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Post#21 » by Spud2nique » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:49 pm

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You can now add Reddish and Hunter D to that scenario!!! :clap:

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Damn straight Jami.
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Post#22 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:52 pm

The 3 Hawks players facing the most pressure in 2019-20

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Trae Young
This one should be obvious. Before he was even drafted, Trae Young had been hyped as the next Stephen Curry. Comparisons to the Golden State Warriors star might be early, but Young showed the NBA that he is capable of hitting the deep three and dishing out eye-popping assists, both Curry trademarks.

Even after a terrible start to his season, Young finished the campaign averaging 19.1 points, 8.1 assists, and 3.7 boards per game. He shot 41.8 percent from the field and 32.4 percent from three. Shooting below NBA average from distance will not cut it for Young or the Hawks.

Expect to see his three-point numbers rise dramatically, even while the degree of difficulty on his shots remains the same. As the current face of the Atlanta Hawks franchise, Young has got a ton of weight on his shoulders at only 20 years old.

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Cam Reddish

Cam Reddish was projected to be a top-five pick before his freshman season at Duke. However, he was greatly overshadowed by the play of Blue Devil teammates...and dropped to number 10 in the 2019 draft where the Hawks selected him. Reddish is an NBA ready wing who has the talent to put up numbers for the Hawks immediately. In his only year at Duke, he averaged 13.5 points and 1.6 steals per game but shot only 33.3 percent from range.

Like Young, he should only improve off that number. Atlanta will expect him to space the floor for Young and John Collins, and consistently knock down the open trey. We’ll have to wait and see if Cam Reddish can actually reach the towering ceiling many pundits and scouts have given him.

De’Andre Hunter

Any time a player is selected in the top five of any draft, there is always pressure to prove their value, and fast. Any player selected in the top five is expected to make an immediate impact, and De’Andre Hunter falls in this category.

Hunter is coming off an NCAA championship with Virginia and a season in which he averaged 15.2 points, 5.1 rebounds, and 2.0 assists while shooting 52 percent from the floor. Hunter is expected to be a plus defender with some range, and will likely start for the Hawks in his rookie season.

With Trae Young still being a defensive liability, Hunter should help Atlanta shore up their perimeter defense, and whatever offense he brings will be an added bonus. No player wants to be called a bust, and Hunter will have to work hard to avoid the dreaded label.
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Post#23 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:56 pm

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Post#24 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:42 am

Can Trae Young and Co. make yet another leap—and cause some chaos in the East?

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The main source of any Hawks optimism has to be Trae Young. The overall culture and system that GM Travis Schlenk and head coach Lloyd Pierce have instituted is the team’s foundation, sure, but any good building needs a cornerstone. It’s remarkable that we’re only a year removed from Young’s disappointing summer league performance and slow regular-season start, and we’re already christening him as the key figure on an ascending team. But that’s how much progress Young made in the latter half of the season, when he averaged nearly 25 points and 10 assists per game.

When I visited Atlanta in March to talk to Young about his passing, his magnetism became clear. Teammates raved about him. Members of the organization will tell you this was part of the plan, that they drafted Young over Doncic because the overall fit was more to their liking. And it’s clear the team is outlining its future with Young as its compass. Alongside Young is John Collins, who is one of the more exciting rim runners in the game. He averaged nearly 20-10 a game last season while also making 34.8 percent of his 3s. The duo’s synergy is already advanced, as is their connection with Kevin Huerter, who is the Klay Thompson to Young’s Stephen Curry. (Huerter’s true shooting percentage and effective field goal percentage are nearly identical to the numbers Thompson put up in his rookie season).

The Hawks also used this year’s draft to add De’Andre Hunter (a versatile, defensive-minded wing) and a high-upside talent in Cam Reddish to the aforementioned trio. Hunter has the potential to act as a Swiss-army knife and complement the rest of the roster. Reddish is more raw, but has a higher ceiling with his athleticism. Much like Alex Len last season, Reddish will benefit tremendously from playing alongside Young. Both rookies could contribute this season, but especially Hunter, who will cover for the team’s lack of size in the backcourt and has a good chance to be an elite defender on the wings.
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Post#25 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:58 pm

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Post#26 » by graymule » Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:55 pm

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Lloyd Pierce sees the big picture. Hawks young core is set to be a big surprise to some of the "experts" who are sure that the Atlanta team is going nowhere. Alex Len, our starting center, was a high draft pick who improved a lot last season. He is still young. His backup is Damian Jones, who is also young and rookie Bruno Fernando. Dedmon is gone. Youth will prevail here.

Youth ever where you look. I bet that Vince Carter feels young, playing with all these Hawks !!

October 7th is slowly coming into view. Then we can see what LP is excited about. Fans who are in the know are excited too !
Hard core Hawk fans may be the only ones who believe. Guess this young Hawk roster will just have to show them !!

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Post#27 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:17 pm

Collins and Trae getting more love as top 25 players under 25:

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25. Deandre Ayton
24. Justise Winslow
23. Bam Adebayo
22. Domantas Sabonis
21. Aaron Gordon
20. Mitchell Robinson
19. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
18. John Collins

13. Trae Young

Behind an exciting young core, the Hawks could be primed for a leap in 2020. What they get from John Collins could determine just how far they go.

When Trae Young tosses lobs to his teammates, he has a habit of leaving his feet just as the recipient of the pass sends the ball through the rim. The two were made to complement one another on offense and have forged a dynamic and synergistic pick-and-roll partnership with one another. Collins ranked among the most efficient pick-and-roll finishers in the NBA last season, and the force and flair with which he finishes is nearly as demoralizing as the points themselves.
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Post#29 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:04 pm

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The Hawks have as much young talent as any team in the Eastern Conference and -- optimists believe -- the league at large. Trae Young rebounded over the season’s second half to consistently exhibit shotmaking and playmaking talent reserved for truly elite ball handlers. Young, already one of the best passers in the league, seems poised to cement himself this season as the driving force behind an above-average offense for years and years to come.

John Collins is one of the league’s most explosive athletes with a burgeoning set of overall skills and rapidly developing 3-point range...Few outside Atlanta paid proper attention to Kevin Huerter’s rookie campaign, one in which he flashed rare prowess as a shooter – spotting up, sprinting around screens, and even off the dribble. He’s a better athlete than advertised coming out of Maryland...

Is rookie De’Andre Hunter, despite troublingly low rates of blocks and steals at Virginia, the defensive linchpin general manager Travis Schlenk believes? Will fellow lottery pick Cam Reddish even break into the rotation this season?
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Post#30 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:55 pm

I guess, in a way, you can say LP is a part of our 'Young core' as well:

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Post#31 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:33 pm

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And he’s not going to put any extra pressure on his players.
‘Expectation’ is a word that won’t come out of my mouth,” Pierce said. “This is a low-pressure environment that our players will have. They get enough expectations from social media and from family and from friends and from everyone else. That’s not what this is about. My job is to put them in a position to succeed. My job is to challenge them to be more and to be better. But expectations, I don’t want to undervalue our guys either. I don’t want to say ‘X’ and they go over that.” 

It’s tough having to understand that, especially me being such a competitor and wanting to win every game right away,” Young said. “It’s the truth. You have to understand that this is a rebuilding process, but at the same time you want to be great, you want to win as much as you can. Just because you say it’s a rebuilding process doesn’t mean losing is acceptable, because it’s not. I’m definitely not taking that type of approach and I’m trying to win as many games as possible.”

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Post#34 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:22 pm

14 seems a bit low for Trae, but it's seems a consensus that we have two top young players for the foreseeable future.

That's light years ahead of where we were projected just a year ago. :thumbsup:

Top 25 under 25: Ranking the NBA's best young players entering the 2019-20 campaign

14. Trae Young | Atlanta Hawks | PG

Young is already one of the most creative passers on the planet, and the Hawks have empowered him to play with freedom. I love watching him play, but I'm not sure how to properly evaluate a player who is so obviously helpful on offense and so obviously harmful on defense. One thing he has going for him, though: Atlanta has stacked the roster with long, versatile, athletic players around him. (Age on opening night: 21)


18. John Collins | Atlanta Hawks | PF

Last season, Collins getting healthy coincided with the Hawks getting decent. He made a monster leap from his rookie season, becoming an average 3-point shooter out of absolutely nowhere and establishing himself as one of the league's premier rollers and rebounders. Collins wants to do everything, though -- shooting off the dribble, facilitating for others, posting up, etc. -- and Atlanta should let him try, as long as he continues to make strides on the other end. (Age on opening night: 22)
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