Joel Embiid

[atlantabbq99]

How hard should the Hawks go after Joel Embiid?

It's all just rumors now, I don't how disappointed the Sixers' management is with Embiid, but how much would you offer the Sixers for Embiid?

[myrak433]

not sure we have a good offer without including Trae.... and that is a non-starter for me.

[Jamaaliver]

Yes, we absolutely should be making calls to gauge the availability of Embiid. He and Trae would complement each other brilliantly on both ends of the court.

Yes, we likely have enough to at least make a competitive offer. But it'd likely cost us Collins, Capela, the #6 pick, one of our 3 young wings, and a future 1st round pick. And we'd undoubtedly have to include a third team. (Portland, Washington, Orlando, Denver)

Is that worth it?

My concerns would be Embiid's injury history and his attitude...he is a troll and a brat. That could be problematic when building a cohesive locker room.

[Spud2nique]

Lumbering big with future injuries. Let’s keep building and wait for Giannis.

[saloonyk8]

For starters I think Brown just got fired so they probably won't trade either of those two players right now.

With that said I would trade anyone but Cam, JC and Trae and multiple picks but that won't nearly be enough.

I think we'd have to include JC for sure along with 6, another pick, Huerter and Hunter and I'm not sure what we'd have left would be enough to contend long term even if Embiid healthy

[saloonyk8]

My best offer would be Collins, 6, future pick, Reddish but I don't think they would do that either

[Jamaaliver]

My best offer would be Collins, 6, future pick, Reddish but I don't think they would do that either

Collins, #6 and D Hunter could net CJ McCollum.

Capela, CJ McCollum, our 2021 draft pick and Huerter could get us in conversation for Embiid.

Again...we'd need to include a 3rd team and get really creative.

[Spud2nique]

My best offer would be Collins, 6, future pick, Reddish but I don't think they would do that either

Collins, #6 and D Hunter could net CJ McCollum.

Capela, CJ McCollum, our 2021 draft pick and Huerter could get us in conversation for Embiid.

Again...we'd need to include a 3rd team and get really creative.

Embiid is a lumbering Luka. Both have bodies that are built for breaking down. No to Embiid. He should stay on Twitter.

[jayu70]

My best offer would be Collins, 6, future pick, Reddish but I don't think they would do that either

Collins, #6 and D Hunter could net CJ McCollum.

Capela, CJ McCollum, our 2021 draft pick and Huerter could get us in conversation for Embiid.

Again...we'd need to include a 3rd team and get really creative.

That is an overpay for McCullum.
So we end up with Trae, Reddish and Embiid. No way.

[atlantabbq99]

I would do, #6, Collins, Cap, 2021 pick, for Embiid and a bad contract like Horford or Harris.

I don't know if its a fair offer, but if you stack the other offers from the other teams, I think a Hawks' package would be at the top of the list.

[HMFFL]

My best offer would be Collins, 6, future pick, Reddish but I don't think they would do that either

Would he actually cost that much to acquire?


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[saloonyk8]

I just don't know what a team with just Trae and Embiid could actually do... Is that a championship combo, doubt it.

That's why I don't think we should really pursue Embiid and lose Collins and Reddish.

[HMFFL]

My best offer would be Collins, 6, future pick, Reddish but I don't think they would do that either

Collins, #6 and D Hunter could net CJ McCollum.

Capela, CJ McCollum, our 2021 draft pick and Huerter could get us in conversation for Embiid.

Again...we'd need to include a 3rd team and get really creative.

CJ McCollum is a big no-no for me unless he's moved like you're suggesting. I basically don't want anything to do with him and Portland should so what it takes to relieve the selves of his contract.

2020-21: $29,354,152
2021-22: $30,864,198
2022-23: $33,333,333
2023-24: $35,802,469

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[saloonyk8]

Ok so BEST case scenario, no one wants to take on big money this offseason, especially with the huge FA class the next year coming up and Sixers want to dump Horford contract along with Embiid:

Collins/#6/Capela/Dedmon and one of Huerter/Hunter

You could talk me into a team with Horford, Embiid, Trae, Reddish, and one of Hunter/Huerter

Can you win it all with that? Maybe right? Squint a little?

[Jamaaliver]

My best offer would be Collins, 6, future pick, Reddish but I don't think they would do that either

Collins, #6 and D Hunter could net CJ McCollum.

Capela, CJ McCollum, our 2021 draft pick and Huerter could get us in conversation for Embiid.

Again...we'd need to include a 3rd team and get really creative.

That is an overpay for McCollum.

No way.

probably is an overpay. We can ask for more in return...maybe include their 2020 1st rounder and Zach Collins coming back here...and ask for Josh Richardson to be included in the deal from Philly.

I truly believe that Embiid and Trae are elite young talents capable of contending for titles...not just the playoffs.

NOTE: A team with Trae and Embiid in their primes is more likely to attract top Free Agents in summer 2021.

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Fwiw.




Of course, the point is well-taken that LP pretty much has to say PHI should keep both... otherwise, he'd find out what tampering fines are going for this year, right?

[Jamaaliver]

Offseason Trades for NBA Lottery Teams

Atlanta Goes All-In for Embiid

Atlanta Hawks receive: Joel Embiid

Philadelphia 76ers receive: Clint Capela, Kevin Huerter, De'Andre Hunter, 2020 No. 6 pick and 2022 first-round pick (top-three protected)

To be clear, this runs completely counter to the direction Sixers general manager Elton Brand said he wants to go, but he could soon discover this roster is broken beyond repair. It's easy to say the Sixers should keep Simmons and Embiid together and just fix the supporting cast around them. It's far more difficult to bring those improvements to light. Tobias Harris and Al Horford are borderline untradeable on their colossal contracts. Josh Richardson might have modest trade value, but he's not landing a difference-maker.
The Sixers might need to sacrifice one star to save themselves. That's the only way they're replenishing the cupboards, which this deal definitely does. Capela is the athletic rim-runner Simmons needs at his side, as the two could do damage in transition and pick-and-rolls. Huerter steps into the spot-up sniper role JJ Redick used to fill. Hunter adds another three-and-D option. The picks either lead to high-upside prospects or facilitate another trade.

The Hawks, meanwhile, find perhaps the best accelerator on the market. Embiid is this era's Hakeem Olajuwon, a dream-shaking 7-footer with elite paint protection and enough of an outside shot to keep defenses honest. Put Embiid with Young, and Atlanta's offense has a skyscraper's ceiling. Put John Collins alongside them, and that ceiling jumps a few more stories.
Simmons gets his own roster of open-court athletes, and Embiid finds an offensive co-star who has the gravitational pull to keep defenders away. The Sixers and Hawks can both come out ahead.

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[HMFFL]

^
I will pass if it meas we give up all of that for him.
I don't see why would we would need to anyway. I don't expect him to be free by any means but giving up all of our young talent expect for Can doesn't make much sense to me.



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[High 5]

I'm normally very hesitant to give up young talent and depth, but that would be a hard deal to pass up (I think Philly probably declines). Trae and Embiid would be arguably the deadliest duo in the league and we'd still have JC and Cam.

[myrak433]

I feel that if we could get Embiid in a trade and still have Trea and Cam....... I would pull the trigger. You could build a team around those two. Two star players is hard to get especially for the Hawks.... have we ever had two star players????