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kg01 wrote:Obviously you want to spend prudently but, I mean, you gotta pay somebody at some point if you expect to have a winning team. These are good problems to have especially when we're used to overpaying guys to not win.
Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:Obviously you want to spend prudently but, I mean, you gotta pay somebody at some point if you expect to have a winning team. These are good problems to have especially when we're used to overpaying guys to not win.
These are good problems to have, I'm just thinking a couple of off-seasons ahead.
FTR, you're gonna laugh at what I hope for/expect us to do:Spoiler:
kg01 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:
*sigh* Here we go again.
I'd call that a good 3-man rotation for the 2/3, sometimes 4.
I agree that it's a good 3-man rotation.
But are the players willing to accept these roles long term?
Can we afford to pay huge rookie contract extensions to guys coming off the bench?
You have to take contract status into account for all these talented young players. Collins is up for a rookie contract extension next summer. Followed by Trae and Huerter in 2021. And Reddish, Hunter in 2022.
Collins will angle for a max contract. (I'm not sure he gets it.)
Trae will undoubtedly get a max contract extension offer.
After that...things get dicey.
NOTE: We're likely to have 2 more first round picks in summer 2020.
And we come full circle to why you're scouting point guards. You want to blow the team up before having to deal with *gasp* paying our players.
The cycle of tanking never ends for you does it, @jam?
I'm only half kidding. Obviously you want to spend prudently but, I mean, you gotta pay somebody at some point if you expect to have a winning team. These are good problems to have especially when we're used to overpaying guys to not win.
kg01 wrote:Oh Ms. Cleoliver, you are something else.
jayu70 wrote:kg01 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:
I agree that it's a good 3-man rotation.
But are the players willing to accept these roles long term?
Can we afford to pay huge rookie contract extensions to guys coming off the bench?
You have to take contract status into account for all these talented young players. Collins is up for a rookie contract extension next summer. Followed by Trae and Huerter in 2021. And Reddish, Hunter in 2022.
Collins will angle for a max contract. (I'm not sure he gets it.)
Trae will undoubtedly get a max contract extension offer.
After that...things get dicey.
NOTE: We're likely to have 2 more first round picks in summer 2020.
And we come full circle to why you're scouting point guards. You want to blow the team up before having to deal with *gasp* paying our players.
The cycle of tanking never ends for you does it, @jam?
I'm only half kidding. Obviously you want to spend prudently but, I mean, you gotta pay somebody at some point if you expect to have a winning team. These are good problems to have especially when we're used to overpaying guys to not win.
Maybe one of Huerter or Reddish slots in as the 'Manu' off the bench guy.
Maybe Hunter ends up being the 4 with JC at the 5.
Maybe one of Huerter/Reddish/Hunter becomes a SuperSub.
Maybe Reddish becomes the starting SF, with Hunter as the backup.
Maybe Huerter gets traded.
Maybe Cam doesn't 'break the NBA' per Supes.
Maybe Hunter gets traded if Reddish takes over as SF.
Lots of options and I'm looking forward to seeing it playout.
We won't know until these rookies play and we see how they fit.
kg01 wrote:And if SImmons comes available, it's because he's actually not as talented as you seem to think he is, Cleoliver.
Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:And if SImmons comes available, it's because he's actually not as talented as you seem to think he is, Cleoliver.
...or because he doesn't fit well with Embiid.
Or because he pushes his way out of town a la Anthony Davis.
kg01 wrote:Or because he chooses not to work on his game?
Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:Or because he chooses not to work on his game?
Admit it...you came back from that other place just because you miss me.Spoiler:
kg01 wrote:Even though I extended an invitation, somehow the idea of you showing your mugg there unnerves me. Why is that?
Maybe you've been off in the wilderness too long. Can you even fit into civilized society anymore?
Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:Even though I extended an invitation, somehow the idea of you showing your mugg there unnerves me. Why is that?
Maybe you've been off in the wilderness too long. Can you even fit into civilized society anymore?
Are we really calling that place civilized society? With supes, peoria and Sturt roaming around unchecked?
I'm probably better off just hanging out here on my own...Spoiler:
Jamaaliver wrote:^Not a bad idea. But Trav has consistently turned down trade opportunities of expirings at the trade deadline as he prioritizes cap flexibility more than modest draft assets.
Especially at this point, when we are currently stacked with young players on rookie deals and still have 2 first round picks next summer.
I'd think maintaining that $70+ million in projected cap space is the priority.
I won't be surprised if Bembry gets moved at some point this season...especially if we don't extend him the QO.
Bleacher ReportEverything to Know About the 2020 Draft's Potential Top Prospect
Only a select few NBA players who play predominantly at shooting guard possess Edwards' 6'5" size and 225-pound frame. He won't even turn 19 until after the 2020 draft. Explosive athleticism enhances his physical profile a notch further.
But credit gradual skill development for his rise and transformation from attacker and dunker to advanced shot-creator, three-level scorer and capable playmaker. His improved perimeter game has become a clear, notable takeaway that's strengthened his credibility as an elite NBA prospect.
Edwards' power and explosiveness regularly translate to easy baskets in transition. His open-floor ball-handling creates more opportunities at the rim, and he shows good control with both hands while dribbling at full speed. He doesn't need a straight-line path to finish on the break as he's capable of weaving through traffic with violent changes of direction.Spoiler:
An obvious threat to get downhill, he earns himself high-percentage layup and dunk attempts, usually by bouncing high off two feet, which is his preferred launch method. He can explode upward for a finish above the cylinder before putting a foot in the restricted area, allowing him to beat rim protectors to the spot:Spoiler:
His progression as a pull-up and step-back shooter has still been the primary way he's elevated his scoring. With a green light and budding confidence in his perimeter game, he can get carried away with low-percentage hero shots. Still more of a shot-maker who tends to lean on deeper dribble jumpers than a pure shooter, Edwards is a long shot to top the 35 percent mark from three as a freshman at Georgia or rookie in the NBA.
Flashes of playmaking have led to some optimism about Edwards' potential as an initiator and combo guard.
Heading into the 2019-20 season, no consensus No. 1 prospect has emerged.
Anthony could end up the safer choice for some, assuming he puts up monstrous numbers running the show for a top-ranked program. Edwards starts at No. 1 with can't-beat positional tools and athleticism, a level of skill that's already high but still rising and enormous room to improve based on his age and fixable weaknesses.
kg01 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:Or because he chooses not to work on his game?
Admit it...you came back from that other place just because you miss me.Spoiler:
Even though I extended an invitation, somehow the idea of you showing your mugg there unnerves me. Why is that?
Maybe you've been off in the wilderness too long. Can you even fit into civilized society anymore?
Jamaaliver wrote:TBF, I don't think Collins is going anywhere anytime soon. He's a perfect partner for Trae and has been nothing but a superb ambassador for this city and this franchise.
But if we're going to make the jump into the upper echelon of teams in the league, we likely need another elite offensive talent at the 4 or 5 spot.
jayu70 wrote:I think we need 'elite offensive talent' at the wing spot more so....and a serviceable on offense, elite defensive C.
Jamaaliver wrote:jayu70 wrote:I think we need 'elite offensive talent' at the wing spot more so....and a serviceable on offense, elite defensive C.
You're not wrong. But Travis just paid a King's Ransom to draft a wing player is decidedly NOT an 'elite offensive talent'.
