony Edwards, though this admittedly sounds unrealistic.

Regardless, I suspect the Hawks will try to move from the No. 6 spot.


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Post#839 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:11 pm

This kid could be a real steal outside the lottery.

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RJ Hampton's improving jumper: Buying

One of the biggest challenges for evaluators in 2020 is assessing prospects' improvement since their final game, considering the extended length of this year's layoff. RJ Hampton hasn't played since January 12, over eight months ago. That's an enormous amount of time for a teenager to improve his jump shot, particularly during a pandemic, when social activities and other distractions are limited.

SNY's Ian Begley spoke with former NBA shooting specialist Mike Miller, who spent last year as an assistant under Penny Hardaway at Memphis and is now training a potential lottery pick in Hampton. Miller made some noteworthy comments regarding Hampton's shooting, a giant swing skill for the 6'5" combo guard.

"With him and the way he plays, if he shoots—which I'm pretty confident in—in the next two-three years he'll be a high-30s, low-40s percent three-point shooter, he'll be one of the best guards in the league," Miller told Begley.

"The consistencies I've seen with him, the stuff that he's worked on, it's the same stuff that I've worked on with tons of shooters in the league and I've seen the transformation, so I'm not guessing."

While all trainers tout their students, Miller's level of confidence is quite persuasive, particularly given his credibility and reputation for connecting with young players.

In 19 NBL games (including exhibitions), Hampton shot 15-of-53 from three and a promising 76.2 percent from the free-throw line. To suggest that in a few years he could go from capable to proficient isn't far-fetched. From what we saw overseas, Hampton could make outside shots, just not consistently.

Given his explosiveness attacking the basket and playmaking ability off the dribble, he doesn't need to shoot at Mike Miller levels. Even reaching the 35.0 percent three-point mark on average volume could go a long way for Hampton.

While there are scouts who've cooled on him, it also wouldn't be surprising if Hampton were able to sway one lottery team that's willing to bet on his jump-shot development.
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