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I like our chances...hahaJamaaliver wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Your offer doesn't seem very reasonable considering Detroit seems desperate to move him. Reddish and our Brooklyn pick? I don't believe our front office includes Reddish.DetroitPistons wrote:No Reddish. No Deal. I hope the Pistons front office feels the same way. I would love to resign him for 20mil if that is all the market is offering.
Drum will receive more than 20m per season this off-season.
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DetroitPistons wrote:HMFFL wrote:Your offer doesn't seem very reasonable considering Detroit seems desperate to move him. Reddish and our Brooklyn pick? I don't believe our front office includes Reddish.DetroitPistons wrote:No Reddish. No Deal. I hope the Pistons front office feels the same way. I would love to resign him for 20mil if that is all the market is offering.
Drum will receive more than 20m per season this off-season.
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We are not desperate at all. As I said before, he is plenty young enough to be part of a rebuild. We would probably be shopping Griffin right now instead but he has been crippled this year. One source said he believes Drummond will resign between 20 and 25 mil per year. Like I said, most of your fears about Drummond are not true.
Worst_to_First wrote:Do you guys think that the rumors that have floated on Drummond or Steven Adams in any way indicate that the Hawks are not that high at all with Wiseman in the upcoming draft?
Worst_to_First wrote:Do you guys think that the rumors that have floated on Drummond or Steven Adams in any way indicate that the Hawks are not that high at all with Wiseman in the upcoming draft?
DetroitPistons wrote:HMFFL wrote:Your offer doesn't seem very reasonable considering Detroit seems desperate to move him. Reddish and our Brooklyn pick? I don't believe our front office includes Reddish.DetroitPistons wrote:No Reddish. No Deal. I hope the Pistons front office feels the same way. I would love to resign him for 20mil if that is all the market is offering.
Drum will receive more than 20m per season this off-season.
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We are not desperate at all. As I said before, he is plenty young enough to be part of a rebuild. We would probably be shopping Griffin right now instead but he has been crippled this year. One source said he believes Drummond will resign between 20 and 25 mil per year. Like I said, most of your fears about Drummond are not true.
An NBA executive told The Athletic that he believes a trade for Drummond doesn’t make much sense for the Hawks and smells like panic from the ownership group in an attempt to not finish with the league’s worst record, which is where Atlanta sits right now, and to try to eliminate some of the stink with the way this season has started.
Before the season began, owner Tony Ressler spoke with a few reporters about the state of the franchise and how this past offseason was as peaceful as it could have been because he had learned from some of his previous mistakes while in charge of the team, like bringing in Dwight Howard. But one quote that was telling with the Hawks now involved with Drummond is how fans are inherently impatient while waiting for success.
“I haven’t met a fan who is less patient than me,” Ressler said in October. “Now, I’m also trying to take the advice of people. I do think I understand basketball and understand the NBA, but building a team and trying to build a contender and being patient in the process is not my forte, and I am desperately trying — and I think successfully — listening to others who are better at it than I am.”
A trade for Drummond would be Ressler and the Hawks’ front office exhibiting impatience. If the Hawks really wanted him, they have the cap space to offer him a max contract this summer after Drummond declines his $28.6 million player option for next season, which is expected to happen. In theory, the Hawks present one of the best situations Drummond could find himself in next season because of the money they could offer, and he’d have the ability to thrive in the pick-and-roll with Trae Young, who’s one of the NBA’s best passers. Because of the $70-plus million in cap space the Hawks are projected to have this summer, Drummond even could recommend another free agent he would want to play with to the front office to sweeten the deal.
The Hawks have the expiring contracts to offer the Pistons to match Drummond’s salary in a trade. Chandler Parsons’ $25 million salary alone would satisfy the money Atlanta would need to send Detroit in exchange for Drummond’s $27 million salary. Brooklyn’s lottery-protected first-round pick, which Atlanta owns, likely would be the main asset attached to Parsons. The Hawks would have to have some verbal agreement with Drummond and his representation in place that he will re-sign with the team this summer if assets like a first-round pick are going to be traded for a half-season of his services.
jayu70 wrote:...
“I haven’t met a fan who is less patient than me,” Ressler said in October. “Now, I’m also trying to take the advice of people. I do think I understand basketball and understand the NBA, but building a team and trying to build a contender and being patient in the process is not my forte, and I am desperately trying — and I think successfully — listening to others who are better at it than I am.”
...The Hawks would have to have some verbal agreement with Drummond and his representation in place that he will re-sign with the team this summer if assets like a first-round pick are going to be traded for a half-season of his services.[/b]
Yet while Detroit’s talks with Atlanta regarding Drummond were revealed by ESPN last week, a source with knowledge of the talks downplayed the prospect of that deal happening. While Atlanta’s brutal season (8-30) has added significant pressure to bolster the roster and give young star Trae Young more help, the Hawks, per a second source, could have landed Drummond already if they were willing to include a first-round pick in the deal.
– via Sam Amick @ The Athletic
jayu70 wrote:Yet while Detroit’s talks with Atlanta regarding Drummond were revealed by ESPN last week, a source with knowledge of the talks downplayed the prospect of that deal happening. While Atlanta’s brutal season (8-30) has added significant pressure to bolster the roster and give young star Trae Young more help, the Hawks, per a second source, could have landed Drummond already if they were willing to include a first-round pick in the deal.
– via Sam Amick @ The Athletic
And I'm OK with this. He's a FA.
The last time the Hawks traded a player and a 1st for a FA....he left.....looking at you Danny Manning. sigh!
Shooter Says wrote:jayu70 wrote:Yet while Detroit’s talks with Atlanta regarding Drummond were revealed by ESPN last week, a source with knowledge of the talks downplayed the prospect of that deal happening. While Atlanta’s brutal season (8-30) has added significant pressure to bolster the roster and give young star Trae Young more help, the Hawks, per a second source, could have landed Drummond already if they were willing to include a first-round pick in the deal.
– via Sam Amick @ The Athletic
And I'm OK with this. He's a FA.
The last time the Hawks traded a player and a 1st for a FA....he left.....looking at you Danny Manning. sigh!
I would have liked to of seen his fit with our core for a few months, but if they were asking for too much, no thank you. I bet Detroit gets more desperate closer to the deadline when they realize other teams can't offer them the expirings like we can and potential to also take on a contract such as Snell. I don't think this is over.
kg01 wrote:Shooter Says wrote:jayu70 wrote:And I'm OK with this. He's a FA.
The last time the Hawks traded a player and a 1st for a FA....he left.....looking at you Danny Manning. sigh!
I would have liked to of seen his fit with our core for a few months, but if they were asking for too much, no thank you. I bet Detroit gets more desperate closer to the deadline when they realize other teams can't offer them the expirings like we can and potential to also take on a contract such as Snell. I don't think this is over.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them come back at the last minute, but it won't change things. We have money but the teams aren't really a good trade-fit. Drummond is likely to opt out anyway so it's not like DET needs to move him to save money. We can just wait and take a stab at him via free agency so no need for us to (a) take on something like Smell or (b) send out any meaningful asset to get him.
